Igor vs. Canty - The Numbers

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I've been thinking about this as just a money issue. Dumb of me to not think at all ole Igor may fit our scheme better than Canty. Just saying and hoping.
 

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Nice work on the comparison. I always kinda had higher expectations for Canty since he was touted as a 1st round talent who slipped to the 4th because of his eye injury. I never felt like he was 1st rnd worthy, but was a good catch at 4. I really don't think there will be a drop off in production.
 

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Meh, we didn't really need him but he came somewhat cheap...
 

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I posted this in another thread..but for those who haven't seen it...

Free-agent scouting report Chargers DE Igor Olshansky (UFA)

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By ProFootball.com
Feb 15 2009

This is the sixth in a series of scouting reports on high-profile free agents, in which we summarize each player's status, analyze his strengths and weaknesses, assess whether or not his team is likely to re-sign him, and determine the risk factor for the team that signs him. These scouting reports will be posted daily through Feb. 27, the start of the free-agent signing period.

News: After spending five seasons in San Diego, Olshansky will opt out of his contract with one year remaining and become a free agent. With the Chargers extending DE Luis Castillo’s deal last offseason and with Ryon Bingham waiting in the wings, they’re not expected to retain Olshansky, meaning he’ll hit the open market. Teams in need of a 3-4 end or possibly a 4-3 tackle may look to bring him in to bolster their line. Following a lackluster 2008 campaign, the Oregon product should benefit from a change of scenery.

Notes: Since Olshansky joined the Chargers in 2004, their defense has been in the top half of the league in points allowed each season, and they never have had a losing record. He switched from right end to left end prior to the ’07 campaign and proceeded to have his best season. That year he racked up 49 tackles, 3½ sacks, one interception and three passes defended. He has been a starter in San Diego since Day One. With so many stars on the team’s defense, Olshansky was often overlooked, but he always was a quiet contributor who didn’t crave the limelight.

Strengths: Playing the difficult DE spot in the 3-4 formation, Olshansky has helped give the Chargers one of the league’s more formidable D-lines since entering the NFL in 2004. At 6-6, 309 pounds, he has a large frame and is very difficult to block coming off the line. He’s extremely athletic for his size and has tremendous strength, giving him the ability to easily shed blockers. His powerful lower body makes him stout against the run. He can create double-teams, freeing up his linebackers to get clear shots at opposing quarterbacks. He has the versatility to line up at either end or tackle, depending on the system in which he’s playing.

Weaknesses: Olshansky can be very streaky. He makes some big plays but then disappears for long stretches. He doesn’t react all that well and isn’t an instinctive player. For a D-end, he doesn’t have much in terms of pass-rushing moves, totaling just 11 sacks in five seasons. He sometimes allows his emotions to get the best of him, resulting in unnecessary penalties. He has never reached 50 tackles in a season.

Risk factor: Moderate. Olshansky, who turns 27 in early May, will give a team a solid defensive lineman with many good years still ahead of him. However, his production in the pros never has been stunning, so there’s not a whole lot of upside here.
 

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Sounds like Canty at a 24 million dollar discount. Thanks Chargers and Giants!
 

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Adam came up with a rebuttal to the quit thing in that article. He pointed out that the last 4 games the chargers were hardly ever in the 3-4= nickel most of the time where Igor did not play anyway. He said that every play that they were in a 3-4 in those games Igor was in.
 

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This is a good move cause we essentially have another Canty here and for a lot less money. Good deal for Dallas.
 

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Nav22;2675876 said:
Igor has played 5 years, Canty has played 4. They are both 26, with Igor being 6 months older.

Igor has played in a total of 75 games, Canty in a total of 64.

Igor has compiled 179 tackles total (2.4 per game)... Canty 148 (2.3 per game).

Igor has compiled 11 sacks (0.15 per game)... Canty 10 (0.16) per game.

Canty has had more passes defensed (8 to 6), but Igor has 1 INT while Canty has 0.

Can you say "wash"?

Good pickup, especially if we're paying him less than what Canty got from the Giants.

Can you compare starts? Because canty didn't start his rookie year...
 

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DaBoys4Life;2676898 said:
Can you compare starts? Because canty didn't start his rookie year...

In 2004, Canty was in college. Olshansky left college early, started 16 games and had one sack and two PDs.

In 2005, Canty started two games and didn't have a sack or a PD in either one. Olshansky started 12 games and had three sacks and no PDs.

In 2006, Canty started 16 games and had one sack and one PD. Olshansky started 13 games and had 1.5 sacks and one PD.

In 2007, Canty started 16 games and had 3.5 sacks and two PDs. Olshansky started 16 games and had 3.5 sacks, three PDs and one INT.

In 2008, Canty started 16 games and had three sacks and five PDs. Olshansky started 13 games and had two sacks and no PDs.
 

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DC.COM lists:
Olshansky has started 70 of 75 career games and recorded 187 tackles, 11 sacks and one interception. He had 54 tackles and two sacks last season for the Chargers, who have maintained a 3-4 system in the two years since Phillips left for Dallas.
 

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This was a heckuva move (swapping Canty's contract for Igor's). Kudos to Jerry and Wade on that one.
 

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dallas_112678;2676977 said:
Plus his name is Igor....that has to count for something.
exactly! and I already want his autograph and never cared to get Canty's though I got Ratliff's,Hatcher's and spears autographs last year from the d-linemen.
 
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