I'm cautiously curious about Schotty

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I'm cautiously curious about Schotty. I'm not expecting anything massive for the 2025 season, and we will certainly see if the Joneses will give him any help soon enough. However, I did like the points of emphasis he had. I like how he wants to put an emphasis on the run game and play action. Those are areas that are a strength of this offense. Plus, by virtue of this emphasis, it's bound to give us more time of possession. Given the schedule that we will have in 2025, I'm not expecting a great record, but I'm curious to see the system he puts in place. I like how he seems inclined to play to our strengths. Compared to some of the other options like Kellen Moore or Jason Witten, Schotty has at least paid his dues as an assistant for a long time to get to this point. I do think he was deserving, given that, of a HC job. I can at least appreciate that he's not someone who was just plucked from a HS rank.

That being said, I have some concerns about Schotty. Firstly, I'd have liked to have heard his points of emphasis on the defence. I understand that's probably an aspect that he's probably wanting to defer to Eberflus, but I'd at least have liked, since he's the head coach, a general idea of what points of emphasis he wants. Does he want more physical trenches? In fact, going to point two with a connection to my first concern, I'm left pondering the culture that Schotty is going to try to install. I'm not expecting a highly successful season this year. Besides our division rivals, we play the AFC West and the NFC North among others. So, the record and aiming for high success in 2025 is not my expectation. What I am expecting and wanting to see is what culture Schotty wants to bring. Culture building coaches has been the building block of a lot of the successful franchises the last few seasons, between Quinn in Washington, Reid in KC, Campbell in Detroit, Sirianni in Philly, etc. I am curious what culture he wants to install. I also want to know how resilient the culture is that he's going to install. How strong is it going to be if we start 2025 with a 1-5 record? Will he stick with it?

Finally, my their concern is how much help are the Joneses going to give him? Let's be honest, they have Mike not much help and expected a championship. Have the Joneses learned their lesson? How much pressure do they feel seeing the Chiefs dynasty and seeing Philly in the Super Bowl again? I didn't appreciate Stephen doing air quotes in a manner that was mocking us fans with legitimate concerns about this team and the drought we have. It's not made up thing. It really is a drought. The longest in the NFC for championship game appearances. So, are the Joneses serious about winning? Or are they going to leave Schotty hanging dry? How patient are they going to be with him? These are all things we will find out soon enough.

So, while I still have a lot of concerns, I am going to approach this offseason with a sense of cautious curiosity. I think Schotty can be a good coach. My concern is the level of help they are going to give him. Since they did what they did with Mike, it's incumbent in the FO to give this new coaching staff the tools necessary to succeed. Otherwise, you're just giving a plumber a rubber duck, and expecting him to completely remodel the bathroom.
 
Was starting a thread on this when I saw your thread. I agree...my expectations for the 2025 Cowboys season aren't that high TBH, but I do like his approach so far. I think some good coaching staff choices have been made. And if the run-first approach lives up to the advertisement, then I think it's s step in the right direction. We'll learn more about this once the draft is over. Optimistic might be too strong of a word choice right now. But I am curious...way more curious than if McCarthy was still the coach.
 
The hire doesnt make a lot of sense to me. The number one complaint I kept hearing was the culture, yet you hire someone to be your headcoach from said staff. Doesn't make a bunch of sense to me. I'd be looking outside the building not from within after that failure of a season. Shotty is who the Jones want. A first year headcoach who is easy to control and will tow the company line.
 
The hire doesnt make a lot of sense to me. The number one complaint I kept hearing was the culture, yet you hire someone to be your headcoach from said staff. Doesn't make a bunch of sense to me. I'd be looking outside the building not from within after that failure of a season. Shotty is who the Jones want. A first year headcoach who is easy to control and will tow the company line.
I can understand why someone would say that but there were sources that say Schotty had philosophical disagreements with McCarthy who, at the end of the day, wasn't serious about committing to the run. Schotty also has a track record of being run-first in coaching with other teams. I intend to give him the benefit of the doubt this season.
 
I can understand why someone would say that but there were sources that say Schotty had philosophical disagreements with McCarthy who, at the end of the day, wasn't serious about committing to the run. Schotty also has a track record of being run-first in coaching with other teams. I intend to give him the benefit of the doubt this season.

Yeah, and it would play to Dak's strengths to run it more and to use the play action. Plus, it just makes sense to run the ball more.
 
The way Cowboys fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Jerry and Co see something that 9 other teams before didn't see should be studied in universities.
It's ok to be optimistic that he does well as a hc in this specific situation- he's never been a hc before, has new coordinators and he has a chance to set his style.

We all knew what we had with MC and Garett, at this point no reason not to give him a chance and see some potential - he's a culture guy, ceo type coach and a run first mentality...all things that are fair points to be optimistic about
 
The hire doesnt make a lot of sense to me. The number one complaint I kept hearing was the culture, yet you hire someone to be your headcoach from said staff. Doesn't make a bunch of sense to me. I'd be looking outside the building not from within after that failure of a season. Shotty is who the Jones want. A first year headcoach who is easy to control and will tow the company line.
The failure of the season, started before the season, with the same GM we currently have, and this off season looks very familiar, regardless of a having a new coach.
 
The way Cowboys fans are desperately trying to convince themselves that Jerry and Co see something that 9 other teams before didn't see should be studied in universities.

1. It's the offseason, so, if it's a bad thing that I'm trying to look for any optimism, then why be a fan in the first place? 2. All I'm saying is that, if Schotty does what he says, then I would imagine our season will be a little better. If nothing else, maybe we will see a slightly more efficient team, especially in the RedZone.
 
It's ok to be optimistic that he does well as a hc in this specific situation- he's never been a hc before, has new coordinators and he has a chance to set his style.

We all knew what we had with MC and Garett, at this point no reason not to give him a chance and see some potential - he's a culture guy, ceo type coach and a run first mentality...all things that are fair points to be optimistic about

Exactly, so, why not hope for the team to be better? Nobody is expecting a Lombardi. I think I made my point clear as to what I mean by cautiously curious.
 
It's ok to be optimistic that he does well as a hc in this specific situation- he's never been a hc before, has new coordinators and he has a chance to set his style.

We all knew what we had with MC and Garett, at this point no reason not to give him a chance and see some potential - he's a culture guy, ceo type coach and a run first mentality...all things that are fair points to be optimistic about
You do realize that he wouldn't even have been hired as a coordinator for any other team if he left Dallas after last season right?

We hired a HC that wouldn't even get a coordinator job anywhere else.

He will be a failure as a HC just like he was a failure with 9 other teams in various jobs before Dallas.
 
Cautiously curious is not a terrible expectation standard if going by the optimistic perspective.

Tracing past resume performance as a 2 decades plus OC along with the Dallas Cowboys unique HC hiring process would probably lead to a more skeptical outlook by pessimists.

So ya prolly fall under one of those 2 categories honestly.
 
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1. It's the offseason, so, if it's a bad thing that I'm trying to look for any optimism, then why be a fan in the first place? 2. All I'm saying is that, if Schotty does what he says, then I would imagine our season will be a little better. If nothing else, maybe we will see a slightly more efficient team, especially in the RedZone.
There is no rule that says being a fan requires you to be foolish.

If every coach was able to do what they say then there would never be firings and hirings.

Just remember, MC told ya so, as usual.
 
You do realize that he wouldn't even have been hired as a coordinator for any other team if he left Dallas after last season right?

We hired a HC that wouldn't even get a coordinator job anywhere else.

He will be a failure as a HC just like he was a failure with 9 other teams in various jobs before DaDallas.
He may very well fail but that is yet to be seen. Some times people find the right job and everything clicks for them, at this point there is no reason to not have some optimism that at least he is a breath of fresh air and we some change.
 
He may very well fail but that is yet to be seen. Some times people find the right job and everything clicks for them, at this point there is no reason to not have some optimism that at least he is a breath of fresh air and we some change.

Exactly, and I'm going to give him time and my support. My bar for him isn't high, but I'm not going to call for an immediate sacking unless he's clearly useless either. I'm going to give him time to see what culture he wants to bring.
 
Cautiously curious is not a terrible expectation standard if going by the optimistic perspective.

Tracing past resume performance as a 2 decades plus OC along with the Dallas Cowboys unique HC hiring process would probably lead to a more skeptical outlook by pessimists.

So ya prolly fall under one of those 2 categories honestly.

Exactly, and this is a coach who deserves a HC opportunity with his background
 

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