Impressed with T.O.'s pregame speech?

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LaTunaNostra;1081314 said:
I don't want to hear his name again until he starts contributing.

this post annoyed me so much....

*replays underthrown or out-of-reach passes over and over in my head*

you expect TO to contribute. Well, when the ball hasn't been thrown 10 miles south of the border, he's usually caught it and gotten good YAC. I've also seen him blocking well and so did Aikman and Daryl Johnston (last week)

you also see the D rolling a safety to his side and double covering him. That's indirect contribution, but contribution nonetheless

get him the damn ball and you won't be dissapointed

he can't WILL the ball to himself through telekenisis or whatever

He's a wide reciever, not a wizard
 

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sbuscha;1081339 said:
and this is TO's fault. Why don't you put some of this blame on the media. Do you think he begs them to write stories about EVERYTHING he does? I have heard him ask to be left alone. There is no way you can blame him for this



turn off your radio, TV and computer because unfortunalty he is a top story and the media is drooling trying to make a story.

"we have 64 pictures of him blowing up on the sidelines..." What next???



If you bother reading this board, you will see on a daily basis the media derided for its lazy reliance on TO. (BTW, a Philly columnist this week wrote a good piece describing exactly how Owens makes life esier for scribes...no digging up stories needed when you've got TO to write about).

So don't give me this bologna that we've been duped by the press. We KNOW the media prefers the lazy way out.

On the other hand, it's time for Owens to do what the press did last week - refuse to say ANYTHING to the press. For the remanider of the year.

The oline did it, why can't he?

Or can he? Can he just shut up and play now? Is it within his realm of self-discipine to do so? Does he even want to?

All I know is for a guy who has done zilch but prove he can no longer handle double teams, he sure is 'visible'.

These are the players I want to hear about and hear FROM:

JJ, MBIII, Dre, Ware, Tnew, Watkins, Roy, TG, Crayton, Burnett, James, Ratliff, Canty, Spears....catch my drift?
 

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LaTunaNostra;1081314 said:
But this is how I feel about him...I am sick and tired of his being the center of attention , even in defeat.
Whose fault is that? The media makes him the center of attention. Does Owens lead off every SportsCenter with himself? PTI , Round the Horn, Quite Frankly, Cold Pizza?
Does he write every article about himself ?
ESPN followed the team bus to the stadium for crying out loud.
Have you ever seen FOX or anyone put a little yellow arrow with a players name and number up pointing to that player on the field before a play starts.
It's ridiculous but it's not Owens, it's the media.
It is not all about HIM, and instead of saying that and getting sound bytes from it, he could keep his lips totally buttoned until he actually does something to help this team.

If he kept his lips buttoned he would get blasted for not talking to the media.

At this point, I'd actually prefer to see Crayton start - Owens has been that disappointing.
T. Glenn wouldn't catch another pass if teams stopped doubling Owens and started doubling him.

The hand injury is the only thing he gets a pass on, and is the reason I'm not ready to barf at the very sight of him.
You should have just posted this and then I wouln't have had to read the rest. This is your true feelings.

I don't want to hear his name again until he starts contributing.
Tell the media.

Owens is just playing football, he doesn't decide who networks put on TV, or who they write articles about or any of that.

We need to get him the ball more, .. maybe since we paid him millions to play here we ought to ask him to do more, .. just an idea.
 

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SupermanXx;1081378 said:
this post annoyed me so much....

*replays underthrown or out-of-reach passes over and over in my head*

you expect TO to contribute. Well, when the ball hasn't been thrown 10 miles south of the border, he's usually caught it and gotten good YAC. I've also seen him blocking well and so did Aikman and Daryl Johnston (last week)

you also see the D rolling a safety to his side and double covering him. That's indirect contribution, but contribution nonetheless

get him the damn ball and you won't be dissapointed

he can't WILL the ball to himself through telekenisis or whatever

He's a wide reciever, not a wizard

No one is saying the QB play is sufficient. But the ball hopping and grounding and high floaters are being sailed out to all the receivers and backs, and not just Owens.

In addition, for the supposed best receiver in the game Owens has not made any notable fantastic grabs, high light reel moves or uncanny displays of hands, speed, or toughness when the ball HAS been within his reach.

Good he's blocking and trying for YAC.

So is everyone else who's not on a 25 million a year contract
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None of the receivers can will themselves the ball, but the badly or well thrown ones are at least going more often in Owens direction.

It's time to play like he did in Philly, whether Bledsoe has a day like he had vs JAX or a day like he had vs Washington.

Show you're the best, by separating and shutting up.
 

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YoMick;1081214 said:
At first I was very impressed... but then wondered if he REALLY meant it that much....

I'm not being contentious, but why do we have to dissect his post game interview? We are no better than the talking heads if the guy can't voice his opinions and conduct his interviews just like the next man.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1081314 said:
The hand injury is the only thing he gets a pass on, and is the reason I'm not ready to barf at the very sight of him.

I don't want to hear his name again until he starts contributing.

:lmao2: :lmao2:

Thanks for giving me something to laugh at today.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1081314 said:
They ALL have "a burning desire to win". Owens is no different, and no more anxious to win than anyone else. Every single player gets frustrated...but the ones with class keep it to themselves, or express it in helpful ways.

No one is falling into the 'media trap' either. Owens got considerable sympathy here for the nonsense the press spread about him not really having a hammy injury, and then again for the erstwhile "od".

But this is how I feel about him...I am sick and tired of his being the center of attention , even in defeat. It is not all about HIM, and instead of saying that and getting sound bytes from it, he could keep his lips totally buttoned until he actually does something to help this team.

Because thru four games, he's done exactly SQUAT. Just shut up and separate.

At this point, I'd actually prefer to see Crayton start - Owens has been that disappointing. The hand injury is the only thing he gets a pass on, and is the reason I'm not ready to barf at the very sight of him.

I don't want to hear his name again until he starts contributing.

WOW. That makes more sense than any thing I have read here in weeks.
Thank you.:D
 

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Doomsday101;1081328 said:
I was impressed by how he conducted himself during the post game press conference. I'm willing to take him at his word instead of trying to play mind reader or read between the lines. He was not there to point fingers and said maybe he needs to work harder as well. I'm not sure if I will ever be a big fan of TO but I was impressed by how he conducted himself despite his frustration at the loss.

Nobody, nobody has mentioned the fact that he said "I need to practice more and look at the film and see what I need to do to get better." The only thing the reporters and media repeat is anything they can put a negative spin on.
 

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Sportsbabe;1081427 said:
I'm not being contentious, but why do we have to dissect his post game interview? We are no better than the talking heads if the guy can't voice his opinions and conduct his interviews just like the next man.

Good point, why do we have to dissect everything he does or says ??

Leave the guy alone.

If he burps or sneezes, it's on SportsCenter.

I am convinced some would find fault if he cured cancer or rescued somebody from a burning building.

The only thing he has done wrong since he came to Dallas is oversleep and miss a meeting.

The other stuff is just that, stuff the media has taken and overblown into something it's not.
 

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TO is responsible for his own media circus at this point he can control it. He can easily choose not to feed the frenzy. I never see Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt, or lots of other guys across the league getting the same kind of media attention that TO does. He is partially to blame. If he didnt like the attention he should refuse to do the interviews. Let the media talk and say whatever they want.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1081423 said:
No one is saying the QB play is sufficient. But the ball hopping and grounding and high floaters are being sailed out to all the receivers and backs, and not just Owens.

In addition, for the supposed best receiver in the game Owens has not made any notable fantastic grabs, high light reel moves or uncanny displays of hands, speed, or toughness when the ball HAS been within his reach.

Good he's blocking and trying for YAC.

So is everyone else who's not on a 25 million a year contract
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None of the receivers can will themselves the ball, but the badly or well thrown ones are at least going more often in Owens direction.

It's time to play like he did in Philly, whether Bledsoe has a day like he had vs JAX or a day like he had vs Washington.

Show you're the best, by separating and shutting up.

You forgot to mention, the play accross the middle where he suddenly had no arms:eek:
 

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Owens has hardly been a problem of his own making. Our biggest problem is Bledsoe. Nine turnovers in four games. That's your problem.

BP is all about percentages. Well, turning over the ball over three times in two games by yourself will cause your chances of losing to skyrocket.
 

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Sportsbabe;1081441 said:
Nobody, nobody has mentioned the fact that he said "I need to practice more and look at the film and see what I need to do to get better." The only thing the reporters and media repeat is anything they can put a negative spin on.

I'm with you SB, if he does something wrong here in Dallas I will be the first to say so.

I haven't seen it so far.

It is so obvious who the haters were prior to him coming to Dallas, because he hasn't done anything to hate since becoming a Cowboy.
 

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WV Cowboy;1081458 said:
I'm with you SB, if he does something wrong here in Dallas I will be the first to say so.

I haven't seen it so far.

It is so obvious who the haters were prior to him coming to Dallas, because he hasn't done anything to hate since becoming a Cowboy.

He hasnt done anything to love either.
 

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Sportsbabe;1081441 said:
Nobody, nobody has mentioned the fact that he said "I need to practice more and look at the film and see what I need to do to get better." The only thing the reporters and media repeat is anything they can put a negative spin on.

I agree I felt TO said the right things and did so in a moment where it was easy to see frustration on his face. We just lost and I clearly understand no player and especially TO likes to lose and yet he was able to keep it together. I hope he can continue to keep it together and hopefully we will not have too many more games like yesterday. As for anything he said on the sidelines without knowing what he was saying it would be unfair to say he was being negative or pointing fingers out there. It was clear he wanted the ball I understand that as well Mike would have been calling for the ball himself regardless if the defense was clamping down on him.
 

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WV Cowboy;1081412 said:
It's ridiculous but it's not Owens, it's the media.

It is BOTH. A symbiotic relationship between a drama queen and a lazy sensation-seeking press.

If he kept his lips buttoned he would get blasted for not talking to the media.

Well, that's quite possible. But Bill would love him for it, and his teammates prhaps respect him more. Let's see TO at least try it.

T. Glenn wouldn't catch another pass if teams stopped doubling Owens and started doubling him.

True. Terry Glenn, who led the league in per catch reception yardage last year has NEVER beat a double team. :laugh2:


You should have just posted this and then I wouln't have had to read the rest. This is your true feelings.

Of course it's my true feelings. Like many fans, I was willing to put up with Owens because of what he could do for the team. I still am.

But he isn't doing much Crayton couldn't and he is NOT always doubled.


Tell the media.

Owens is just playing football, he doesn't decide who networks put on TV, or who they write articles about or any of that.

Of course not, but all his career he has fed the beast. Now I'd like to see him at least try to starve it.

So this team doesn't not have to live amidst the uproar.

We need to get him the ball more, .. maybe since we paid him millions to play here we ought to ask him to do more, .. just an idea.

We need to get all the receivers the ball more. But we made a deal with the devil and now can't deliver the goods.

Part of the problem is Bledsoe under pressure, but part is very possibly that TO is not what he was. And he's the only one can prove he is.....perhaps instead of throwing his arms in the air when Bledsoe throws a pick in front of him, he could actually chase down the intercepter. Perhaps he could refine his route running. His hands have never been that great, and his finger is broken, so perhaps he could understand that under those circumstances, and when he's doubled by coverage he can't escape, it's really not such a tragedy the QB under pressure does not throw his way.

Success breeds confidence in a receiver.

TO has to earn it even with a QB as flawed at DB.
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1081467 said:
He hasnt done anything to love either.

So that's a reason to hate ?

Why am I talking to you, you "name" says it all.

A broken hand does hamper a WR some I would think, so just be patient, if we can figure a way to get him the ball, instead of, "he's double covered, we can't throw it to him", he will do lot's of things to love with the ball.

Stop the hating until he does something wrong.
 

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Great posting, Herms.

Steve Dennis is on the radio saying he's hearing from some on the team that Owens was loafing some routes and ad-libbing others yesterday.

And if you notice, Parcells even said at his PC today that there seemed to be a less-than-full understanding of the offense from TO, and that it showed up a little yesterday.

Galloway heard the same thing about the ad-libbing from his scout for a neutral team, but I know anything he says, even if true, will be immediately discounted. :)
 

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WV Cowboy;1081485 said:
So that's a reason to hate ?

Why am I talking to you, you "name" says it all.

A broken hand does hamper a WR some I would think, so just be patient, if we can figure a way to get him the ball, instead of, "he's double covered, we can't throw it to him", he will do lot's of things to love with the ball.

Stop the hating until he does something wrong.


Stop the praise until he starts earning his money.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1081479 said:
Part of the problem is Bledsoe under pressure, but part is very possibly that TO is not what he was. And he's the only one can prove he is.....perhaps instead of throwing his arms in the air when Bledsoe throws a pick in front of him, he could actually chase down the intercepter. Perhaps he could refine his route running. His hands have never been that great, and his finger is broken, so perhaps he could understand that under those circumstances, and when he's doubled by coverage he can't escape, it's really not such a tragedy the QB under pressure does not throw his way.
He did say he would be working harder and trying to get better.

I think he downed both interceptions that were "underthrown in front of him" yesterday, and I think it was DB that stopped running on the 102 yd int he threw, ... only Barber tried to catch him.

When Owens does something wrong, come see me, until then, .. stop the hating and nitpicking.
 
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