Importance of the no delay of game call

[jobberone]

Haven't seen this so forgive if already posted.

I think this could have cost us the game and I'm puzzled as to why the refs didn't appear to even think about it.

They also screwed up the clock and ran off way too much time.

Not much into conspiracy theories but this one stinks. I'm hoping Stephen mentions this. And I hope he takes it to the Competition Committee although Mara sits on it, too.

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Edit: To clarify this was when OBJ picked up the ball, after the whistle had blown BTW, and ran it down the field and back.

This also led to the confusion by the refs trying to get the game clock right.

I thought most people would know the play but here's the clarification.

 

[JBS]

What are you talking about?

 

[texbumthelife]

What are you talking about?

Yeah I am at a loss too.

Unless he is talking about when OBJ ran off the with ball. In which case, that ball was originally swatted out of the Giants players hand, away from refs, well after the whistle. If anyone deserved delay of game there, it should have been Dallas.

 

[JBS]

Yeah I am at a loss too.

Unless he is talking about when OBJ ran off the with ball. In which case, that ball was originally swatted out of the Giants players hand, away from refs, well after the whistle. If anyone deserved delay of game there, it should have been Dallas.

After thinking about it ..this was the only play I could think of as well

And I agree 100% w your assessment...no qualms here

 

[texbumthelife]

After thinking about it ..this was the only play I could think of as well

And I agree 100% w your assessment...no qualms here

I know people were going ballistic in the game thread about that being DOG, ignoring the fact that the Dallas player slapped the ball down the field.

 

[jobberone]

I know people were going ballistic in the game thread about that being DOG, ignoring the fact that the Dallas player slapped the ball down the field.

Wasn't the play blown dead? You can't run off clock screwing around with a dead ball.

 

[texbumthelife]

Wasn't the play blown dead? You can't run off clock screwing around with a dead ball.

That's why I am confused...

 

[Nightman]

Wasn't the play blown dead? You can't run off clock screwing around with a dead ball.

OBJ thought it might have been a live ball because the Cowboy player knocked it away.

Running all the way to the end zone was excessive but the refs did the right thing re-setting the clocks.

Eli blew it by not running off the full 40secs. He snapped it around 20secs.

 

[texbumthelife]

Wasn't the play blown dead? You can't run off clock screwing around with a dead ball.

He ran with the ball after a Cowboys player swatted it down field, because he didn't know the play was dead. Either way, the delay was initiated by a Cowboy player slapping the ball out of a Giants hands and down field.

 

[GusTheo]

As stated by others, if you want to call Becham Jr for delay of game, you can def call a delay of game on the Cowboys for swatting it down field.

 

[superonyx]

Wasn't the play blown dead? You can't run off clock screwing around with a dead ball.

I believe it could have been called delay of game as well. The clock is still ticking and Beckham is jogging down the field with the ball while ignoring the officials whistles.
The clock is ticking but the officials cant reset the ball and start the play clock because goof ball is dancing down the field with the ball.

 

[superonyx]

As stated by others, if you want to call Becham Jr for delay of game, you can def call a delay of game on the Cowboys for swatting it down field.

A defender swatting the ball cant be a delay of game when the defender swatted it before the whistle. He was trying to cause a fumble. Part of officials calling delay of game in these scenarios comes down to the judgement of the players intent. Similar to a player laying on top of a pile and not getting up while holding down an offensive player. What intent would a reasonable person find dallas defender could have in swatting the ball away from a giants player in that situation.

Judgement calls. The official determined Beckham didn't have the intentions of milking game clock by doing what he did. Of course they could have ruled the other way if they wanted to be jerks also.

 

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[texbumthelife]

A defender swatting the ball cant be a delay of game when the defender swatted it before the whistle. He was trying to cause a fumble. Part of officials calling delay of game in these scenarios comes down to the judgement of the players intent. Similar to a player laying on top of a pile and not getting up while holding down an offensive player. What intent would a reasonable person find dallas defender could have in swatting the ball away from a giants player in that situation.

Judgement calls. The official determined Beckham didn't have the intentions of milking game clock by doing what he did. Of course they could have ruled the other way if they wanted to be jerks also.

I'll have to go back and watch, but I am fairly certain the whistle had blown before the defender swatted it away.

 

[superonyx]

I'll have to go back and watch, but I am fairly certain the whistle had blown before the defender swatted it away.

I believe the audio was off on the replay of it. I would ask you what intent could the ref determine the defender had by swatting the ball away?
Delay of game (other than play clock violations) are judgement calls. Can a reasonably determine the defender was trying to make the ball harder to spot with the clock and the game ticking away?

 

[hairic]

I'll have to go back and watch, but I am fairly certain the whistle had blown before the defender swatted it away.

Officials are pretty consistent with their whistles. They think they see the play end and bring the whistles to their mouth. Entire process takes 1.5 seconds from runner down to whistle with not much deviation, and that wasn't 1.5 seconds.

No whistle in mouth:

Whistle in mouth:

 

[MrPeanutbutter]

Of all the issues from last night's matchup, this is right below the broadcasting in terms of importance.

 

[dstovall5]

If anything, I thought a delay of game should've been called on the Cowboys, we got lucky it didn't happen. I want to say it was Nick Hayden (could be wrong) that knocked the ball 20 yards away after the whistle was dead, ODB saw a loose ball bouncing down field, and did what all football players should do and scooped it up and ran for the end zone.

 

[jobberone]

He ran with the ball after a Cowboys player swatted it down field, because he didn't know the play was dead. Either way, the delay was initiated by a Cowboy player slapping the ball out of a Giants hands and down field.

Ok but the whistle had blown so its a dead ball. Doesn't matter about who swatted it.

They can either give a delay of game there which is probably the technically correct thing to do or reset the clock. But I don't know if they set it correctly. It should have gone to the time the whistle blew and then give the Giants their presnap time. I'm just not certain they got it right.

Looks like there are some legitimate differences of opinion and after reading them all I can say is the Cowboys probably didn't lose much or any time.

But given we scored with what....7 seconds left...we could have gotten royally screwed on it.

 

[GusTheo]

A defender swatting the ball cant be a delay of game when the defender swatted it before the whistle. He was trying to cause a fumble. Part of officials calling delay of game in these scenarios comes down to the judgement of the players intent. Similar to a player laying on top of a pile and not getting up while holding down an offensive player. What intent would a reasonable person find dallas defender could have in swatting the ball away from a giants player in that situation.

Judgement calls. The official determined Beckham didn't have the intentions of milking game clock by doing what he did. Of course they could have ruled the other way if they wanted to be jerks also.

There's whistles when the play is live? I don't get it, the play is over. There wouldn't be a whistle because the clock is still running.