I'm confused about Jerry

djmajestik;4817052 said:
He's looking for discource about Jerry on a public forum concerning the Dallas Cowboys. Not sure why anyone who is sick of Jerry posts would come in to a post with the name "Jerry" right in the title.

Man this forum is just gotten beyond cynical. If you don't like something someone posts, don't read it. Leave the post. I get it, there are a lot of Jerry posts but going in each one and complaining about the fact that there are a lot of Jerry posts isn't conducive to enjoying a good forum. Neither is belittling posters.

Just my two cents.

If you are sick of Jerry, and how he runs the team, then don't watch the cowboys until he leaves.

See how it works both ways?

If you are going to make a post about Jerry, better have some new ideas, because I for 1 will ask you, how do we go about this then?

If you have nothing new to add to the jerry bash fest, then just post in the other million jerry threads. Don't try and get attention off Jerry's name.
 
Frozen700;4817163 said:
If you are sick of Jerry, and how he runs the team, then don't watch the cowboys until he leaves.

See how it works both ways?

If you are going to make a post about Jerry, better have some new ideas, because I for 1 will ask you, how do we go about this then?

If you have nothing new to add to the jerry bash fest, then just post in the other million jerry threads. Don't try and get attention off Jerry's name.

So Jerry threads annoy you but Jerry the GM doesnt?:bang2:
 
Apollo Creed;4816820 said:
If you're confused about Jerry go have about 12 Scotch drinks, put 2.1 billion in your account, 3 Super Bowls in your trophy case and you'll see the world through his freshly cleaned lens.

Outstanding Summary
 
AMERICAS_FAN;4817076 said:
You forgot to mention - fire the head coach that won you those 3 rings so you can feel like you won them yourself. ;)

Yes, but then get exposed for being one of the worst GM's in modern football without a powerful coach to offset your incompetence.
 
birdwells1;4817207 said:
So Jerry threads annoy you but Jerry the GM doesnt?:bang2:

That is a peculiar practice. I think that if there weren't so many people that support Jerry, there would be less reaction to him on this forum, although I think that even his support here is waning.
 
Hook'em#11;4817130 said:
Jerry is a very great business man with a huge EGO.

Doesn't matter what he hears, he isn't ever stepping down. This dude will be on life support, blind and deaf and will still have a live feed of some sort in the draft room and all of the deals going on.

He is smart? Business smart. Common sense? Not so much.

People always say how great a businessman Jerry is but aren't all owners. I mean to amass enough money to buy a pro sports team you would have to great in business away from the sporting arena.

I am reluctant to give Jerry as much credit as some others do and here's the reason. Jerry took over the most popular sports franchise in America and made them.....wait for it......the most popular sports franchise in America. Its not like he's turned the Jacksonville Jaguars into a top 5 team as far as popularity goes, now that would be a feat. The Cowboys popularity has grown probably at a rate that is parallel to the NFL's growth over the past 20 years or so.
 
Doomsay;4817235 said:
That is a peculiar practice. I think that if there weren't so many people that support Jerry, there would be less reaction to him on this forum, although I think that even his support here is waning.

I don't know a single Cowboys fan that likes Jerry. Love the team but can't stand Jerry.
 
if we bought in a GM? he has to have an attitude....he can learn on the job but we need attitude somewhere

i vote for Jim Mora Sr.

Jim Mora Sr. in '13

playoff's??? Playoff?? i'm just hoping we don't turn it over 5 times every game don't talk to me about playoffs....playoffs are you serious?
 
birdwells1;4817207 said:
So Jerry threads annoy you but Jerry the GM doesnt?:bang2:

The thing is they are all the same. Lets complain about jerry. Why not whine in the other jerry threads. Why create a new one, just to complain about the same.

You complain but nothing will change. Go take action if you are so sick of jerry, to the point you feel you have to create a new thread to be seen.

All this is, is a "hey look at me, im sick of jerry"
 
Jerry. 1989-2012. That's roughly a SB WIN every 7-8 years. Now, I'm not blind to the fact Jerry hasn't won anything much since 95. So I get the angst and I in fact am on that side.

But right now people want change because they don't like what's happening. So what changes are going to really help right now? Not much. Have the owner fire the GM. Really? In the middle of the year. That'll help. Same thing for the GM firing the coach. Oh yeah! Think there are problems now then wait until Robinson or Hannahan try to put in a simplified vertical offense or better a new offense.

But vent away by all means.

If this team can cut the mistakes way back then they are good enough to compete for the division and probably the conference.
 
jobberone;4817311 said:
If this team can cut the mistakes way back then they are good enough to compete for the division and probably the conference.

this team cuts mistakes we are sitting here at 6-1

seattle just manhandled us
we hold the giants offense to just one touchdown? and lose?
the bears only scored 2 touchdowns on offense? and we lose?
we ran the ball for over 200 yards against the ravens? and we lose?
 
birdwells1;4817243 said:
People always say how great a businessman Jerry is but aren't all owners. I mean to amass enough money to buy a pro sports team you would have to great in business away from the sporting arena.

I am reluctant to give Jerry as much credit as some others do and here's the reason. Jerry took over the most popular sports franchise in America and made them.....wait for it......the most popular sports franchise in America. Its not like he's turned the Jacksonville Jaguars into a top 5 team as far as popularity goes, now that would be a feat. The Cowboys popularity has grown probably at a rate that is parallel to the NFL's growth over the past 20 years or so.

:laugh2: :laugh2:

The Dallas Cowboys were the suck of the NFL when Jones bought them. Dude went broke buying them. Gimme a break.

He helped turn this franchise and around and helped MADE them a contender. That all changed after the first Super Bowl win of his ownership.

He then proceeded to eat a bowl of Stupid and Ego from there on out.

I give Jerry THAT credit.
 
My problem with JJ is that he breeds a sense of entitlement. Getting curb-stomped at Seattle and against Chicago is not exactly the perfect time to be talking about SuperBowls. I don't know how the players are suppose to keep focus on the next game when the owner/GM already has them winning the division, breezing through the playoffs, and of course, winning the SuperBowl. ALL. AFTER. A. LOSS.

To me, it undermines what your coaches are trying to accomplish, which hopefully is the next practice, then the next play, and ultimately, the next game.

Jerry the GM, obviously to most, is not the best GM. He is also not the worst. He has definitely made some seriously bad trades in the last decade or so. The drafts have been far from stellar. I still believe the ONLY REASON he drafted Q-Car is because they have the same birth date, Oct. 13. I also have to seriously question his decision/motive when he drafts players with the last name of Jones. It's like he is imagining himself in those jerseys.

Jerry has also not gotten lucky with draft picks. From what I can remember off hand, that his picks, for the most part, have been taken just about where they were projected. I say unlucky because of the Tom Bradys of the drafts. If New England knew he would be Tom Brady, they'd picked him in the first round. It's a crap-shoot and being consistently right is not going to happen.

This sense of entitlement trickles all the way throughout the roster. It's like they (the players) don't have to worry - much - about their performance because Jerry will be there to back them up... because they know Jerry made the choice to draft them, and Jerry will not be wrong on his player evaluation, even to the detriment of the team.
 
MizzouCowboy;4817400 said:
Jerry the GM, obviously to most, is not the best GM. He is also not the worst.
.

let me take this very very low bar you have set for GMs and ask you to clarify even that

give me the names of 3 NFL teams that would fire their GM AND HIRE JERRY as their GM

if you cant name such teams, when you say "he is not the worst GM" that is clearly not true
 
birdwells1;4817243 said:
People always say how great a businessman Jerry is but aren't all owners. I mean to amass enough money to buy a pro sports team you would have to great in business away from the sporting arena.

I am reluctant to give Jerry as much credit as some others do and here's the reason. Jerry took over the most popular sports franchise in America and made them.....wait for it......the most popular sports franchise in America. Its not like he's turned the Jacksonville Jaguars into a top 5 team as far as popularity goes, now that would be a feat. The Cowboys popularity has grown probably at a rate that is parallel to the NFL's growth over the past 20 years or so.

There are 'two' Jerry's. One's the businessman/salesman. The other is the 'football guy.'

Jerry's one of, if not the greatest, sports businessman of all-time. His ability to market, popularize and sell anything and everything is fantastic. As a Cowboys fan outside of Texas, it's amazing how much Cowboys stuff I can still get my hands on.

Unfortunately, he's soooo good at businessman/salesman, the Cowboys remain popular, compensating for his failures as a football guy.

'Football guy' Jerry in any other market would have changed his ways, as popularity and revenues dropped from TV blackouts and merchandise revenue decreases. But businessman/salesman Jerry saves 'football guy' and the money keeps rolling in from jersey sales, Jonas Bros concerts, concession company, new stadium, etc...

I like businessman/salesman Jerry. I don't like the other one.
 
Kaika;4816578 said:
Now as intelligent as Jerry is ,and we know he is as a business man,and after hearing the fans calling for him to step down as GM, and as other players on all these sports shows say that he's the problem as the GM, and as all the sports media is calling him to step down, I'm very surprised that it hasn't come to his attention that they may have something there, He's not the man for the job ,and the last ten years or so has proven it .

Who ,besides himself is saying he's doing a good job as GM?

Is his ego that big, as to hurt the Team that he supposedly loves?

Again, I' really confused.



Hey Jerry,

IT"S TIME TO GO OUT AND BUY A SADDLE.:cool:

ego. jerry has a huge ego and successful people like him all do. the problem is his dual role, much like Garrett. he is the GM and he is the businessman. at the end of the day, the businessman trumps the GM, because its all about the money. so a lot of his decisions are business based as opposed to football based.
 
visionary;4817425 said:
let me take this very very low bar you have set for GMs and ask you to clarify even that

give me the names of 3 NFL teams that would fire their GM AND HIRE JERRY as their GM

if you cant name such teams, when you say "he is not the worst GM" that is clearly not true

Well which is it? This team has a great group of core players or the GM has done such a horrible job acquiring talent that their only saving grace is the incredible coaching job Jason Garrett has done.

You don't get to have it both ways.

Oh, as for the three teams.

Carolina - just fired their GM, and the gm has done nothing, other than draft Cam and Kuechly for several seasons... well he has paid out several million to RBs.

Kansas City - Scott Pioli has nearly killed this franchise.

Cleveland - Holmgren was recently relieved of his duties as GM. His reign was nearly as bad as Matt Millen with Detroit.
 
Kaika;4816578 said:
Now as intelligent as Jerry is ,and we know he is as a business man,and after hearing the fans calling for him to step down as GM, and as other players on all these sports shows say that he's the problem as the GM, and as all the sports media is calling him to step down, I'm very surprised that it hasn't come to his attention that they may have something there, He's not the man for the job ,and the last ten years or so has proven it .

Who ,besides himself is saying he's doing a good job as GM?

Is his ego that big, as to hurt the Team that he supposedly loves?

Again, I' really confused.



Hey Jerry,

IT"S TIME TO GO OUT AND BUY A SADDLE.
:cool:


For the same reasons that every other business in the world, the workers call for the head of the company, owner, CEO or whatever. As they think they know more and better than that person at the top does.

In reality, not many do know better, nor will they ever step down. Even if it is true. It won't happen, so this is just another JJ thread for people to vent basically.....:laugh2:

Not saying JJ knows better.....but he knows better and more about football than most people posting....
 
MizzouCowboy;4817475 said:
Well which is it? This team has a great group of core players or the GM has done such a horrible job acquiring talent that their only saving grace is the incredible coaching job Jason Garrett has done.

You don't get to have it both ways.

Oh, as for the three teams.

Carolina - just fired their GM, and the gm has done nothing, other than draft Cam and Kuechly for several seasons... well he has paid out several million to RBs.

Kansas City - Scott Pioli has nearly killed this franchise.

Cleveland - Holmgren was recently relieved of his duties as GM. His reign was nearly as bad as Matt Millen with Detroit.

This was the question and you didn't answer it, "give me the names of 3 NFL teams that would fire their GM AND HIRE JERRY as their GM".
 

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