In Defense of the Two Dak Interceptions

[Fla Cowpoke]

I'd welcome seeing camera views that bear that out.

Pay the money for the all 22. That's what I did.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He needs no defense. He is a rookie learning the pro game. Given that he appears to be a student of the game, it will come with time.

Not to mention the first one isn't even his fault. It's not like he made Dez slip.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Pay the money for the all 22. That's what I did.

Dez cleared the coverage at the Giants 40, Dak didn't throw until he was at the Giants 30. If he lets it go when Dez breaks open it's a big gain and almost no chance of pick.

 

[Kevinicus]

The one that bothered me the most was the one that wasn't intercepted late in the game that he threw to Cromartie.

 

[T-RO]

I didn't see the all 22, but I think he had Witten and maybe Zeke (unless it was dopey Dunbar) on the 3rd and 16 in the flat for check-downs, something Dak has been willing to do to avoid negatives, but he threw it down the middle into double coverage instead. He's been terrific all year in protecting the ball, made a bad decision there and it cost them.

Would the check-downs have given us a first down?

I'd rather have a go deep in that situation and either get a first or TD. A 40 yard pass INT isn't a particularly bad a result in the situation...and if Dez had shown better awareness that could easily have been tackled inside the ten. That's worst case, if Dez sees the ball and reacts.

 

[Doomsay]

-The second throw has been widely criticized but I don't believe it was all that bad. Yes there was double coverage, but you've got to trust Dez in that situation...that he can make a good play on the ball...and if he can't he will play defender and bat the ball down. And let's not forget it's 3rd and 15...so even if Dez can't catch it...you like to think he can tackle the interceptor and pin the Giants inside the 10 yard line. In other words: it's the equivalent of a good punt.
Sunday.

First Int was totally on Dez, I can't remember him falling unassisted on too many cuts, so it doesn't seem to be a recurring issue. As you said though, the ball was well thrown.

I don't see anything that was good about the 3rd Q pick - however, in Dak's defense, nothing seemed open other than a 5-8 yd play underneath (that might have given the team a sporting 4th down chance - or an easier inside the 10 punt).

I'm pretty sure Dez couldn't have gotten to the ball if he had sprinted all out ... even without 2 defenders ahead of him, much less with the safety sitting there in center field. Also, there were 2 defenders around the ball & Dez was the only Cowboy within 20 yards of the interception, I'm not sure that's a good strategy for preventing a runback.

 

[xwalker]

Stop making stuff up. Dez slipped from the beginning of the cut, there was nothing exaggerated about it. You attempts to blame Dez on everything just magnifies your bias. Have a little dignity!

Did you see other players falling down?

The fact that you don't understand something does mean that it is not true.

 

[Doomsday101]

It's true the second was bad, but it was on 3rd and 15 with a deep pass.

The shame is Dez not being in the vicinity to make the tackle soon after the catch, because it would have basically been a punt with upside.

Not placing blame on Dez, I just think the two guys weren't on the same page.

I don't disagree frankly to me it looked as if Dez was not expecting it. Not saying that was the case only that it appeared that way to me.

I would say it different than a punt considering you have more than 1 guy down field trying to make the tackle in this case once he got by Dez there was nothing but open space.

 

[xwalker]

I'd welcome seeing camera views that bear that out.

What he does not understand is that on a long throw like that, the ball has to be thrown before the point that you see the WR open. A QB can't throw to a spot that was not where the play was designed to go and magically expect that the WR will both be open at that spot and expect the ball to be coming to him.

The WR has to run the route as planned and the QB either throws it where it was planned or he does not throw it. The QB can't wait for the WR to flash open and then decide to throw it because the WR and DBs will be in different positions by the time the ball arrives on a long throw like that.

 

[Clove]

My own take 1st one was on due to slip by Dez, Dak put the ball where he needed it to be and on time there is no way to know the WR is going to slip.

2nd in my view was on Dak trying to force the issue.

True, and I know the guy is smart, I don't think he was thinking that second pass was as good as a punt. Bad decision. But we move on from it.

 

[LucaBrasi]

Would the check-downs have given us a first down?

I'd rather have a go deep in that situation and either get a first or TD. A 40 yard pass INT isn't a particularly bad a result in the situation...and if Dez had shown better awareness that could easily have been tackled inside the ten. That's worst case, if Dez sees the ball and reacts.

No, likely they wouldn't, but a punt deep into Giants territory would have been preferable to a pick and 30 yard return (I understand too your point that 88 can make a tackle there and its same as punt). That was not a good decision, although on replay Prescott has pressure from his right and he looks like he's unable to throw that ball to the right hash where Bryant has a chance or perhaps even get the ball to the checkdown since they were to his right as well.

He's been so good with decision making for the most part, it's rare to see that throw from him. Like I said, that pressure from the right may have influenced it. Can't remember if it was 78 for the Giants or not, but he has his hand extended almost into Dak's throwing motion too.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

The interceptions he threw were way down the list of any problems on Sunday. The problem is that people were propping him up on his low interception total when it is largely a luck/situational stat. He could have double the amount of interceptions right now and it wouldn't mean he was playing any better or worse.
No, his low interception total was basically because he simply wasn't trying enough and playing it safe... and I was actually proud of him for giving Dez a shot in a situation where he wasn't obviously open. It was a good play.

Your point would make sense if Dak wasn't top 5 in most qb stats including YPC, total yards and TD to Int ratio. He isn't dink and dunking his way through his rookie season like Wentz

 

[Doomsday101]

True, and I know the guy is smart, I don't think he was thinking that second pass was as good as a punt. Bad decision. But we move on from it.

I agree. I find one thing interesting that some see nothing out of Dak leading this team to 11-2 but Dak is getting the blame for the loss. So in some peoples eyes any win by Dak means nothing but you lose and it was all him.

 

[SlammedZero]

Eli and the Giants sure seem to get lucky more often than we do.

Seriously! I swear the Giants sold their soul(s) to the devil or have some voodoo doll or something crazy. Luckiest team I've ever seen play a sport.

 

[Clove]

I agree. I find one thing interesting that some see nothing out of Dak leading this team to 11-2 but Dak is getting the blame for the loss. So in some peoples eyes any win by Dak means nothing but you lose and it was all him.

If you win 11, okay, if you lose 1, OMG, we need a QB change.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

What he does not understand is that on a long throw like that, the ball has to be thrown before the point that you see the WR open. A QB can't throw to a spot that was not where the play was designed to go and magically expect that the WR will both be open at that spot and expect the ball to be coming to him.

The WR has to run the route as planned and the QB either throws it where it was planned or he does not throw it. The QB can't wait for the WR to flash open and then decide to throw it because the WR and DBs will be in different positions by the time the ball arrives on a long throw like that.

What you don't understand is that Dak was looking at Dez the whole way and waited till he came open before throwing it into coverage. It was a poor choice, but keep on blaming Dez because DEZ SUCKS.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you win 11, okay, if you lose 1, OMG, we need a QB change.

That is what I am trying to wrap my mind around. It seem that there are some not willing to give Dak credit for winning 11 straight but falling over each other to blame him on the 1 loss. lol

Amazing and a bit embarrassing hearing other fans laughing about it, even some of my co worker (Texan fans) think this is pretty funny how a QB who had lead his team to 11-2 is not being attacked in this fashion.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did you see other players falling down?

The fact that you don't understand something does mean that it is not true.

He lost his footing on an outside in move to set up the slant. Tell us what the 'proper' technique is that should have been as opposed to your typical nonsense.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your point would make sense if Dak wasn't top 5 in most qb stats including YPC, total yards and TD to Int ratio. He isn't dink and dunking his way through his rookie season like Wentz

He doesn't throw within 5 yards of the los but his attempts over 15 yards are infrequent and poor. PEople clogging the intermediate zones is a big reason his play has gone into the toilet.

 

[xwalker]

What you don't understand is that Dak was looking at Dez the whole way and waited till he came open before throwing it into coverage. It was a poor choice, but keep on blaming Dez because DEZ SUCKS.

He threw the ball to where Dez would have been if he didn't bail out on the route. The WR has to know before the throw where to go. Dak can't just throw it over to the right side because by the time Dez can see that where it is going it would be too late for him to adjust.

The QB either throws that pass or does not throw it. The delay in the ball getting downfield prevents a QB from just freelancing.

If he had thrown it to the right and Dez had run the correct route between the Safety and CB, then the CB would have intercepted it instead of the Safety.