I'm afraid we are stuck

[NoLuv4Jerry]

When Jason started out....he made some of the most basic head coaching blunders that you would not expect of a head coach...let alone a NFL Head Coach. It turns out Jerry overestimated how football smart Jason was because of his Princeton education and his football pedigree. In addition to that....he recounted Joe Gibbs telling him that for a coach to be respected...he needed to more than a "walk around coach" He needed to heavily involved on at least one side of the ball. Jerry did not account for the fact that Jason had never been a head coach on ANY level. Jason had never called plays on ANY level. So the task of doing both was CLEARLY overwhelming. I said long before Jason was relieved of his play calling duties...that he could not do both.

Well...the head coaching blunders continued. Which led to a meeting Jason had with Jimmy Johnson one summer. Which also led to Jason convincing Jerry that doing both was too much for him.

Fast forward to last week against Green Bay. As a head coach....who does not have to call plays...Jasons duties are not nearly as burdensome on gameday. He has to get the team ready to play...and he has to decide when to go for it...when to kick the FG...when to call timeout...when to throw the challenge flag...when to defer after winning the coin toss...work the refs to get the NEXT call or prevent them from calling BS etc....

Jason did not have many BIG decisions to make on Sunday. I will not get into if he had the team "ready to play" The defense is what it is. We win games by protecting them. We win games by extending drives and scoring TDs in the redzone. We ask them to make a key stop here and there. THAT is the formula. We got down 21 -3 because we did not convert those early drives to TDs...which we could have done but for some "strange" call s by the refs. But when he FINALLY had to show up as the HEAD COAH on Sunday...he decides to spike the ball with 49 seconds. Under NO scenarios...should that last minute been managed...that would have allowed Aaron Rodgers back on the field. One...our defense is bad. Two....Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL...and has been for some time. Three...Rodgers has proven to be a master of the Hail Mary. So we should win that game in regulation. Tie and go to OT. Or miss a game tying FG. That's it!!!!!!!!!!

So here is why we are stuck. I am of the opinion that Jason Garrett cannot do the things a head coach needs to do to win 3 or 4 playoff games in the same season. He cannot make they key crucial decisions 3 or 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. But because he just won 13 games...and because he did it with a rookie QB....Jason is not going anywhere anytime soon. So we are stuck. And I have nothing against Jason personally...I just think he is better suited for the front office. I do not see him as a Super Bowl winning head coach.

 

[Venger]

We need to make the lead big enough so the game isn't in his hands... it's a variation of the "if it ain't close, they can't cheat" clause. If it isn't close, a bad decision can't blow it...

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

When Jason started out....he made some of the most basic head coaching blunders that you would not expect of a head coach...let alone a NFL Head Coach. It turns out Jerry overestimated how football smart Jason was because of his Princeton education and his football pedigree. In addition to that....he recounted Joe Gibbs telling him that for a coach to be respected...he needed to more than a "walk around coach" He needed to heavily involved on at least one side of the ball. Jerry did not account for the fact that Jason had never been a head coach on ANY level. Jason had never called plays on ANY level. So the task of doing both was CLEARLY overwhelming. I said long before Jason was relieved of his play calling duties...that he could not do both.

Well...the head coaching blunders continued. Which led to a meeting Jason had with Jimmy Johnson one summer. Which also led to Jason convincing Jerry that doing both was too much for him.

Fast forward to last week against Green Bay. As a head coach....who does not have to call plays...Jasons duties are not nearly as burdensome on gameday. He has to get the team ready to play...and he has to decide when to go for it...when to kick the FG...when to call timeout...when to throw the challenge flag...when to defer after winning the coin toss...work the refs to get the NEXT call or prevent them from calling BS etc....

Jason did not have many BIG decisions to make on Sunday. I will not get into if he had the team "ready to play" The defense is what it is. We win games by protecting them. We win games by extending drives and scoring TDs in the redzone. We ask them to make a key stop here and there. THAT is the formula. We got down 21 -3 because we did not convert those early drives to TDs...which we could have done but for some "strange" call s by the refs. But when he FINALLY had to show up as the HEAD COAH on Sunday...he decides to spike the ball with 49 seconds. Under NO scenarios...should that last minute been managed...that would have allowed Aaron Rodgers back on the field. One...our defense is bad. Two....Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL...and has been for some time. Three...Rodgers has proven to be a master of the Hail Mary. So we should win that game in regulation. Tie and go to OT. Or miss a game tying FG. That's it!!!!!!!!!!

So here is why we are stuck. I am of the opinion that Jason Garrett cannot do the things a head coach needs to do to win 3 or 4 playoff games in the same season. He cannot make they key crucial decisions 3 or 4 games in a row to win a Super Bowl. But because he just won 13 games...and because he did it with a rookie QB....Jason is not going anywhere anytime soon. So we are stuck. And I have nothing against Jason personally...I just think he is better suited for the front office. I do not see him as a Super Bowl winning head coach.

I for one can't really argue against your points.

 

[Kaiser]

Every post about every coach on every team that loses a playoff game is that the coach is an idiot. Dallas is a very good but very young team that no one honestly expected to go to the Super Bowl - and it took a superhuman performance by Rodgers to knock them out.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

We are lucky to have Garrett,, if that is "stuck".. I am ok with that.. We could be stuck with a much lesser coach, lilke Bill O'Brien, Chip Kelly, Marvin Lewis, etc..

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Every post about every coach on every team that loses a playoff game is that the coach is an idiot. Dallas is a very good but very young team that no one honestly expected to go to the Super Bowl - and it took a superhuman performance by Rodgers to knock them out.

Not true. I am taking Sunday into account when I look at the BIG picture. You have to win 3 or 4 games in the postseason to win a Super Bowl. Jason is actually defending his spiking of the ball. It was the WRONG decision. Especially when you take into account ALL of the factors...which is what the HEAD coach is supposed to do. Jason has been here many years. We have NOT gotten past the divisional round. And I will not even get into Jasons tenure versus the other Head Coaches in the NFL. But based on the evidence...I cannot see him putting it all together in the same post season. I see it as years of him taking baby steps. Especially when he is adamant that spiking the ball was the right call.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

stupid thread. spiking the ball was a sound decision.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

We are lucky to have Garrett,, if that is "stuck".. I am ok with that.. We could be stuck with a much lesser coach, lilke Bill O'Brien, Chip Kelly, Marvin Lewis, etc..

I agree. hell of a head coach.

 

[JoeKing]

So 13 wins happened without proper coaching? How did the Cowboys end up with a better record than 30 other teams if the coaching was inferior? Your presumptions and fears seem to be incorrect and unwarranted, OP.

 

[Zordon]

We are lucky to have Garrett,, if that is "stuck".. I am ok with that.. We could be stuck with a much lesser coach, lilke Bill O'Brien, Chip Kelly, Marvin Lewis, etc..

Wow, Marvin Lewis and Bill O'brien have been to Super Bowls as coordinators.

Garrett has been here since '07 as a coordinator and '10 as a HC. He can't even sniff a NFC Championship Game.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

We are lucky to have Garrett,, if that is "stuck".. I am ok with that.. We could be stuck with a much lesser coach, lilke Bill O'Brien, Chip Kelly, Marvin Lewis, etc..

I assume you think this season should be considered a success? A season with ZERO playoff wins. The 2nd time he has been a part of a 13-3 team with home field advantage throughout facing a team you have already beaten. This is why we are LUCKY to have him? And Marvin Lewis made the playoffs like 4 or 5 years in a row in a very touch AFC North. But I know there are a lot of people who feel like Jason is the right guy for this job. And I was hopeful for a long time. But I just think he is better suited for the front office.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Wow, Marvin Lewis and Bill O'brien have been to Super Bowls. Garrett can't even sniff a NFC Championship Game.

I don't remember the Bengals or the Texans in a SB??

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

So 13 wins happened without proper coaching? How did the Cowboys end up with a better record than 30 other teams if the coaching was inferior? Your presumptions and fears seem to be incorrect and unwarranted, OP.

The playoffs are the elite of the elite. My goal is to eventually win a Super Bowl. When the playoffs start...everyone's record starts out 0-0. And he has YET to really get out the starting blocks. He has been in this position before. And the SAME thing happened. We just finished up a season with ZERO playoff wins. AGAIN!!! What will it take to convince you he can get it done?

 

[Zordon]

I don't remember the Bengals or the Texans in a SB??

Read my edit.

Marvin Lewis has won a Super Bowl as the DC with the Ravens.

Bill O'brien has been to two Super Bowls as the OC of the Patriots.

What on Garrett's coaching resume comes close to that?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I don't remember the Bengals or the Texans in a SB??

Marvin was the d coordinator for the Super Bowl wining Ravens. Not the same as Head Coach...but anyone who knows football...knows the Ravens defense is WHY they won the Super Bowl. Heck even the Ravens knew it..because they cut the Super Bowl winning QB that offseason. That did NOT stand pat. They looked across the landscape and decided they were winning in SPITE of Dilfer...not because of him. And they moved on.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

stupid thread. spiking the ball was a sound decision.

It was WRONG. Said it at the time. Turned to everyone at my house and said you left Rogers too much time. Rodgers was asked about it...and he said they left him too much time. So you keep thinking it was right. The proof is in the results.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

It was WRONG. Said it at the time. Turned to everyone at my house and said you left Rogers too much time. Rodgers was asked about it...and he said they left him too much time. So you keep thinking it was right. The proof is in the results.

spiking the ball didn't leave GB any time. it was second down and we still had the ball. we had chances to get a first - in which case it is us benefiting from the 12-15 seconds of time it saved.

 

[Jake]

It was WRONG. Said it at the time. Turned to everyone at my house and said you left Rogers too much time. Rodgers was asked about it...and he said they left him too much time. So you keep thinking it was right. The proof is in the results.

And I'll say it again, the goal was a TD not a field goal. Suddenly, we care what Aaron Rodgers says?

So Dallas calls time out there, gets a first down, then ends up rushing the FG unit on the field 2-3 plays later and missing it, you'd be here saying how stupid it was to have used our time out. Either way, you're "right" on a message board.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

And I'll say it again, the goal was a TD not a field goal. Suddenly, we care what Aaron Rodgers says?

So Dallas calls time out there, gets a first down, then ends up rushing the FG unit on the field 2-3 plays later and missing it, you'd be here saying how stupid it was to have used our time out. Either way, you're "right" on a message board.

You don't spike it...you don't call timeout...you run a play against a GASSED Green Bay defense. That was not that hard to figure out. And like I said...I said it AT the time.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Read my edit.

Marvin Lewis has won a Super Bowl as the DC with the Ravens.

Bill O'brien has been to two Super Bowls as the OC of the Patriots.

What on Garrett's coaching resume comes close to that?

And yet, none of that has helped them in their HC tenures to do anything of note. What is your point?

And both of them are terrible on game days. Bill O especially. He is a complete and utter moron on game days.