I'm optimistic again

[ShiningStar]

Just within the last 12-18 months.

what are these changes that are going to make a difference this time?

 

[Rockport]

I don't understand how anyone could be optimistic AFTER the draft and not prior to it. I can understand someone not being optimistic before the draft and feeling the same way. But the success of this team will not be because of our rookies this year. That's just how it is. Its going to depend on our past drafts.

That's not true at all. The Cowboys were 8-8 last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. With improvements there as well as the offense, there's definitely reason to be optimistic after this draft. That's not even taking into account those players coming off of injury as well as the FA pickups.

 

[Rockport]

Please do tell?

You have to give credit where credit is due. Jerry's made some extremely difficult and smart decisions recently. From the releasing of Ware and Hatcher to bypassing on Manziel just to name a couple.

 

[ShiningStar]

That's not true at all. The Cowboys were 8-8 last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. With improvements there as well as the offense, there's definitely reason to be optimistic after this draft. That's not even taking into account those players coming off of injury as well as the FA pickups.

nor taking into account other teams are getting better. Lets not forget what others are doing.

 

[Rockport]

nor taking into account other teams are getting better. Lets not forget what others are doing.

That's always a given. You just hope your team improves the most.

 

[ShiningStar]

That's always a given. You just hope your team improves the most.

thats the plan to the SB i like to follow. Hope. Thats Garretts new saying "we stacking hope on top of hope for the sake of hoping it works out." I feel better already.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

why does it have to depend on our past drafts? What about our coaches, schemes, free agents?

It has to do with those things as well. But you can't keep trying to live and die by Romo's arm, Dez's back and pray and hope Demarco and Sean Lee are healthy. We all acknowledge this teams "lack of depth" and holes in our starting lineup. But a lot of those positions have youth in them. This is a whole different team if Bruce Carter plays like he did 2 seasons ago. Its a whole different team if Tyrone Crawford is as legit as they believe he is. Its a whole new defense if Claiborne plays up to his 6th overall potential. If JJ Wilcox is a legit free safety? I can do this for a few other positions too.

But yes, coaching and schemes will play a big part in it as well.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's not true at all. The Cowboys were 8-8 last year with the 3rd worst NFL defense of all time. With improvements there as well as the offense, there's definitely reason to be optimistic after this draft. That's not even taking into account those players coming off of injury as well as the FA pickups.

I agree with you. I too am optimistic. Not extremely but I am excited for this season. But I felt that way before the draft. The draft was just the icing on the cake.

 

[ShiningStar]

It has to do with those things as well. But you can't keep trying to live and die by Romo's arm, Dez's back and pray and hope Demarco and Sean Lee are healthy. We all acknowledge this teams "lack of depth" and holes in our starting lineup. But a lot of those positions have youth in them. This is a whole different team if Bruce Carter plays like he did 2 seasons ago. Its a whole different team if Tyrone Crawford is as legit as they believe he is. Its a whole new defense if Claiborne plays up to his 6th overall potential. If JJ Wilcox is a legit free safety? I can do this for a few other positions too.

But yes, coaching and schemes will play a big part in it as well.

i think we can safely say it for most positions. which bears my point, way to much hope to sit here and say "heres the evidence to prove our hard work paid off" we arent there yet. optimisim is one thing and sure have at it. proof of the season and on the field leaves many validated.

 

[Rockport]

thats the plan to the SB i like to follow. Hope. Thats Garretts new saying "we stacking hope on top of hope for the sake of hoping it works out." I feel better already.

From the depths of hell of where we came from, hope is all we got.

 

[Rockport]

i think we can safely say it for most positions. which bears my point, way to much hope to sit here and say "heres the evidence to prove our hard work paid off" we arent there yet. optimisim is one thing and sure have at it. proof of the season and on the field leaves many validated.

It's your right as an American (I assume you are) to be a Debbie Downer.

 

[ShiningStar]

It's your right as an American (I assume you are) to be a Debbie Downer.

its not a right or an opinion, 8-8 8-8 8-8 is solid evidence. hope is just that.

 

[boysfanindc]

its not a right or an opinion, 8-8 8-8 8-8 is solid evidence. hope is just that.

History is only a predictor of the future if nothing changes, now we can argue if things have changed for the better. But personally IMHO it seems the FO is acting differently and has been better the last couple of years, which gives me hope.

 

[OhSnap]

nor taking into account other teams are getting better. Lets not forget what others are doing.

This is the lamest argument to play down any kind of possible improvement in the history of discussion.

 

[ShiningStar]

History is only a predictor of the future if nothing changes, now we can argue if things have changed for the better. But personally IMHO it seems the FO is acting differently and has been better the last couple of years, which gives me hope.

i can agree with that. i find the mentally in the FO a better indicator than just the moves we made. Yes i was happy releasing Ware and Hatcher. No we dont know if the moves we made paid off yet, but the fact the FO has competely changed is the only fact i can look at and say "regardless of what happens; I am happy with this change".

 

[ShiningStar]

This is the lamest argument to play down any kind of possible improvement in the history of discussion.

and surprisingly it works. why, its the truth. I keep hearing if we add this and we do this than that makes our team this much better. Well that doesnt compute that other teams are making improvements as well. So if their improvements havent panned out and ours hasnt panned out yet, than the whole statement doesnt matter because we dont know what will happen to say what we did mattered. But the fact is if you feel your team improved, than you have to accoutn that other teams improved and right now, thats what has happened. Now the course of those imrprovments are going to be shown differently of a team who got better on defense vs who got better on offense. Yes i feel we brought up both sides, but take a team like the Giants and right now there offense has the potential to be even better. We have Dez and some question marks. Cruz and NIcks, (if they keep him) are sure fire facts.

Our biggest problem right now is Garrett, does he change or does he stay teh course. Everything else we do still decides on that fact.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The only reason they were 8-8 is because of the teams they beat. It's a much harder schedule this year. I think they'll probably compete in the NFC East but only because the other teams aren't any better.

 

[ShiningStar]

The only reason they were 8-8 is because of the teams they beat. It's a much harder schedule this year. I think they'll probably compete in the NFC East but only because the other teams aren't any better.

I think the Eagles and GIants are better right now because both organizations know how to fix their problems and when, in sept. and both teams know to be ready by december. This has been greatly advanatagous while we started our SB in september and decided to wait til our problems bit us in the butt in december/ janurary. So to be fair, both those organizations understand how touse their schedule, while Dallas contiues to look at a problem and say "well we can fix around it and hope it works out"

To me, the mental part is paying off for those organizations.

 

[OhSnap]

and surprisingly it works. why, its the truth. I keep hearing if we add this and we do this than that makes our team this much better. Well that doesnt compute that other teams are making improvements as well. So if their improvements havent panned out and ours hasnt panned out yet, than the whole statement doesnt matter because we dont know what will happen to say what we did mattered. But the fact is if you feel your team improved, than you have to accoutn that other teams improved and right now, thats what has happened. Now the course of those imrprovments are going to be shown differently of a team who got better on defense vs who got better on offense. Yes i feel we brought up both sides, but take a team like the Giants and right now there offense has the potential to be even better. We have Dez and some question marks. Cruz and NIcks, (if they keep him) are sure fire facts.

Our biggest problem right now is Garrett, does he change or does he stay teh course. Everything else we do still decides on that fact.

Take a closer look at what your calling "sure fire facts" Victor Cruz 73 catches 998 4 td's H.Nicks 56-896-0td's

Dez Bryant and Terrance Williams have 18 td's between them alone, thats more than the whole giant team had. Are you trolling me?

 

[ShiningStar]

Take a closer look at what your calling "sure fire facts" Victor Cruz 73 catches 998 4 td's H.Nicks 56-896-0td's

Dez Bryant and Terrance Williams have 18 td's between them alone, thats more than the whole giant team had. Are you trolling me?

oh lords, dear lords, let the stats bail us out. Come on, who do you think more defensive coordinators are worried about, containing Dez or letting Williams go free, or wondering how to stop both Cruz and NIcks?

Put the stats aside, put all four on the field with the same qb, and let teh defenisve coordinators tell you which is which, but im going to go with Cruz and Nicks right now.