If you had it to do all over with Romo and Dak in 2016

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yeah, not reading all that. The kid was 13-2 before the glorified preseason finale and had beaten the Pack at Lambeau the very same season. The rook could hang and did. If the defense doesn't give up 34 when their season average was 19, we win.

Facts

 

[MarcusRock]

Facts

Can't beat 'em. That's why there's the attempt to cloud them with haze while not acknowledging them.

 

[Hennessy_King]

It's hilarious that ppl could watch Romo play for 10 years and be confident he would win a SB. If he couldn't do it in 07 or 14 it was never going to happen. Glad they stayed with Dak

 

[DallasEast]

I disagree. Jerry is loyal to a fault. He just gave Romo that extension…..if it was all on him he would’ve stuck with Romo.

Jones gave Romo an extension because he was his franchise quarterback. Jones drafted Prescott and lit the league on fire in his very first two months in the league. In that short span of time, Prescott became his new franchise quarterback in his eyes.

Jones has a history of signing off on questionable contracts. However, there was zero reason for him to keep a franchise quarterback caliber contract in play when he had a rookie quarterback already on the roster performing as well as he expected of his predecessor.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jones gave Romo an extension because he was his franchise quarterback. Jones drafted Prescott and lit the league on fire in his very first two months in the league. In that short span of time, Prescott became his new franchise quarterback in his eyes.

Jones has a history of signing off on questionable contracts. However, there was zero reason for him to keep a franchise quarterback caliber contract in play when he had a rookie quarterback already on the roster performing as well as he expected of his predecessor.

Yeah I just disagree there. Every week we were told Romo was coming back and he never did because in their mind the rookie QB would struggle and they'd just slide him back in. The plan was for Romo to always get his job back because there was no way the Cowboys or Dak could sustain the play they did. That time just never came and the decision was made for them. There was no way to justify sitting Dak for Romo. Even Jerry couldn't argue against it but we know Jerry loved Romo like a son and loves his players to a fault at times.

 

[nobody]

It's hilarious that ppl could watch Romo play for 10 years and be confident he would win a SB. If he couldn't do it in 07 or 14 it was never going to happen. Glad they stayed with Dak

It's hilarious that you have such faith in Dak after his dismal performance in the playoffs against the 49ers. Oh wait, it takes a team to win? huh. If the 07 and 14 teams had actually had a defense that could make a stop then maybe Romo might have done better too. Dak has the same struggles Romo did. The team failed to perform when it mattered most.

 

[DandyDon52]

I don’t believe Romo in 2016 was as good as Romo in 2014.

probably right, in 14 romo played the whole season, which does help, and he had the strong run game with murray, and they ran more that year than any year since.
His 3rd down yds to gain were much easier that season, and less passing all helped him that year.

But after being out and having plenty of time to heal up, and his job threatened by dak, I think he would have actually played better had they played him last 2-3 games
of season, and the play offs, than he ever played before.
It is all speculation either way, we didnt get a chance to find out. But he did look sharp when he played in that philly game.

I think mentally he was peaking , and add to that the threat of losing his starting role, gave him more motivation than he had had since 07.

one reason dak isnt better than he is right now, is there is no threat to his job, none at all.

 

[DandyDon52]

Yeah I just disagree there. Every week we were told Romo was coming back and he never did because in their mind the rookie QB would struggle and they'd just slide him back in. The plan was for Romo to always get his job back because there was no way the Cowboys or Dak could sustain the play they did. That time just never came and the decision was made for them. There was no way to justify sitting Dak for Romo. Even Jerry couldn't argue against it but we know Jerry loved Romo like a son and loves his players to a fault at times.

Well things they didnt consider was , no rookie has ever won a SB, guess they thought that didnt apply to them and dak lol.
And that with a strong run game , good OL, that maybe romo could do as well and probably better than dak, especially in the playoffs.
They just looked at the wins, and listened to the locker room talk too much.

 

[jterrell]

Romo haters are glad zeke was drafted. IF not for Zeke....Dak would not have had near the success. Rookie: 1600+ rushing yards, 11 yards per rec. (those are 1st downs!), and very solid pass protection says so.

Romo would have been put back in.

Unlike previous injuries...Dak allowed Tony to get fully healthy before playing again....Tony often played hurt...and people call him lazy? Aloof?

His last drive showed what a fully healthy Romo is capable of.....but we had to protect Dak's fragile ego and not upset his "lucky streak". Superstition....crazy way to run and NFL team. Or any business for that matter.

Once Romo's team deteriorated....we see the true results of Dak's capabilities. It's not terrible....but it isn't very special either.

Look man posting stupid stuff just gets you put on ignore and thats where we are going here pretty quick.
Nothing in my post was anything about your Tony Romo fetish.
Romo had 12 NFL seasons in Dallas before Dak was ever drafted. His career ending was due to health and health alone.
He was injured and played 4 games in 2015, Came into 2016 and was injured in camp forcing Dallas to pivot to Dak and get him up to speed on the fly.
Dallas wanted to draft a QB in 2016 as early as R1. The Cowboys were looking for the next QB.

No human being with a brain would have kept paying Romo franchise QB money at 36 years old, having played 4 games in 2 seasons and couldn't practice because of back issues when you had a very cheap option playing as well as Dak did.

All that said, Zeke was fantastic as a rookie. But you do not draft guys for 1 year. Most certainly not top 5 overall.
You draft those kinds of guys for what they give you over a decade and only 2-3 RB in modern NFL history have given that kind of impact.

 

[Buzzbait]

Nobody will ever know if it would have made a difference or not.
It’s beyond time to let it go.

Yup, WAY beyond time to let it go. But some people never will. To them, no amount of broken bones, back surgeries, and all the skipped Wednesday practices ever made a difference. To them if he had to hobble out on crutches and casts, they'd still be claiming he was 100% healthy and ready to win a Super Bowl.
Hey I was a Romo fan too, but enough was enough. It was time.

 

[DogFace]

Love Romo. Most underrated passer all time. Best announcer all time. He was at the point where he literally could not be tackled or an injury would occur.
So if we had replaced Dak he’d have gotten hurt.

 

[SultanOfSix]

one reason dak isnt better than he is right now, is there is no threat to his job, none at all.

He’s just not accurate enough and plays scared as a result (holds onto the ball when he should throw it) when the competition gets tougher and the windows get tighter. You need a QB to take some chances and not go into a shell when something bad happens. Dak has gotten everything on a silver platter within a limited window of playing time. Dak would’ve never played under guys like Parcells or any other old school, well respected coach in year one because the backup QB situation would’ve never been what it was (among other things).

The obvious mental difference between him and Tony at that time was significant and expected, and it still is, both in terms of knowledge and processing speed of the game, and the latter doesn’t get enough credit for Dak’s play in his rookie year. You think it was Garrett or Linehan who helped him understand the game?

Dak will never win a SB here without at least a top five offense or defense and at least a top ten rank on the other side of the ball. Most QBs won’t except the great to elite ones and they still likely need at least one of the former on one side of the ball, even more so now in parity. Even Aikman won his first SB with the number one defense and offense in the league on 3rd down conversions.

 

[NotForLong]

Romo wouldn't have lasted three games without being driven off in a cart. The fact that no other team was interested in him should tell us everything we need to know.

Ill just post this for like the 1000x for those with Amnesia

https://nypost.com/2017/03/29/jerry-jones-is-completely-screwing-tony-romo/amp/

 

[NotForLong]

Source?

His own forgetful brain

 

[NotForLong]

Okay...ya'll want stats.....but then you don;t pay attention to THESE:

• Most consecutive road games with at least one touchdown pass: 41 (2009 – 2016)
• Highest QB rating in fourth quarter <<<<<LOOK!
• Most games in a season with a passer rating of at least 135.0 (6)

Dallas Cowboys team records

- In 12 NFL seasons Troy Aikman completed 61.5 percent of his passes for 32,942 yards. He threw for 165 touchdowns and 141 interceptions. His career passer rating was 81.6.
- In 11 NFL seasons Roger Staubach completed 57 percent of his passes for 22,700 yards. He threw for 153 touchdowns and 109 interceptions. He retired with an 83.4 career passer rating.
- In 9 NFL seasons, Romo has completed 64.5 percent of his passes for 20,834 yards. He’s thrown for 149 touchdowns and only 72 interceptions.

Romo has the highest quarterback rating of any these quarterbacks.

From 2007 to 2016, he led all quarterbacks with a 103.5 rating in the fourth quarter or overtime. Also, his 23 fourth-quarter comebacks and 27 game-winning drives from 2006 to 2014 ranked first for all quarterbacks. For his career, he ranks 17th in fourth-quarter comebacks (24) and 21st in game-winning drives (29).

his 7.89 yards per attempt ranks eighth all-time.

His 97.1 passer rating is the ninth-best in league history. You always want your signal-caller to have an accurate arm, and Romo had that to a tee. He finished his career with a completion percentage of 65.3, tied for 10th all-time with Peyton Manning, who was just recently selected to the 2021 Hall of Fame class.


There's more stats...if that's what you want to believe in.....FACT...Tony ranks right up there in QB stats with not only Cowboys QB's but the best QB's ever.

NOTE: these stats taken from all over and some might be outdated by now.....He was a GREAT QB among very good QB's of his time.

Here is another little stat I like to throw out there . . . Romo could throw the back shoulder throw . . . Once the league figured out Dak could not throw this pass not even to the greatest Back shoulder weapon ever born . . . Dez . . . It was a wrap

After that all Dak could do was rollouts to a WR running a Hitch route or comeback.

 

[NotForLong]

Romo was 2-4 in the playoffs and never made it beyond the divisional round. I don't know if you're trying to say Romo is better than Aikman and Staubach but the game is much different today than back then. It's why 18 out of 20 of the all-time QBR leaders are QBs over the last 20 years. Much harder to do that when old rules didn't favor the passing game.

Dak and Cousins right now have a higher career ratings than Romo too. It's definitely an efficiency metric that you have to consider with other factors. Tony Romo is basically Danny White, but atleast White got to the NFC championship a few times and was 10-8 in the playoffs.

Romo was a very good player for the Cowboys and probably should have had more playoff success, but we talk about him like we benched a hall of famer in his prime years. Romo was pretty bad in 2015 when he was available and his prior playoff success wasn't exactly glowing either. Dak won 13 regular season games and was on a great run while Romo was recovering. Who knows how it would have played out with Romo as a starter in the playoffs but if we benched Dak and Romo failed all we would be talking about is what a dumb decision it was to bench Dak. Cowboys made the right call...

If He didnt get cheated in 2014 and 2016 he would have been 8-3 in the playoffs with 2 Super Bowls

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Here is another little stat I like to throw out there . . . Romo could throw the back shoulder throw . . . Once the league figured out Dak could not throw this pass not even to the greatest Back shoulder weapon ever born . . . Dez . . . It was a wrap

After that all Dak could do was rollouts to a WR running a Hitch route or comeback.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Look man posting stupid stuff just gets you put on ignore and thats where we are going here pretty quick.
Nothing in my post was anything about your Tony Romo fetish.
Romo had 12 NFL seasons in Dallas before Dak was ever drafted. His career ending was due to health and health alone.
He was injured and played 4 games in 2015, Came into 2016 and was injured in camp forcing Dallas to pivot to Dak and get him up to speed on the fly.
Dallas wanted to draft a QB in 2016 as early as R1. The Cowboys were looking for the next QB.

No human being with a brain would have kept paying Romo franchise QB money at 36 years old, having played 4 games in 2 seasons and couldn't practice because of back issues when you had a very cheap option playing as well as Dak did.

All that said, Zeke was fantastic as a rookie. But you do not draft guys for 1 year. Most certainly not top 5 overall.
You draft those kinds of guys for what they give you over a decade and only 2-3 RB in modern NFL history have given that kind of impact.

So....admonish me for insulting by..insulting? hmmm...ok then. Anyway.

My comments weren't necessarily directed to you personally. You do know other people read comments.

I actually do not think you are a "hater". In fact...very few here are whether it's dak or tony.

But I do think you and others are wrong about Tony. And here's why: Dak FINALLY gave Tony a chance to fully heal. Tony usually came back too early...playing hurt, gets you hurt. Or he just played through the injury without missing time. Gets you more hurt.

I am not saying he WOULDN'T get hurt again. But if he does...you put Dak back in. If he's any good, it's no problem.

And it was said many times "we don;t want to mess with a streak". What? Superstition? Crazy.

Tony's final drive of his career showed he was in a good health and great command of the game.

 

[DandyDon52]

Ill just post this for like the 1000x for those with Amnesia

https://nypost.com/2017/03/29/jerry-jones-is-completely-screwing-tony-romo/amp/

i liked this part
Jones said this week his deadline for moving on from Romo is not until training camp starts (late July/early August). Perhaps there is some impatience growing from Romo’s end. There have been a couple of leaks recently about his discontent with the Cowboys franchise.

If people have the right read on the situation, Jones and his false piety are firebombing bridges with a quarterback who’s bled silver and blue for a decade and should be considered a Cowboy for life, all because it might get his team the 180th pick in the draft. It’s almost as if Jones is nudging Romo toward retirement and the announcing booth, a kind of “If I can’t have him, you can’t either.”

guess it worked !

from another article on that page
According to an NFL Network report, Romo was hurt over the “Team Dak” that formed in Dallas and “has distanced himself” from the teammates and coach who backed his successor.

 

[Kingofholland]

If He didnt get cheated in 2014 and 2016 he would have been 8-3 in the playoffs with 2 Super Bowls

Lol that's about as speculative as you can get.