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I went on the record before the draft stating that the Cowboys were 1 good draft away from competing deep into the playoffs. I felt that the offense was good enough as it stands, only needing some depth at both the offensive line and WR positions.

Check on those needs. Martin was a dream pick for me because I put heavy value on being able to run the football effectively. This pick helps out that ability tremendously in my opinion. If it pans out as believed, the coaches are going to feel more confident running the ball in those situations that call for it. It will help out the defense as well by limiting the time the opposing offense has the ball.

As for the defense, I felt like we needed to have a great draft defensively. I liked the Lawrence pick because he was one of the only DE’s in the draft that has the talent to be an effective starting “rushmen”. Unlike most, I had no problem trading a 3rd for the player. The Cowboys admittedly overpaid value wise, but if he’s what the scouts say he is, then it will be a worthwhile trade given the circumstances of the team as it now stands.

If you’ve been paying even semi-close attention the last couple of years, you’ve noticed that the Cowboys have found some nice talent amongst its UDFA’s, and off the street pickups. I hope this continues with the Hitchens pick. Don’t know a lot about him but obviously the scouts and coaches like him enough to draft him in the 4th.

Loved the Gardner pick. I think he’s a mid-round talent that we got for a 7th. I think he’ll stick. If we can hit on some of those 7th rounder’s and UDFA’s, and I have to believe that 2-3 will stick, then the defensive side of the ball should play better this year. Need some injury luck as well.

Overall, I think the Cowboys did what they needed to do to have a chance this year. I’ve been very discouraged with Jones and how he performs his GM duties. But I have to admit, the last year he’s shown me that maybe he’s starting to listen to the folks that know football talent and it’s the scouts and coaches and not him.
 

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Love your outlook on the team. Let's not run for shelter until the sky starts falling:) This is definetly not the same old same old. I loved when the draft pick, Demarcus Lawrence used the term Jerry's World and how he he was going to put on a show for the fans and the world in that stadium. And when asked about how he's going to replace Ware (with the same name), he said "out with the old and in with the new". Love that swag!
 

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As everyone should be the week after the draft. If there was ever a time for optimism, its definitely now, with the excitement of all the new players we get to hear and read about now.
 

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I'm not optimistic about our upcoming season but we made some good football moves.


I disagree about the Lawrence pick. I don't know if he will be good or not but we paid wayyyy too much and may have to pay even more in the first round next year if he doesn't look like a player.

Then we come back in the 4th and draft a backup for Sean Lee.


I feel like we could've done a lot better for ourselves in the middle part of the draft.
 

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Very nice OP.
I think there will a mixed bag of opinions throughout the season on Lawrence, and giving up the 3rd round. Even if he plays well, and as expected. People will always question it, or give the we could have got thses players instead. And that's ok. I am still wondering about it myself, but will wait and see. Not going to be critical nor jubilated over it, yet.

I think to some it depends on the 7th round guys too. If several of them can make the team and contribute, or even start, like Gardner. Then it may, MAY, ease the fact we gave up a 3rd to get Lawrence..
 

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As everyone should be the week after the draft. If there was ever a time for optimism, its definitely now, with the excitement of all the new players we get to hear and read about now.

Yes, everyteam and most of their fans have on rose color glasses right now. It's typical. After the draft and free agency, players are healthy, or expected to soon be by TC.
Even the Browns and Jaguars and Texans all feel great right now.
 

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I'm not optimistic about our upcoming season but we made some good football moves.


I disagree about the Lawrence pick. I don't know if he will be good or not but we paid wayyyy too much and may have to pay even more in the first round next year if he doesn't look like a player.

Then we come back in the 4th and draft a backup for Sean Lee.


I feel like we could've done a lot better for ourselves in the middle part of the draft.

Hitchen's will start on special teams and the hope is for him to have a major impact. That's the 3rd part of the team along with defense and offense.
 

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Very nice OP.
I think there will a mixed bag of opinions throughout the season on Lawrence, and giving up the 3rd round. Even if he plays well, and as expected. People will always question it, or give the we could have got thses players instead. And that's ok. I am still wondering about it myself, but will wait and see. Not going to be critical nor jubilated over it, yet.

I think to some it depends on the 7th round guys too. If several of them can make the team and contribute, or even start, like Gardner. Then it may, MAY, ease the fact we gave up a 3rd to get Lawrence..


The thing is that the Cowboys even said that they had him rated as a 2nd rounder so why give up all of those picks?


We should've just let the draft come to us. We aren't a pass rusher away from winning anything and if we were so desperate then i'm sure there are veteran players out there that we could've traded a pick for to help us with our pass rush.

If not then that is fine too.
 

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Hitchen's will start on special teams and the hope is for him to have a major impact. That's the 3rd part of the team along with defense and offense.

I wish I could buy that but we should never be looking for special teams guys until about the 6th round. Especially when you lack the depth that we do and also after just giving away a 3rd rounder.

Until some of these Cowboys day 2 and 3 head scratchers start doing something on the field then I will not give them the benefit of the doubt.
 

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The thing is that the Cowboys even said that they had him rated as a 2nd rounder so why give up all of those picks?


We should've just let the draft come to us. We aren't a pass rusher away from winning anything and if we were so desperate then i'm sure there are veteran players out there that we could've traded a pick for to help us with our pass rush.

If not then that is fine too.


Oh I agree, but I'll hold off judgement too.
What doesn't make since, they supposedly wanted Shazier, and waited on him in the 1st round. Only to see the Steelers take him. Why not give up that 3rd, and a 7th, to go get him then.
But they couldn't wait on Lawrence to see if he dropped a little more, or just as you said, let the draft come to them.
 

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Ya'll do this every year
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They got me for the last time last pre-season, I'll wait and see if this is a different team.
 

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I wish I could buy that but we should never be looking for special teams guys until about the 6th round. Especially when you lack the depth that we do and also after just giving away a 3rd rounder.

Until some of these Cowboys day 2 and 3 head scratchers start doing something on the field then I will not give them the benefit of the doubt.

Your ignoring the recent success the Cowboys have had with UDFA's and pick ups off the street. Arguably, one of the better teams in the NFL at doing this. Also, special teams are 1/3 of the equation. You can't ignore the special teams. I think they also feel Hitchens can be a starter eventually on defense as well.
 

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Your ignoring the recent success the Cowboys have had with UDFA's and pick ups off the street. Arguably, one of the better teams in the NFL at doing this. Also, special teams are 1/3 of the equation. You can't ignore the special teams. I think they also feel Hitchens can be a starter eventually on defense as well.

Norm Hitges made a comment this morning. Said if Carter struggles, Hitchens can replace Carter on that side, and Carter moves to the other side, or is a backup.
Or that could be part of the thinknig if Hitchens looks to pan out.

But I'll throw Holloman into that mix too.
 

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I don't understand how anyone could be optimistic AFTER the draft and not prior to it. I can understand someone not being optimistic before the draft and feeling the same way. But the success of this team will not be because of our rookies this year. That's just how it is. Its going to depend on our past drafts.
 

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I don't understand how anyone could be optimistic AFTER the draft and not prior to it. I can understand someone not being optimistic before the draft and feeling the same way. But the success of this team will not be because of our rookies this year. That's just how it is. Its going to depend on our past drafts.

why does it have to depend on our past drafts? What about our coaches, schemes, free agents?
 
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