I'm not saying Dak is better than Mahomes

[ESisback]

Ah... censorship. I see how it is.

Kinda like the “enlightened” elite in Hollyweird, eh?

 

[Hoofbite]

Gimme points over yards. Mahomes wins, and that comparison isn't even close.

 

[BobSacamano]

Ah... censorship. I see how it is.

Ha. If anyone needs to be censored, it’s BrokebackmountaineerCowboy.

 

[Havic]

Because our team is constantly playing from behind.

 

[Typhus]

I like Dak i think hes a franchise qb and when we win #6 i think he'll be the qb to do it

but Mahomes is better and its not even close even close Mahomes is Jordan in his prime game 6 to close out the series

Nobody wants to admit that but its the honest truth.

 

[Ken]

If Dak played in the Chiefs division he might not have any 400 plus yard games. You also have to look at how Dak and Mahomes perform in playoff games. Big difference!

LOL.

Fun fact..

2 of Dak's 9 400 yard games came against the NFC East.

3 of Pat's 6 came against the NFC West.

Dak almost had 400 against the raiders this year without his top two wrs.

Carry on.

 

[Typhus]

Ah... censorship. I see how it is.

Blow that whistle, go ahead..

 

[khiladi]

LOL..

you should see the teams they actually played. One of them was the GB game in 2019, when he threw 2 TDs and 3 INTs and got blown out 27-44. Another was a win against a hapless Detroit, which was sandwiched between 4 losses where he was literally the biggest liability on the field. In 2018, his only 400 yard game of the season is when Amari caught to ball for a tune of 200 plus yards against single coverage with safeties sitting on the routes and Amari had to yell at Dak to throw it on go routes. Then there was the Atlanta choke job, where Atlanta just forgot to learn how to fall on an onside kick.

 

[Yobwocs]

LOL..

you should see the teams they actually played. One of them was the GB game in 2019, when he threw 2 TDs and 3 INTs and got blown out 27-44. Another was a win against a hapless Detroit, which was sandwiched between 4 losses where he was literally the biggest liability on the field. In 2018, his only 400 yard game of the season is when Amari caught to ball for a tune of 200 plus yards against single coverage with safeties sitting on the routes and Amari had to yell at Dak to throw it on go routes. Then there was the Atlanta choke job, where Atlanta just forgot to learn how to fall on an onside kick.

it's not a fluke anymore when he consistently put up monster stats. There's 1 fluke game (Green Bay), but you can't seek to discredit every one of his 9 outings with some explanation, or another.

 

[khiladi]

What did KC do with the WRs before Mahomes started? Dak is closer to Alex Smith than he is Mahomes. Stop this nonsense, with Mr. Slow Release, heavy running, 1 read QB that can’t throw against zone coverage to save his life and needs a top flight OL and RG to keep getting him man looks.

 

[khiladi]

it's not a fluke anymore when he consistently put up monster stats. There's 1 fluke game (Green Bay), but you can't seek to discredit every one of his 9 outings with some explanation, or another.

I just gave an explanation of multiple games. The guy will put up 400 against garbage teams like Detroit in between some of the worst football a QB plays for 5 game stretches.

He’s been getting away with it, because his OL and RG has been giving him more man looks than any QB in the league. If his RG is shot, he literally looks like one of the worst QBs in the league.

 

[DonaldM]

9 points vs Tampa in a Superbowl. Lmao. Dak would have scored more by himself. Defense wins championships.

 

[Praxit]

.....Dak, will get us there. But we need consistency from both sides. OL fared well at start, then declined as season progressed.

 

[khiladi]

9 points vs Tampa in a Superbowl. Lmao. Dak would have scored more by himself. Defense wins championships.

Where has Dak gotten this team? Dude has been to 2 SBs, should have been 3 in his first full season startinh but Brady got the ball last. How many SBs or championship games has Dak gotten too?

 

[Yobwocs]

Where has Dak gotten this team? Dude has been to 2 SBs, should have been 3 in his first full season startinh but Brady got the ball last. How many SBs or championship games has Dak gotten too?

Rodgers got the ball last vs us in 2016 otherwise that team could get to a Super Bowl! We can do this all day man. You're the only one getting riled up here lol

 

[khiladi]

Rodgers got the ball last vs us in 2016 otherwise that team could get to a Super Bowl! We can do this all day man, lol! You're the only one getting riled up here lol

That GB defense was allowing 400 plus yards in multiple games going into the playoffs, had third string CBs off the street and got walloped by Atlanta the next week and we were playing at home..

Aaron Rodgers carried that hobbled GB team into the playoffs while that defense sucked and nobody expected that GB team to even make the playoffs midway through the season.

Riled up? Dak hasn’t won anything.. Mahomes has multiple Sb appearances and AFC championship games.

that team definitely could have gotten to the SB of Romo was staring with that All pro OL and RG. But then we decided to start the guy who completely sucked and took a week to throw a TD in training camp in year 3.

 

[gimmesix]

Point 1: Mahomes played in 73 games, Dak only 56 and Dak still has him beat in 400 yard games.

Point 2: Mahomes has a god-like receiving unit. Dak has a very good receiving unit but it doesn't compare to Mahomes'. Kelce + Hill > by far anyone we got. Cowboys are receivers by committee. Chiefs have a receiving unit that have been proven unstoppable by 31 teams.

Point 3: Wins are a team accomplishment, so Mahomes didn't win those games on his own.


Again, Mahomes > Dak overall because of his Super Bowl and his postseason accomplishments, but lots of his games are simply because Chiefs are good enough to jump ahead and beat teams without Mahomes needing to do much. Cowboys has a bad defense most of the times, 0 dominant D-linemen, a used up starting running back, and an O-Line that blew the SF playoff game badly. Mahomes O-Line was horrendous in the Super Bowl, but at least they chose the last game of the year to be bad in.


Thoughts?

This is about as bad as using team wins as a way to judge a quarterback. There are reasons that quarterbacks pass for 400 yards and they are usually not good. Things like lack of a running game, having to score a lot of points to keep up, etc. It's good to know that Dak can throw for 400 yards when needed, but you'd really have to assess why he had to throw for 400 yards nine times while Mahomes only has had to do it six.

 

[Ken]

LOL..

you should see the teams they actually played. One of them was the GB game in 2019, when he threw 2 TDs and 3 INTs and got blown out 27-44. Another was a win against a hapless Detroit, which was sandwiched between 4 losses where he was literally the biggest liability on the field. In 2018, his only 400 yard game of the season is when Amari caught to ball for a tune of 200 plus yards against single coverage with safeties sitting on the routes and Amari had to yell at Dak to throw it on go routes. Then there was the Atlanta choke job, where Atlanta just forgot to learn how to fall on an onside kick.

This isn't the flex you think it is.

That GB team was 13-3.
So he did what he was supposed to do against Detroit, got it.
So throwing the ball to Amari is now frowned upon? Got it.
How is Atlanta's ineptitude a knock on Dak snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?

You neglected to mention the 400 yard game last year where he should have beat the World Champ Bucs on the road but got screwed with no time left by the refs. Also forgot the 445 against a playoff NE on the road last year. The 500 against an 11-5 Browns team.


(I won't say anything about Mahomes throwing for 400 vs the 2-14 Jets)

 

[khiladi]

This isn't the flex you think it is.

That GB team was 13-3.
So he did what he was supposed to do against Detroit, got it.
So throwing the ball to Amari is now frowned upon? Got it.
How is Atlanta's ineptitude a knock on Dak snatching victory from the jaws of defeat?

You neglected to mention the 400 yard game last year where he should have beat the World Champ Bucs on the road but got screwed with no time left by the refs. Also forgot the 445 against a playoff NE on the road last year. The 500 against an 11-5 Browns team.


(I won't say anything about Mahomes throwing for 400 vs the 2-14 Jets)

Wow, what a flex.. so the GB game of 400 yards demonstrated what exactly, since they were getting blown out and Dak was chucking INTs and GB was playing soft.. Detroit was sandwiched in between some of the worst football by a QB for 5 games. Dak didn’t snatch anything against Atlanta. Atlanta played time and decided not to fall on the football and proceeded to blow an even greater 4th quarter lead the next week against a worse opponent. Amari basically was wide open and Dak couldn’t see it until Amari yelled at him and Dak continued to suck against zone and couldn’t even score a point against the Colts..

Don’t even get me started on the Browns where Dak was staring down WRs all day and LBs dropped about 6 picks and were jumping routes and didn’t drop the final pick either, which was another one of Daks stare down routes he was doing all day..

a bunch of useless stats against garbage teams and a random game here abd there against man coverage in TB where they were giving Amari the sideline routes all day and then Dak couldn’t find Amari all season long after that and they made him the scapegoat.

 

[irishline]

Dak haters hate facts. Be prepared for a lot of topics unrelated to what you are focused on here.

Jamesis Winston is one of 10 quarterbacks to throw for 5,000 yards in a season. What exactly does that fact mean?

I'm not against Dak but facts don't always tell a story. That is unless you think Winston is as good as or better than 8 other hall of fame or to be hall of fame quarterbacks (the 10th was Herbert last year) because he threw for 5,000 yards.