IMHO - The real reason we are upset at cutting Petitti

[CoCo]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

Nope.

I hate to lose him because we still have many more question marks than answers along our OL and Pettiti was a "potential" solution.

On top of that I would have really liked to get some compensation for him.

I think its cool that his dad posted here and that many were very respectful of his presence in the way we too would want to be treated. But that's not the reason cutting Rob bums me out.

 

[neosapien23]

I think the point some of us are making is that the Cowboys ARE NOT better in the long run with Fabini over Petitti. They're barely better in the short run, if at all.

I think Pettitt will could become a good starter in the future (maybe at guard). However, Fabini is a much better player than Pettitti. He can play both spots at a decent level. Pettitti cannot. Lets not get it twisted. If Parcells felt the way you felt, Fabini would have been cut. He has already proven that a SB does not make you safe (Boiman). Lets look back at this decision in a few years. Rember how mad people were when Dallas lost Ross, AB, and Hunter? Ross is done, Hunter is most likely working at Wal Mart, and AB was let go by a reciever hungry team. Pettitti is an unkown, Fabini is an established veteran.

 

[Trip]

I think Pettitt will could become a good starter in the future (maybe at guard). However, Fabini is a much better player than Pettitti. He can play both spots at a decent level. Pettitti cannot. Lets not get it twisted. If Parcells felt the way you felt, Fabini would have been cut. He has already proven that a SB does not make you safe (Boiman). Lets look back at this decision in a few years. Rember how mad people were when Dallas lost Ross, AB, and Hunter? Ross is done, Hunter is most likely working at Wal Mart, and AB was let go by a reciever hungry team. Pettitti is an unkown, Fabini is an established veteran.

If Fabini gets on the field for any extended period of time, I think you'll see he's not "much better" than Petitti. He's a little better, maybe, and he's at the end of his career and more of an injury risk.

 

[kTXe]

"Go right ahead Mr. Little! Enjoy your meeting with Mr. Bledsoe!"

 

[Boy's fan in Giant land]

If Petitti were looked at based on where he was drafted last season, and the improvement he has made since becoming pro and the dedication he showed in the offseason, he would have been kept.

Some lower round draft choices get the luxury of spending a season on the practice squad or the bottom of the depth chart, but Petitti had to start 16 games and the bar was immediately raised for him. He still has a chance to become a good player, as do many other lower round draft choices that have played one season in the NFL.

The expectations for him were too high. What happened to Parcells theory about players "getting it" in the third season? To draft a player where Petitti was selected and expect him to become a serviceable starter this soon is unrealistic.

And to give up on him this fast and keep Fabini over Petitti at this stage of his career is short sighted.

I agree with most of your assessement. Been a BP supporter since the get go, and while I don't think he's infallible, I DO think we have to trust his judgement on this. I, for one, hated to see Rob get cut - I was really pulling for the kid - but we have to look at the positive side of this. There is so much talent on our squad right now that this had to be one of those really tough decisions. I mean, the 1st 5 or 6 we're relatively easy, but after that, Jeez, they've all got great upside. Who the heck do we cut?

This is an indication of just how good we could be this year.

 

[Juljonesfan]

Its all about upgrading our team and 53.

When last years starters are replaced and we have more proven talent in Fabini and a better prospect in McQ you move on.

Columbo won the starting job straight up.

Lets move on.

 

[Hiero]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

yes that is why.

 

[silver]

it bother's me that we let a young talent walk while we keep an old player on the downside of his carreer. i had the same exact feeling when we let ron stone walk and kept nate newton for one more year. same story different year. at least nate had earned brownie points with the fans after winning 3 rings. what has fabini done for us. :insane:
fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.

 

[kTXe]

fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.

If so, they will have quite a few top 5 picks in the next 10 years.

Jesus Christ Almighty, some of you have taken delusional to levels never before seen.

 

[theogt]

it bother's me that we let a young talent walk while we keep an old player on the downside of his carreer. i had the same exact feeling when we let ron stone walk and kept nate newton for one more year. same story different year. at least nate had earned brownie points with the fans after winning 3 rings. what has fabini done for us. :insane:
fabini will be out of the league in one or two years and petitti will be the saints left tackle for a decade.

For the thousandth time: We have two young tackles (Colombo and McQ) so there is no reason to be upset about letting young "talent" go. Note the quotation marks because there are plenty that don't believe that Petitti has much potential as a starter in this league.

It's simply a value decision. A quality backup right now is more valuable than the third best young tackle on the team. If you just watch the games and watch Fabini play you'll notice that the guy is pretty darn good.

 

[bbgun]

Who says we're upset? The New Jersey guys?

 

[TwoDeep3]

I read alot here but post little.

I think the anchor poster is absolutely dead on about this.

I see this board and others rail upon players who fail.

Pettiti failed last year in a big way.

His father reads here and posts, thus he gets a pass.

That is not an indictment of this board. That is the way us fans are. We form a kinship with players and their glaring weaknesses are over looked.

There was a guy who was a quarterback that we tried making into a runningbac a few yearss ago. Woody somebody.

He didn't have it, but fans demanded that we were not giving him a solid try.

We converted him to DB and he still showed he lacked what it took.

When he was cut, the clamouring was intense about that being a mistake. It wasnot.

Pettiti may end up having a nice career as a back-up somewhere. But his rookie season showed he did not have the sped nor footwork to play tackle.

They moved on. As they should have.

 

[Hiero]

fans all the time develop bonds with certain players. I think a lot of us saw Petitti as a good backup and a guy who hada future on the team because of the experience he had last year. it happens all the time with players, and rob is the only one who has had his dad post here, so what kind of lame conspiracy do we have for all those other players?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I am not gonna bad mouth Pettitti... he was a Cowboy so I was pulling for him.... it was difficult to watch him watch as defenders blew by him uncontested many times... I HOPE he turns into a great OLman...

 

[TwoDeep3]

His nuts would have been toasted by mid season had his father not posted here.

He gave up more sacks than "Holding #75" Phil Pozderac.

The only thing that saved Pozderac from being proclaimed as Satan was no internet for fans to huddle around and converse.

Fans latch onto the underdogs. Beriault was another that caused people to pause when he was cut. The next Bill Bates. Even the Frenchman wrote an article about it, tear in eye.

There is no conspiracy theory here.

Just the fact that were Pettiti's dad not part of this board, his name would have been Ryan Leaf by mid season.

 

[2233boys]

Let's just be honest. The cutting of Petiti does not just bother us because we thought he had talent, or that he was our last great hope. The reason it bothers many people is because his father posts on this forum. Last year I was personally torn between being irritated with him and wanting him to "get it" and become a solid guy. Any other guy on the roster would have been easier to get angry at. When people posted negative threads about him, I felt bad for Pittdawg. I'm sure others did as well.

Let's recognize that Petiti was "our" guy. We bonded with him and his dad and his cut hurt more than most. Every guy who goes out there with a star on their helmet and gives it their 100% effort should get the same goodwill from all of us. Even if they aren't "good enough" to make it. Let's put this past us with the knowledge that if BP really believed that keeping Petiti would be the best for this team, he would have.

Pittdawg, if you are reading this, I hope that your son lands with another team and proves BP wrong. Not because I think BP is wrong but because I am rooting for him. It has been great having a players father on this board and learning from him.

Now let's move on to the season!

You hit the nail on the head as to why folks are upset about the cut.

As an aside, it doesn't bother me one bit. He wasn't even an average OT last year, he was down right terrible. Ultimatly Pettitti didn't preform up to the same level as Colombo, McQuiston or Fabini and was cut.

 

[trueblue1687]

Speak for yourself pal. Cutting Petitti bothers me a lot because I do believe he has talent and will be an outstanding OT someday, only now it will be for some other team.

I have been a Rob Petitti fan since the day we drafted him and it had nothing to do with his dad posting on this forum (which didn't start for quite some time afterwards).

The first time I saw Petitti's highlight clips I knew this kid could be a very good OT. He had excellent balance, footwork, and leverage as well as a mean streak. I saw some of that same thing last season and believe it was a mistake to let him go in favor of Fabini.

It also bothers me that we cut Junior Glymph.

You're joking right?? he had HORRIBLE footwork and leverage. He lost so much weight last year (obese in senoir bowl) that he was weaker than tuesdays dishwater. In fairness to him, he should not have been thrown into a starting role, but obviously it was a have to case unless you wanted to pay the has-been Ross Verba 5 times what he was worth.

 

[Dale]

His nuts would have been toasted by mid season had his father not posted here.

He gave up more sacks than "Holding #75" Phil Pozderac.

The only thing that saved Pozderac from being proclaimed as Satan was no internet for fans to huddle around and converse.

Fans latch onto the underdogs. Beriault was another that caused people to pause when he was cut. The next Bill Bates. Even the Frenchman wrote an article about it, tear in eye.

There is no conspiracy theory here.

Just the fact that were Pettiti's dad not part of this board, his name would have been Ryan Leaf by mid season.

I agree in some ways.

Rob was an easy guy to root for. That's the bottom line.

He had the "Jersey" ties to Parcells that made Parcells' public comments about him fun to read. Being a seventh round pick turned starter also made him easy to root for. Plus, the dedication he showed by losing all that weight made him a good story. Not to mention his father posting. As you said, it was as if we all instantly "knew" Rob just because of his father's presence here.

Hell, lest we forget he was filling in at a MAJOR hole and we all desperately wanted him to be the guy after the Jacob Rogers fiasco.

And, frankly, after that Rogers fiasco it was nice to have a tough guy come in seemingly willing to do anything.

As for him being so bad, I don't know that I agree there. He wasn't great, but being a seventh rounder you knew there'd be some struggles. I seem to recall a stretch where he did really well, though he did hit that rookie wall and began to struggle for the rest of the year. But there were times that people were asking if we got a major steal in that guy early on.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Who says we're upset? The New Jersey guys?

:laugh1:

even though I hate most things you say, you're good for a line or 2

 

[WoodysGirl]

I read alot here but post little.

I think the anchor poster is absolutely dead on about this.

I see this board and others rail upon players who fail.

Pettiti failed last year in a big way.

His father reads here and posts, thus he gets a pass.

I have to disagree. Because you aren't here on a daily basis, you don't see it. But based on quite a few threads and posts, I have to disagree that he's gotten a pass on this board. And I'm sure if I wanted to, I could dig for all the threads and posts lamabasting Petitti.

Some may feel that the mods may be overly zealous in their attempts to maintain a level of respect for someone whom we considered an "insider." But I'm sure you understand that being an admin on a board who has it's own "insider." Because based on my few observations of that board, when criticism is reaped upon that "insider," I see some of the staff come out of the woodwork. So it's really not just a Zone thing.

That is not an indictment of this board. That is the way us fans are. We form a kinship with players and their glaring weaknesses are over looked.

There was a guy who was a quarterback that we tried making into a runningbac a few yearss ago. Woody somebody.

He didn't have it, but fans demanded that we were not giving him a solid try.

We converted him to DB and he still showed he lacked what it took.

When he was cut, the clamouring was intense about that being a mistake. It wasnot.

Pettiti may end up having a nice career as a back-up somewhere. But his rookie season showed he did not have the sped nor footwork to play tackle.

They moved on. As they should have.

This part I do agree with however. We, as fans, all get attached to various players. My username is a testament to that. So while some may feel the need to defend Petitti due to his Pops posting here, I'm sure there are quite a few others who genuinely rooted for him to succeed in Dallas. Simply because his success would only help Dallas. As it is, he's not. As I say to all former players cut by Dallas, "Good luck to him."