If we sign a solid FA offensive lineman, will you be satsified with this offseason?

[CF74]

I would feel better. If we can get Brandon Moore and/or Eric Winston, that would be great.

Or Tyson Clabo and we're set for a possible run...

 

[Eskimo]

I'd really like Brandon Moore myself.

I have more belief that Parnell is ready to step up than anyone else on the interior.

I see DL is a fairly big need for one developmental player and I don't have much faith that Wilbur can convert to a DE.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I am fine with the players selected regardless but definitely would have handled this draft with great urgency with respect to OL/DL and with a higher priority on a ready to plug in S.

I do think Travis and the new offensive weapons (TE,WR,RB) will help Romo, especially if they sign a RT in free agency.

I do think Webb could be a nice nickel cb to eventually replace Scandrick and JJ Wilcox may have promise in the future.

However, we still need OL/DL help and the S position still is a concern in terms of the here and now.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

The team went with mostly what they thought was BPA on their board, and for that alone I'm happy. Would I have liked to pick up a DL who can sit on the pine and develop, sure, but this team has several other needs which needed to be addressed also.

I would like to see a vet FA OL brought in, but I will say starting 2 young first rounders on the OL sets us up pretty well for the future. We can't solve everything with one draft, as the need at DL shows, but all we can do is hope the vets there can last one more year til we can give the position the attention it deserves next offseason. Even at that point, I don't want us reaching for every DL on the board, but more attention will be given at that time as one thing this team has going for it is it has been able to find DL later in the draft, so to be honest I'm not as worried about them finding DL cause they have actually had success finding them.

These last 4 drafts have been pretty good overall, but you can't expect to fix everything that is wrong with the team in that frame of time. We are alot closer now than we were before this draft, and thats one reason for hope.

 

[CyberB0b]

Assuming Freddy isn't a bust, yes

 

[Deep_Freeze]

No. In a draft rich with linemen, we came away with a total of 1 player while using 2 picks in the secondary.

That's bad for next year but even worse for the future as "the real strength of this team" the DL declines into the OL debacle status.

It was another offseason of not prioritizing the line of scrimmage in a real way. No Band-Aid FA is going to change that.

The 1 player you speak of was a our first rounder, someone who can start there for a decade. The 2 picks in the secondary were later round picks, one being safety which was an absolute need and the other a CB to replace Jenkins. Guess we should be mad that they picked a RB to replace Felix....not.

You have said before that you want BPA, I just don't understand how you can be dissatisfied with this draft. Would be nice to have added another DL somewhere, especially with that 2nd round pick, but they must've had that TE pretty high on their board. If that TE is on the bench and we aren't using 2 TE sets, I agree it would've been nicer to have that extra DL sitting on the bench instead of a TE sitting on the bench.....but the point is if we do go to 2 TE sets, that TE will get more snaps than that DL anyway.

It's bout time we stop trying to find stuff to complain about, and actually look at the positive. We have 2 first rounders on our OL now, that should be something that makes you in particular happy as most of the good OLs in the league have a similar number.

 

[arglebargle]

We really shouldn't call for the team to pick the best player available by their board, and then complain because they didn't draft for need.

Though they obviously did draft for need in the 1st.

I did notice that a lot of decent OL and DL prospects went of the boards in each round, just before the Cowboys picked.

If they've got negotiations already going with some of the free agent vet olineman, then that makes moves to the better. We'll probably know in a few days.

 

[bleedin' blue]

Yes

 

[FLcowboy]

Me, I would want one more solid OL and one more solid DL and then I would be happy..

Preferably a RT and a solid guy who can flex on Dline.

A perfect fix in my opinion. I'm concerned Crawford isn't that guy.

 

[BAZ]

Me, I would want one more solid OL and one more solid DL and then I would be happy..

Preferably a RT and a solid guy who can flex on Dline.

This.

 

[boardn10]

It will help, but the lack of attention to the defensive side of the trenches is bothering. It's no secret that the integral cog in Monte's scheme is a penetrating 3 technique DT. I don't see that guy on the roster. That's scary. But, these guys know a hell of a lot more about it than I do so, at this point, I'll just have to concede that they see something I don't that they can work with.

Yep, I am really confused. We could have grabbed a stud DT at 18 but we didn'r. Why the heck not? Games are won and lost in the trenches and we are weak on both sides of the line. We still need another OT and two Guards, and we need better Defensive linemen. We can win in the trenches at this point.
Romo is going to get killed again this year.
Tell me I am wrong, please.

What about Arkin, Parnell and Leary? Jones said he is excited about these yound Offensive linemen.

 

[burmafrd]

I get the feeling by the beginning of the third round all the linemen the boys really liked were gone.

 

[cowboysooner]

We have too many moving parts within our schemes. We go from 3-4 to 4-3, while trying to fix an offensive line with zone based principals but we seem to be getting man blockers (Fredrick, hopefully Clabo) and we are going to a primarily 2 tight offense which means 3 legitimate tight ends.

I see why they were desperately desperate to trade down- they needed 5 players 2 ol, a dt, at least 1 safety, a tight end, and a legitimate @2 wide out.

 

[NJ22]

We needed a G, a Center AND a Right tackle. So signing a tackle will leave us still with the worst pair of guards in the league. Maybe Leary can beat out one of them, but we still need another one.

Thoughts?

 

[Deep_Freeze]

We have too many moving parts within our schemes. We go from 3-4 to 4-3, while trying to fix an offensive line with zone based principals but we seem to be getting man blockers (Fredrick, hopefully Clabo) and we are going to a primarily 2 tight offense which means 3 legitimate tight ends.

I see why they were desperately desperate to trade down- they needed 5 players 2 ol, a dt, at least 1 safety, a tight end, and a legitimate @2 wide out.

Our needs were high, and they weren't all going to be met in this draft. You can add a SLB to that list, and really thats the reason why I kept saying before the draft that we could draft any position cause we need them all whether its money or production decline in a position grouping.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

We needed a G, a Center AND a Right tackle. So signing a tackle will leave us still with the worst pair of guards in the league. Maybe Leary can beat out one of them, but we still need another one.

Yup I'd really try to get both Moore & Clabo on 2 year deals for $3 mil a season as stop gaps & solid players. If we went into 2013, with Smith-?-Frederick-Moore-Clabo I would be very happy..

 

[CyberB0b]

There are too many holes to patch in 1 season. I think some of you guys have unrealistic expectations for draft picks.

 

[cowboysooner]

Our needs were high, and they weren't all going to be met in this draft. You can add a SLB to that list, and really thats the reason why I kept saying before the draft that we could draft any position cause we need them all whether its money or production decline in a position grouping.

I think we got decent linebacker depth with the Magee and Holloman kids where we got them. I'd have LOVED AJ Klein in the 5th but we also needed the running back.

It was a really interesting draft. Early on everybody was drafting offensive tackles because they are pretty exceptional and safe regardless of need, because Jacksonville needs pass rush worse than a guy that will likely play right tackle for them the first year and Eugene Monroe is one of the 5 best players on that putrid roster. KC has a top 10-12 LT but don't want to pay him because he has a bad back. The Eagles needed an offensive lineman that can move and get out in space on tunnel screens. Need met value for them but Star Louteleileileilei is a better player today.


Honestly, if Warmack gets past Tennessee, I think he gets all the way to Dallas. Then we probably are trying to run a 2 tight end offense without any receiving tight end depth.

If we get 61 instead of 74, do we take Bennie Logan and his 34 inch arms and 4 years of solid play as a 1 technique for us? I think we do but perhaps not.

I wonder if Frederick was highest on our board at 31 or if Ertz and Escobar were really higher, but there were 2 of them then no interior linemen for a round or two.

I think the Jets fouled up the plan when they took Winters at 72. I think Dallas hoped he would fall to 74 or 80.

Escobar, Williams and Webb seemed to be bpa picks and Frederick was definitely need and dearth of the position.

It seemed that the plan going in was to get 1 or 2 interior olinemen and get a free agent right tackle.

I have NO EARTHLY idea why we did not draft Damontre Moore. That was the best risk on the board. 80th pick for a guy that may be very good rusher with production. That was the chance to turn this to an A+ draft.

I will say our 4th, 5th and 6th rounders were very good and frankly exceptional by Cowboys standards. From the 5th round on I don't care what position you take, if you get a player you have done well and I'm pretty sure Randall is a player and Holloman looks promising as well. The Webb kid is athletic, tore up the combine, has good film at the position you are asking him to play and played very well in the all star games. Those are halmarks of a small school guy that succeeds. He was pushed down by a later starting run on corners and many good ones in the draft.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

Thoughts?

3 new linemen would have been ideal but given the cap hell they've dug themselves into I suppose two new linemen is good enough. Just make sure the FA isn't another scrub out of the bargain bin.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I think we got decent linebacker depth with the Magee and Holloman kids where we got them. I'd have LOVED AJ Klein in the 5th but we also needed the running back.

It was a really interesting draft. Early on everybody was drafting offensive tackles because they are pretty exceptional and safe regardless of need, because Jacksonville needs pass rush worse than a guy that will likely play right tackle for them the first year and Eugene Monroe is one of the 5 best players on that putrid roster. KC has a top 10-12 LT but don't want to pay him because he has a bad back. The Eagles needed an offensive lineman that can move and get out in space on tunnel screens. Need met value for them but Star Louteleileileilei is a better player today.


Honestly, if Warmack gets past Tennessee, I think he gets all the way to Dallas. Then we probably are trying to run a 2 tight end offense without any receiving tight end depth.

If we get 61 instead of 74, do we take Bennie Logan and his 34 inch arms and 4 years of solid play as a 1 technique for us? I think we do but perhaps not.

I wonder if Frederick was highest on our board at 31 or if Ertz and Escobar were really higher, but there were 2 of them then no interior linemen for a round or two.

I think the Jets fouled up the plan when they took Winters at 72. I think Dallas hoped he would fall to 74 or 80.

Escobar, Williams and Webb seemed to be bpa picks and Frederick was definitely need and dearth of the position.

It seemed that the plan going in was to get 1 or 2 interior olinemen and get a free agent right tackle.

I have NO EARTHLY idea why we did not draft Damontre Moore. That was the best risk on the board. 80th pick for a guy that may be very good rusher with production. That was the chance to turn this to an A+ draft.

I will say our 4th, 5th and 6th rounders were very good and frankly exceptional by Cowboys standards. From the 5th round on I don't care what position you take, if you get a player you have done well and I'm pretty sure Randall is a player and Holloman looks promising as well. The Webb kid is athletic, tore up the combine, has good film at the position you are asking him to play and played very well in the all star games. Those are halmarks of a small school guy that succeeds. He was pushed down by a later starting run on corners and many good ones in the draft.

Alot of interesting points there, I'm not in love with the draft, obviously I don't think anyone was asking for a TE in the 2nd round, but if they are actually going to run the 2 TE sets now then that pick is warranted.

Now seeing their intentions, its obvious that they would've taken Cooper or Warmack if available, of course that didn't happen. All we could do in the draft is go by the board and not need, and it looks like we did a pretty good job of that. Now Moore, thats a good point and would've made sense at that point in the draft but the problem is they did needed a safety at that point and with Wilcox, he could be a starter very soon (not saying he will) while Moore would have alot of pine time ahead of him (also don't know how Moore graded out in comparison to Wilcox for them).

I just really think the DL will be in focus more next offseason (probably with that 1st rounder), and they will try to make it by for a year with the old guys right now.