I'm happy Vinny Testaverde was a Cowboy.

[StevenOtero]

Some people's only purpose on this forum is to BASH. Whether its makes them look like a complete idiot or not... they will find a way to bash someone or something.

Yeah, people really need to read a whole post. Before they start talking crap and trying to make a point.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Funny some people have for a long time argued that Romo and/or Henson were being groomed. Part of grooming a QB comes from watching the starter.
How they prepare, how they lead, how they handel the pressure of the job.

Do you think that Romo was learning from Carter or Hutch?

no he learned from Vinny, who just took a commanding lead with the offense and led us to so many victories... LOL

 

[Dave_in-NC]

no he learned from Vinny, who just took a commanding lead with the offense and led us to so many victories... LOL

Can you not read? Comprehension the problem? Theres more to football than what takes place on the field.

 

[wileedog]

Frankly I'm glad Vinny was on the team and I don't have a problem that Bledsoe was signed. For the most part they were about the best you are going to get in the free agent QB market, and they held the fort down while Romo was groomed the way an undrafted FA from a small school needed to be groomed.

No, neither will go into Cowboy lore as anything other than what they were - stopgaps. But I put them above the Great False Hopes such as Quincy or Hutch.

 

[Aikbach]

The way Tony talks about him it is as if he considers him his Norv Turner.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

because you wouldnt have said that crap had BP not said Romo is thankful for Vinny

Well... yeah... wasnt that the reason he started the thread? I dont think he denies that

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

no he learned from Vinny, who just took a commanding lead with the offense and led us to so many victories... LOL

Can you not read? Comprehension the problem? Theres more to football than what takes place on the field.

Right on point Dave.

Its not the knowledge that is powerful... its the execution of the knowledge

Vinny had the knowledge but didnt execute all that well.
Romo gets that knoweldge free and he gets a chance to execute it better.

 

[windward]

Frankly I'm glad Vinny was on the team and I don't have a problem that Bledsoe was signed. For the most part they were about the best you are going to get in the free agent QB market, and they held the fort down while Romo was groomed the way an undrafted FA from a small school needed to be groomed.

No, neither will go into Cowboy lore as anything other than what they were - stopgaps. But I put them above the Great False Hopes such as Quincy or Hutch.

On the field accomplishments are one thing and are something to be cherished by every fan. those memories for Vinny and Drew are relatively few and they were stopgaps at best.

Another part I relish as a fan is the work done behind the scenes to make the on field success possible. In this respect, I think Vinny was invaluable.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Can you not read? Comprehension the problem? Theres more to football than what takes place on the field.

yeah Vinny had so much knowledge of the game, it baffled defenders; they didnt know how to stop him

 

[windward]

Well... yeah... wasnt that the reason he started the thread? I dont think he denies that

I think Darren Woodson is stuck in a loop on how ineffective Vinny was a sour QB(something no one here really denies) and no amount of reason or logic can sway him.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

yeah Vinny had so much knowledge of the game, it baffled defenders; they didnt know how to stop him

I have news for you he did have a vast knowledge of the game. I never said he could translate that knowledge into being a probowler. Maybe you should get some football knowledge of your own.

 

[wileedog]

Another part I relish as a fan is the work done behind the scenes to make the on field success possible. In this respect, I think Vinny was invaluable.

I think Romo would be the first to say that both were invaluable to him in helping him to develop.

If nothing else Romo now knows how to be benched with class when he's 36

 

[LaTunaNostra]

After Parcells comments today, we got a little more insight to the benefits brought by Vinny in his year here. Granted 6-10 on the field won't make any one go crazy. As a player, Vinny was running on fumes at age 41.

The lasting legacy he may leave was in his mentoring of Tony Romo (I think Vinny may be a great QB coach if he so desired) In terms of game preparation and just what it takes to be a quarterback in this league. Romo certainly would not have received the same quality of mentoring from Quincy (much due to Vinny's vast experience in the league.) I heard about Vinny's unselfish tutoring of Chad Pennington even after he was benched in the middle of the 2002 season. I think he played the same role here

I know Vinny's not the most popular guy here, but he served his purpose, albeit in a way not readily visible to most of us fans.

Thank you, Vinny.

I think it is easy to forget the difficult situation VT faced here in 04.

He was suited to be the ideal backup, but Quincy's character issues thrust the starting job on him. He had to deal with the acrimony of fans who wanted to see Henson play..he was viewed as standing in the way of the development of the 'future'.

Always a class act, he was booed mercilessly for circumstances beyond his control. Once both his deep threat (TG) and his tailback (JJ) got hurt, he was the epitome of the sitting duck. And had the D played as well as it had in 03, he may have had a shot at success.

Granted, Vin was pretty much washed up when Bill brought him in. But younger and better qbs would also have stumbled within the set of circumstances VT faced. I think the critical losses that year were JJ and Terry - Vinny was developing chemistry with TG, and tho Jason and Key picked up a lot of the slack, and Patrick played well, it just wasn't enough.

I felt really bad for him. He never should have been lured to Dallas and Bill just didn't have a stout enough bus for him to drive.

But thru it all, VT was class. Nurturing Romo (and I suspect Henson) as he did Chad Pennington and Ray Lucas in NY. It would have been great if VT could have played the role of vet backup qb on a playoff team..that's what he thought he was getting into when he signed on.

 

[windward]

I think it is easy to forget the difficult situation VT faced here in 04.

He was suited to be the ideal backup, but Quincy's character issues thrust the starting job on him. He had to deal with the acrimony of fans who wanted to see Henson play..he was viewed as standing in the way of the development of the 'future'.

Always a class act, he was booed mercilessly for circumstances beyond his control. Once both his deep threat (TG) and his tailback (JJ) got hurt, he was the epitome of the sitting duck. And had the D played as well as it had in 03, he may have had a shot at success.

Granted, Vin was pretty much washed up when Bill brought him in. But younger and better qbs would also have stumbled within the set of circumstances VT faced. I think the critical losses that year were JJ and Terry - Vinny was developing chemistry with TG, and tho Jason and Key picked up a lot of the slack, and Patrick played well, it just wasn't enough.

I felt really bad for him. He never should have been lured to Dallas and Bill just didn't have a stout enough bus for him to drive.

But thru it all, VT was class. Nurturing Romo (and I suspect Henson) as he did Chad Pennington and Ray Lucas in NY. It would have been great if VT could have played the role of vet backup qb on a playoff team..that's what he thought he was getting into when he signed on.

Great post. Our D was downright awful that year with Lynn Scott and Lance Frazier at the corners. Leonardo Carson at DT? Vinny was in a bad situation as well and was not soley responsible for the struggles in 2004.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I think it is easy to forget the difficult situation VT faced here in 04.

He was suited to be the ideal backup, but Quincy's character issues thrust the starting job on him. He had to deal with the acrimony of fans who wanted to see Henson play..he was viewed as standing in the way of the development of the 'future'.

Always a class act, he was booed mercilessly for circumstances beyond his control. Once both his deep threat (TG) and his tailback (JJ) got hurt, he was the epitome of the sitting duck. And had the D played as well as it had in 03, he may have had a shot at success.

Granted, Vin was pretty much washed up when Bill brought him in. But younger and better qbs would also have stumbled within the set of circumstances VT faced. I think the critical losses that year were JJ and Terry - Vinny was developing chemistry with TG, and tho Jason and Key picked up a lot of the slack, and Patrick played well, it just wasn't enough.

I felt really bad for him. He never should have been lured to Dallas and Bill just didn't have a stout enough bus for him to drive.

But thru it all, VT was class. Nurturing Romo (and I suspect Henson) as he did Chad Pennington and Ray Lucas in NY. It would have been great if VT could have played the role of vet backup qb on a playoff team..that's what he thought he was getting into when he signed on.

Nice. I had forgotten how bad he was treated. Shamefull.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

I have news for you he did have a vast knowledge of the game. I never said he could translate that knowledge into being a probowler. Maybe you should get some football knowledge of your own.

its so ridiculous, NO ONE was EVER giving Vinny credit for anything while he was in Dallas because he was terrible, but after today all of a sudden Vinny became "invaluable" to Dallas.

yet 2 years ago Dallas fans as a whole were calling for his head/booing even worse than Drew's booing and couldnt wait for him to take "his knowledge of the game" and shove it up his you know what and the get the heck outa here.

dont tell me that you have been thinking Vinny has been a part of Romos success to prepare for games until today, lol thats bull

 

[Dave_in-NC]

its so ridiculous, NO ONE was EVER giving Vinny credit for anything while he was in Dallas because he was terrible, but after today all of a sudden Vinny became "invaluable" to Dallas.

yet 2 years ago Dallas fans as a whole were calling for his head/booing even worse than Drew's booing and couldnt wait for him to take "his knowledge of the game" and shove it up his you know what and the get the heck outa here.

dont tell me that you have been thinking Vinny has been a part of Romos success to prepare for games until today, lol thats bull

Like I said you either can't read or can't comprehend. Did I think much about were Romo was getting his knowledge from before today? Nope. Did I think about it after it was said today? Yup. It seems to make sense to every one but YOU. Romo himself is crediting VT for helping him and Parcells is crediting VT for helping Romo. Excuse me if I value their opinions over some guy on a forum. Have a good night.

 

[Jimz31]

I think the person that MAY have had the most impact was Sean Payton.

 

[windward]

its so ridiculous, NO ONE was EVER giving Vinny credit for anything while he was in Dallas because he was terrible, but after today all of a sudden Vinny became "invaluable" to Dallas.

yet 2 years ago Dallas fans as a whole were calling for his head/booing even worse than Drew's booing and couldnt wait for him to take "his knowledge of the game" and shove it up his you know what and the get the heck outa here.

dont tell me that you have been thinking Vinny has been a part of Romos success to prepare for games until today, lol thats bull

that's just not true. By the end of 2004 very few wanted Vinny as our starting QB. That does not mean he did not serve a purpose here as a mentor. I've always felt that way about Vinny's tenure here and if you even took a moment to comprehend what I wrote, you would see that BP's comments reinforced what I suspected already for a while.

But hey,continue to be your little ol' presumptive self and get owned in this thread. I don't mind at all.

 

[windward]

I think the person that MAY have had the most impact was Sean Payton.

Payton as well. I just think Vinny's role until today has been a bit under valued