If your serious about culture change, Murray should see limited snaps

..after another abysmal performance from #59. This guy should be demoted to 2nd string, with limited playing time.

But hey, thats just me. I only saw what the television showed me.
But you still have Schottenheimer affectionately calling him K9 and saying that we are getting good snaps out of him.

Honestly not sure wth these coaches are thinking unless the believe our other options are so trash that they have to pretend to believe in Murray.
 
Even Sanborn. Theres levels to this. Its just when someone says that you assume its levels of awesomeness they are talking about, not levels of garbage. Lol
Right lol. I had to learn it the hard way. I do have to wonder would these guys be better in a different scheme…..
 
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But you still have Schottenheimer affectionately calling him K9 and saying that we are getting good snaps out of him.

Honestly not sure wth these coaches are thinking unless the believe our other options are so trash that they have to pretend to believe in Murray.
Yeah it’s weird because he let it be known that Steele wasn’t up to par but is complimentary of Murray.
 
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Kenneth Murray grade is a freaking 36.8 which is ranked 82 out of 84 linebackers. I don't know how we keep putting him out there. The guy sucks lol. I thought when we got Wilson we would have seen less Murray. But Murray snaps are still waaayyyyyyyy too high.

VS the Lions Overshown had 47 snaps, Murray had 36 snaps. Wilson had 26 snaps, Liufau had 9 snaps and Shemar James had 6 snaps.
He was ranked as the worst linebacker in the league last year (or close to it) in Tennessee. And not only did he stay in the league, he got another starting job and a $6M salary. I genuinely do not understand.
 
..after another abysmal performance from #59. This guy should be demoted to 2nd string, with limited playing time.

But hey, thats just me. I only saw what the television showed me.

This is true. I have no idea why some other players get benched but this guy gets zero consequence.
 
..after another abysmal performance from #59. This guy should be demoted to 2nd string, with limited playing time.

But hey, thats just me. I only saw what the television showed me.
Is Logan Wilson bad enough not to beat out Murray.

Trevon Diggs tackles better than Kenneth Murray...
 
I know this sounds crazy but I think they'd be better off re-signing Damone Clark and playing him. He stinks but not as bad as Murray.
He was a 17 game stsrter in 2023 and they won 12 games...
 
In 2023 they won 12 games with these starting LBs:
D. Clark
M. Bell
Yeah and got exposed soon as the playoffs started but point taken. I’d kill for that defense. I remember when we just wanted interior help and a linebacker that wasn’t 215 points. Those problems don’t seem as big as they use to be lol.
 
Until there's a culture change in the front office, there will be no culture change on the field
/end thread

Coaches (including Brian Schottenheimer) and players have changed. The culture had an opportunity to definitively change during the Bill Parcells' era. Otherwise, it has looked different at times but were mirages every time.

Perhaps 2026 will be different. People from Missouri will say, "Show me." That is the best advice anyone should follow.
 
..after another abysmal performance from #59. This guy should be demoted to 2nd string, with limited playing time.

But hey, thats just me. I only saw what the television showed me.
Limited snaps??? Try ZERO …….
 
He was ranked as the worst linebacker in the league last year (or close to it) in Tennessee. And not only did he stay in the league, he got another starting job and a $6M salary. I genuinely do not understand.
Crazy right. We pick up one of the worst linebackers in FA and we expected them to be "better".

I believe Flus was in Jerry's ear about K9 and Jack Sanborn.

Two swing and misses.
 
Forget culture. This is purely on the field, the guy can't play . Shouldn't be starting. Tells you how awful that position is for us. Logan wilson is good, but has no help . Overshown is green...still learning. We need to address this in the off-season.
 

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