Imagine if you will Demarcus Ware still on this defensive line

[TellerMorrow34]

Also if you want to look for where you can cut money, instead of from Ware, you could cut Sean Lee's money out because he's hurt all the time.

That would have been hard to do at the time, cut him I mean not predict an injury cause Lee being injured was penciled in from the start, thus the drafting of Hitchens that so many were upset about.

But if you weren't paying Lee the money you are to sit on the bench then you could have kept Ware and been a better defense right now.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Who's to say the OL would be better? Who's to say we even draft OL if Hatcher and Ware is here? Maybe they go defensive linemen to make that side of the ball more dominant. Who's to say we trade McClain? I think its amazing that people assume had we kept paying Ware what we had been paying him that it wouldn't have effected this teams moves for now and the future.

They were going to re-sign Tyron at that time if they had Ware on the roster?

my point had nothing to do with financial situations. The three people I mentioned would be a huge benefit to a defensive line that is struggling to apply pressure. sorry if that hurts your fanaticism about the great season

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

my point had nothing to do with financial situations. The three people I mentioned would be a huge benefit to a defensive line that is struggling to apply pressure. sorry if that hurts your fanaticism about the great season

It doesn't hurt my "fanaticism". Its just unrealistic and its silly. You're basically asking for this organization to bring the same team back as they did last year lol. That's insane lol. But just like some of our vets like Hatcher and Ware, it seems that some fans have become satisfied with mediocrity.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

It doesn't hurt my "fanaticism". Its just unrealistic and its silly. You're basically asking for this organization to bring the same team back as they did last year lol. That's insane lol. But just like some of our vets like Hatcher and Ware, it seems that some fans have become satisfied with mediocrity.

you keep repeating the same thing. Ware was hurt last year, he isn't now. Ratliff was a head case last year but finally, after coming off two years of injuries, he is playing way better ball then Melton is playing. Hatcher was a probowl caliber player last year. He would fit in well on this line coming off the bench for us.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

you keep repeating the same thing. Ware was hurt last year, he isn't now. Ratliff was a head case last year but finally, after coming off two years of injuries, he is playing way better ball then Melton is playing. Hatcher was a probowl caliber player last year. He would fit in well on this line coming off the bench for us.

I keep repeating the same thing because you seem to be ignoring it lol.

When this team needed some key stops on defense last year where was Hatcher and Ware? When opposing teams left tackle would be out and a backup would come in where would Ware be at?

I've been hearing the whole "Ware is hurt" excuse for the past 3 or 4 years now as to why his sacks aren't there. Enough was enough. We're 6-1 for it. I wouldn't change a thing. I understand you would and there's good reasonings for it. You believe Ware and Ratliff would duplicate the same success they have outside of this organization that they would here. I just disagree.

Some times players need fresh new starts. Just like Rolando McClain is doing for us. Sometimes you get sick of the mediocrity and start to exhibit mediocrity yourself. Ware, Ratliff and Hatcher needed new starts.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

I keep repeating the same thing because you seem to be ignoring it lol.

When this team needed some key stops on defense last year where was Hatcher and Ware? When opposing teams left tackle would be out and a backup would come in where would Ware be at?

We have a new defensive coordinator. Why do you keep ignoring that?

 

[Chuck 54]

Unless we played him at LB, Ware was not going to hold up. He's bound for the HOF as an OLB, not as a DE. He was never going to hold up at DE. How many OLB pass rush specialists would be great at 4-3 DE? Matthews? Von Miller? Nope.

Right now, Ware would still be our best pass rusher, but he would not be stout in that role vs the run, and I don't believe he gets 10 sacks or holds up during an NFL season. It's a whole different position.

 

[gimmesix]

I keep repeating the same thing because you seem to be ignoring it lol.

When this team needed some key stops on defense last year where was Hatcher and Ware? When opposing teams left tackle would be out and a backup would come in where would Ware be at?

I've been hearing the whole "Ware is hurt" excuse for the past 3 or 4 years now as to why his sacks aren't there. Enough was enough. We're 6-1 for it. I wouldn't change a thing. I understand you would and there's good reasonings for it. You believe Ware and Ratliff would duplicate the same success they have outside of this organization that they would here. I just disagree.

Some times players need fresh new starts. Just like Rolando McClain is doing for us. Sometimes you get sick of the mediocrity and start to exhibit mediocrity yourself. Ware, Ratliff and Hatcher needed new starts.

If healthy, I believe Ware and Ratliff would duplicate the same success. BUT Ware wasn't healthy, Ratliff didn't want to be here and Hatcher wanted too much money to stay.

I don't think the players needed a fresh start. I just think Dallas couldn't afford to count on certain things happening without evidence that they would.

I have no doubt a healthy Ware would make this an even better team, but we hadn't seen that player in a few years. Instead of counting on that, we took the approach that we'd rather throw a bunch of healthy, younger bodies at teams than a few, aging, possibly unhealthy Pro Bowlers.

I'm sad that Ware didn't "live" to see the day when Dallas was playing like it is now because he really deserved to ... but we wasted his best years to the point where it just wasn't feasible to keep him and count on a healthy bounceback.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If healthy, I believe Ware and Ratliff would duplicate the same success. BUT Ware wasn't healthy, Ratliff didn't want to be here and Hatcher wanted too much money to stay.

I don't think the players needed a fresh start. I just think Dallas couldn't afford to count on certain things happening without evidence that they would.

I have no doubt a healthy Ware would make this an even better team, but we hadn't seen that player in a few years. Instead of counting on that, we took the approach that we'd rather throw a bunch of healthy, younger bodies at teams than a few, aging, possibly unhealthy Pro Bowlers.

I'm sad that Ware didn't "live" to see the day when Dallas was playing like it is now because he really deserved to ... but we wasted his best years to the point where it just wasn't feasible to keep him and count on a healthy bounceback.

How many years has Ware been "hurt"? Last year was going on 3. Same goes or Miles Austin. Same goes for Ratliff. Now they're healthy? I wonder why? Just a coincidence? Could be. But that's what I allude to when I say they needed a fresh start. They constantly were hurt for this franchise.

And I can't say we "wasted" Ware's prime years. Same goes for Romo and Witten. They contributed to those 8-8 seasons.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

I don't know if Ware is or was the answer, but I think we're a great pass rush away from being a definite championship contender.

 

[Szczepanik]

Give me the nasty defenders like McClain and Crawford over a softy like ware any day . You need tenacious guys on defense . Never did anything with ware , he wasn't physical enough .

One of the best Cowboys ever to wear a uniform is deemed "soft" by you.

Oh goodness. I am sure he talked all of those QB's into getting onto the ground for him, while he almost broke the sack record.

 

[Eric_Boyer]

Unless we played him at LB, Ware was not going to hold up. He's bound for the HOF as an OLB, not as a DE. He was never going to hold up at DE. How many OLB pass rush specialists would be great at 4-3 DE? Matthews? Von Miller? Nope.

Right now, Ware would still be our best pass rusher, but he would not be stout in that role vs the run, and I don't believe he gets 10 sacks or holds up during an NFL season. It's a whole different position.

we drafted a DE in the 2nd round that couldn't "hold up" either......

 

[BAT]

Unless we played him at LB, Ware was not going to hold up. He's bound for the HOF as an OLB, not as a DE. He was never going to hold up at DE. How many OLB pass rush specialists would be great at 4-3 DE? Matthews? Von Miller? Nope.

Right now, Ware would still be our best pass rusher, but he would not be stout in that role vs the run, and I don't believe he gets 10 sacks or holds up during an NFL season. It's a whole different position.

Ware appears to be doing just fine in Denver as a 4-3 DE. And Ware was tearing up the league his first 6 games last season as a DE as well.

 

[BAT]

If healthy, I believe Ware and Ratliff would duplicate the same success. BUT Ware wasn't healthy, Ratliff didn't want to be here and Hatcher wanted too much money to stay.

I don't think the players needed a fresh start. I just think Dallas couldn't afford to count on certain things happening without evidence that they would.

I have no doubt a healthy Ware would make this an even better team, but we hadn't seen that player in a few years. Instead of counting on that, we took the approach that we'd rather throw a bunch of healthy, younger bodies at teams than a few, aging, possibly unhealthy Pro Bowlers.

I'm sad that Ware didn't "live" to see the day when Dallas was playing like it is now because he really deserved to ... but we wasted his best years to the point where it just wasn't feasible to keep him and count on a healthy bounceback.

There were more than a few unhealthy players on the team THIS season. While they were younger than Ware, many had greater injury concerns near career threatening in fact. None of them have the pro bowl pedigree however. Melton and Spencer are flashes in the pan. Financial argument is the only real reaso for getting rid of Ware, quality of play is fallacy.

 

[JohnsKey19]

it wasn't going to happen here unfortunately. I'm glad for him personally he's able to still produce in Denver.

 

[cowboys2233]

it wasn't going to happen here unfortunately. I'm glad for him personally he's able to still produce in Denver.

Yup, and he should have a nice reunion with the fellas in February, in a little place I like to call Arizona.

 

[mattjames2010]

I'll never forgive Ware or Ratliff (Certainly not Ratliff) for giving up on Wade in 2010. As fans, we can sit back and criticize coaches as much as we want. It has no impact on the game. But Ware was supposed to be a leader, the one getting our group ready for games and backing the coach. It was shameful to see him and Ratliff go through the motions until Wade was fired. Only Dez had fire, and people here question Bryant's attitude while mourning the loss of Ware?

Don't get me wrong, physically, Ware is one of the greatest pass rushers of all-time and I do miss that. That Saints game in 09 was a classic Ware moment. But that 2010 fiasco resonates with me more. He'll probably get a ring in Denver, but Broncos fans better hope there is no huge collapse because Ware won't be doing much to help turn it around.

 

[Lazyking]

If he was, he'd probably be injured lol.

 

[gimmesix]

How many years has Ware been "hurt"? Last year was going on 3. Same goes or Miles Austin. Same goes for Ratliff. Now they're healthy? I wonder why? Just a coincidence? Could be. But that's what I allude to when I say they needed a fresh start. They constantly were hurt for this franchise.

And I can't say we "wasted" Ware's prime years. Same goes for Romo and Witten. They contributed to those 8-8 seasons.

So we didn't wast the years when Ware was contributing 20 sacks, 19 sacks, 15.5 sacks, etc.? A few supremely talented individuals cannot make a bad team great. It took all that they had just to make it average.

As far as health goes, are you saying they are healthy because they left Dallas? If so, we really need to find out what we're doing wrong. It's most likely the fact that this is just a tough game that takes a major toll on the body so players are always subject to injury and more so the more wear and tear they get. It doesn't mean they are going to get injured each year, just that it's more likely to happen ... which is why we had to let players like Ware and Austin go, with Austin being an even greater risk because of persistent hamstring issues.

 

[erod]

Ware did what Ware does last night. He racked up stats in a blowout. He's the A-Rod of pro football that way. King of the 3-run homer with an 8-2 lead, but a sure groundout with the bases loaded in a tie game in the ninth.

He has to feel strange this season. He's a role player on a team that already went to the Super Bowl, and he's watching his longtime team take off and play monumentally better defense without him.