I'm Major Jealous of the Titans Interior Olinemen

[DFWJC]

I thought Jerry wanted Kenny Vaccaro and when the Saints picked him, he decided to trade down?

All unsupported bs.

Unlike the line prospects, there were plenty of good safety prospects later in the draft.

 

[Hoofbite]

I like that some people have taken "I love the Titans interior line" and turned it to "I love the Titans entire team and they are better than the Cowboys in every conceivable way.", just so they can't have some kind of reply that doesn't acknowledge that yes, the Titans having the makings of a good interior line.

It is a bit interesting. Nobody said that the Titans were gonna rule the world but somehow it appears that some have taken it that way as well.

They put together what looks like a very strong interior OL of the future and they did it in 3 months.

Dallas has addressed 1 interior OL spot with Frederick even though the interior OL has been a wreck for the last 3 years.

I'm kind of jealous myself. Doesn't mean I'm buying a Titans jersey.

 

[Hoofbite]

Even putting aside Locker's problems, their defense was 32nd in the NFL in points allowed (almost 30 points per game!!) and then they put most of their resources into the interior OL. :laugh2: :laugh2: This is what happens when you hand the keys of your organization over to an ex-Offensive lineman. Oh well, at least Munchak gets one year with his beloved vanity pet project OL before he's fired next offseason.

They were dead last in time of possession. If they can balance out the time of possession a little more the defense won't need to be on the field as much.

The entire team is a mess so they're rebuilding.

I sure some here at CZ think they're going to contend for a Superbowl and "win in teh trenchez!!" because they have two guards with names they recognize.

I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I'd be shocked if anyone thought that.

 

[HanD]

It is a bit interesting. Nobody said that the Titans were gonna rule the world but somehow it appears that some have taken it that way as well.

They put together what looks like a very strong interior OL of the future and they did it in 3 months.

Dallas has addressed 1 interior OL spot with Frederick even though the interior OL has been a wreck for the last 3 years.

I'm kind of jealous myself. Doesn't mean I'm buying a Titans jersey.

Going deep at offensive line means your going to go deep into the playoffs. This team will have an amazing running game.

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[HanD]

I like that some people have taken "I love the Titans interior line" and turned it to "I love the Titans entire team and they are better than the Cowboys in every conceivable way.", just so they can't have some kind of reply that doesn't acknowledge that yes, the Titans having the makings of a good interior line.

teams allocate different amounts of money and draft picks to balance their team and have the best team possible. if you want to cherry pick the interior OL, it's natural to compare the rest of the offense to see where each team has allocated its resources and which unit as a whole you would rather have. otherwise, we could go team by team and say that X teams in the nfl have a better "insert interior OL or whatever unit you want" compared to dallas and jerry should hang picture of said unit on his wall for almost every position imaginable.

 

[Hoofbite]

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I guess I shouldn't throw out blanket statements that don't account for the random few who always blow them up.

Perhaps I should have said 99.99% of the people you would ask wouldn't pick the Titans to rule the world.

My bad. Next time I'll put a caveat in there to account for the crazy.

Bottom line, it's not widely accepted the Titans will be grand. Not sure why some posters took it that way.

 

[Ultimategamer5567]

This isn't 1965 or even 1995 when you had to run the ball. Time to climb out of the stone age Dr. Cliche.

It's about keeping your QB off the ground and off the sidelines. One would think after three straight years of our QB having some form of injury you would "get it". We've been lucky he hasn't been hurt worse given how bad the line play has been at times.

 

[Vintage]

Even putting aside Locker's problems, their defense was 32nd in the NFL in points allowed (almost 30 points per game!!) and then they put most of their resources into the interior OL. :laugh2: :laugh2: This is what happens when you hand the keys of your organization over to an ex-Offensive lineman. Oh well, at least Munchak gets one year with his beloved vanity pet project OL before he's fired next offseason.

I sure some here at CZ think they're going to contend for a Superbowl and "win in teh trenchez!!" because they have two guards with names they recognize.

You also forgot the importance of the fabled tub of goo on the DL.

I am not sure if that is more important than OGs. I suspect that would make for an interesting debate.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

teams allocate different amounts of money and draft picks to balance their team and have the best team possible. if you want to cherry pick the interior OL, it's natural to compare the rest of the offense to see where each team has allocated its resources and which unit as a whole you would rather have. otherwise, we could go team by team and say that X teams in the nfl have a better "insert interior OL or whatever unit you want" compared to dallas and jerry should hang picture of said unit on his wall for almost every position imaginable.

Strategically weighting some positions higher than others is part of the game. Devaluing a position group to the point that it becomes your perrenial achilles heel is simply gross mismanagement.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Watch that Titans Waiver Wire on Olinemen.

 

[HanD]

Strategically weighting some positions higher than others is part of the game. Devaluing a position group to the point that it becomes your perrenial achilles heel is simply gross mismanagement.

please read before writing. i agree that we need more resources dedicated to OL and never said otherwise. the post was that it is valid to compare a total offense if someone wants to cherry pick a unit from that offense. another said titans were going deep based on their OL. my stance is while i want more dedicated to the OL, i wouldn't think about taking our offense as a whole over Tenn and am pretty sure they aren't in for a huge year based on their OL.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

please read before writing. i agree that we need more resources dedicated to OL and never said otherwise. the post was that it is valid to compare a total offense if someone wants to cherry pick a unit from that offense. another said titans were going deep based on their OL. my stance is while i want more dedicated to the OL, i wouldn't think about taking our offense as a whole over Tenn and am pretty sure they aren't in for a huge year based on their OL.

Please try to consider the real argument being made rather than sidestepping and arguing shallow points. Having solid skill positions but marginalizing your trenches produces a fatally flawed team. The Titans are demonstrating real respect for a key component that we have historically minimized. Your argument implies our approach is valid when history shows it is not.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Please try to consider the real argument being made rather than sidestepping and arguing shallow points. Having solid skill positions but marginalizing your trenches produces a fatally flawed team. The Titans are demonstrating real respect for a key component that we have historically minimized. Your argument implies our approach is valid when history shows it is not.

I never knew spending $20 mil on Marco Rivera, $50 mil on Bigg Davis, $15 mil on Kyle Kosier, $30 mil between Livings and Bern, signing Free for a $32 mil and spending two out the last three first round draft picks on the offensive line was minimizing that part of the team..

Who knew?

 

[burmafrd]

I never knew spending $20 mil on Marco Rivera, $50 mil on Bigg Davis, $15 mil on Kyle Kosier, $30 mil between Livings and Bern, signing Free for a $32 mil and spending two out the last three first round draft picks on the offensive line was minimizing that part of the team..

Who knew?

not surprising you miss the point.

but then again you are one that never realized how important the O line is

And that was funny about your claims.

Each one of those (with the exception of Free) was DIRECTLY due to failure to adequately DRAFT O LINE.

And before you try and claim that enough resources have been spent on the O line you need to be reminded of one simple FACT

Resources are only adequate if they produce results

 

[MichaelWinicki]

not surprising you miss the point.

but then again you are one that never realized how important the O line is

And that was funny about your claims.

Each one of those (with the exception of Free) was DIRECTLY due to failure to adequately DRAFT O LINE.

And before you try and claim that enough resources have been spent on the O line you need to be reminded of one simple FACT

Resources are only adequate if they produce results

There's a big difference between not swinging, and swinging and missing.

To say they haven't attempted to stabilize the position over the years is clearly wrong.

Resources are only adequate if they produce results... I just roll my eyes at that gem.

You have 7 drafts picks (approximately) per year, you have 22 starters plus numerous other roster spots that potentially need an influx of talent every given season.

The math doesn't quite work does it?

 

[ElGatoGrande]

There's a big difference between not swinging, and swinging and missing.

To say they haven't attempted to stabilize the position over the years is clearly wrong.

The difference is in what you're swinging. Don't walk up to the plate with a plastic Flintstone bat, ground out every time then tell everybody "well at least I swung, isn't that enough?"

No Virginia, that isn't enough, low draft picks and signing luke-warm bodies that have tanked elsewhere isn't sufficient. How we can continue to have this argument every year for the past half-dozen years is mind-boggling,,, how many arses can you possibly have handed to you? :

Even Jerry finally caved in after the public brow-beating and used one of his high picks for OL,,, sign of a new trend? Maybe, maybe not,,, the fact that he left our worst position unchanged is disconcerting.

 

[Longboysfan]

I'd take our guys and Tony Romo over those guys and Jake Locker.

Yes. to this.

 

[burmafrd]

There's a big difference between not swinging, and swinging and missing.

To say they haven't attempted to stabilize the position over the years is clearly wrong.

Resources are only adequate if they produce results... I just roll my eyes at that gem.

You have 7 drafts picks (approximately) per year, you have 22 starters plus numerous other roster spots that potentially need an influx of talent every given season.

The math doesn't quite work does it?

for someone clearly happy with mediocrity it apparently is for you

Now how dumb is it to say that a consistent failure means you have put in sufficient resources?

 

[burmafrd]

Yes. to this.

and that is how you get 8-8

ignore the O line is only a symptom of a systemic failure

 

[xwalker]

Even Jerry finally caved in after the public brow-beating and used one of his high picks for OL,,, sign of a new trend? Maybe, maybe not,,, the fact that he left our worst position unchanged is disconcerting.

Are you referring to the 1st or 2nd time in 3 years that they drafted OL in the 1st round?