In Defense of the Two Dak Interceptions

[xwalker]

He lost his footing on an outside in move to set up the slant. Tell us what the 'proper' technique is that should have been as opposed to your typical nonsense.

He lends over at a 45 degree angle and cuts into the DB on a cold hard field. That is not proper technique. A WR has to maintain balance in that situation, especially on a timing throw.

 

[Doomsay]

Would the check-downs have given us a first down?

No, Dunbar & Witten were shallow and covered. Maybe if it was 21 instead of 25 coming out of the backfield..but that wasn't the personnel.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

He threw the ball to where Dez would have been if he didn't bail out on the route. The WR has to know before the throw where to go. Dak can't just throw it over to the right side because by the time Dez can see that where it is going it would be too late for him to adjust.

The QB either throws that pass or does not throw it. The delay in the ball getting downfield prevents a QB from just freelancing.

If he had thrown it to the right and Dez had run the correct route between the Safety and CB, then the CB would have intercepted it instead of the Safety.

As I have said, Dez broke clear 12 yards down field and and that is when the pass should have been thrown. It was thrown 10 yards later leading it into coverage.

 

[xwalker]

As I have said, Dez broke clear 12 yards down field and and that is when the pass should have been thrown. It was thrown 10 yards later leading it into coverage.

I can see the play both on the broadcast view and the All-22 view. You don't need to keep repeating it.

You just don't understand that it take time for the ball to get downfield. The WR has to know where to expect the ball because by the time he can pick up it's exact trajectory, it's too late.

There is no point discussing it because if you don't understand basic NFL football by now, I'm not going to be able to teach you over the internet.

 

[T-RO]

No, Dunbar & Witten were shallow and covered. Maybe if it was 21 instead of 25 coming out of the backfield..but that wasn't the personnel.

Then I stand by my preference for throwing it up and seeing if Dez can make a play.

 

[Idgit]

Then I stand by my preference for throwing it up and seeing if Dez can make a play.

On a 50/50 ball, I'd agree with you. Not into double coverage. That 2nd pick was one of the few bad decisions we've seen Dak make this whole season, though. But it was a bad decision, for sure.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I can see the play both on the broadcast view and the All-22 view. You don't need to keep repeating it.

You just don't understand that it take time for the ball to get downfield. The WR has to know where to expect the ball because by the time he can pick up it's exact trajectory, it's too late.

There is no point discussing it because if you don't understand basic NFL football by now, I'm not going to be able to teach you over the internet.

There are the two pics. A throw on a line as Dez hits Giants 40 is an easy catch....waiting till he gets to 30 is a pick into coverage.

 

[Doomsay]

Then I stand by my preference for throwing it up and seeing if Dez can make a play.

Was able to look at the all 22, just trying help you out with info.

 

[T-RO]

On a 50/50 ball, I'd agree with you. Not into double coverage. That 2nd pick was one of the few bad decisions we've seen Dak make this whole season, though. But it was a bad decision, for sure.

If it was first or second down...absolutely bad decision. If we needed 7 or 10 yards...bad decision.

I look at the odds like this:
-40% chance he catches it and almost a sure TD on the play or right after
-40% chance it's incomplete
-15% chance it's the equivalent of a fumble
-5% chance it's intercepted and returned +30 yards

A completion of 8 or 10 yards just leads to a punt anyway! That play doesn't earn criticism but doesn't help earn a win.

The play looks so lame *only because* Dez never even saw the ball. On any pass play if the receiver doesn't see the ball...bad things will happen.

How does Dez not even look?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He lends over at a 45 degree angle and cuts into the DB on a cold hard field. That is not proper technique. A WR has to maintain balance in that situation, especially on a timing throw.

I asked what the proper technique is and what basis you have for said claim.

 

[Idgit]

...How does Dez not even look?

He probably thought the ball wasn't coming to him because he was so obviously covered.

There wasn't a 40% chance he catches that ball, though. And the chance of it getting picked was a lot higher than 5%, as we saw. It's ok. All QBs have throws they'd take back. I'm pretty sure Dak would say that was one he'd want back if he had it to do over again.

 

[xwalker]

I asked what the proper technique is and what basis you have for said claim.

I asked why you think Martin Lawrence is better than John Wayne.

 

[LatinMind]

All interceptions are not equal in end-result and some are 100% on the receiver and 0% the fault of the quarterback.

Consider these two interceptions
-A throw to the sideline that is returned sixty for a TD.
-A fifty-yard hail-mary at the end of a half....that gets batted around and caught by a defender.

The first is really, really bad...The second is 'meh.'

Good quarterback play and winning football mandates a level of risk that sometimes results in an interception. If there is 5 seconds left in the game and you are down 4 points...you damn well better throw a catchable ball into the end zone and risk an interception.

Dak has had four interceptions all season.

Consider the two intercepted passes on Sunday night:

-We all know on the first one where Dez cut awkwardly and fell down. I want to emphasize: that was a very well thrown ball. 0% blame on Prescott there. It's a timing throw...you can't wait for the receiver.

-The second throw has been widely criticized but I don't believe it was all that bad. Yes there was double coverage, but you've got to trust Dez in that situation...that he can make a good play on the ball...and if he can't he will play defender and bat the ball down. And let's not forget it's 3rd and 15...so even if Dez can't catch it...you like to think he can tackle the interceptor and pin the Giants inside the 10 yard line. In other words: it's the equivalent of a good punt.

The reality is that Dez never seemed to see the ball at all. I don't understand why.

Dak's worst 'interceptions' this year--ones where the throw or his decision-making was really bad--have been dropped. There have been a handful of those, but nothing overly problematic. He's been superb in ball protection all season, including Sunday.

the first one wasnt his fault at all. the throw was where it was supposed to be, but dez fell.

the second one is his fault. shouldnt have been thrown with the deep safety help.

 

[xwalker]

There are the two pics. A throw on a line as Dez hits Giants 40 is an easy catch....waiting till he gets to 30 is a pick into coverage.

How many times do I need to tell you that I can see both the All-22 and the broadcast view. I don't need still photos.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

How many times do I need to tell you that I can see both the All-22 and the broadcast view. I don't need still photos.

Maybe enough times to admit you were wrong. Dez broke clear 12 yds down field and any throw towards the hash marks was wide open. Yet he waited and threw a rainbow that was an easy pick. Of course, it wasn't his fault though.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I asked why you think Martin Lawrence is better than John Wayne.

Loaded question with a false premise. Can you tone down the racist overtones by mentioning black actors exclusively when I specifically told you that I thought biasing along those lines was asinine?

Your dodge indicates that you don't know btw. Noted and not surprising.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

How many times do I need to tell you that I can see both the All-22 and the broadcast view. I don't need still photos.

You do realize that you are not the only person reading the thread don't you. The stills are much more compelling than your assertions without substance.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

All interceptions are not equal in end-result and some are 100% on the receiver and 0% the fault of the quarterback.

Consider these two interceptions
-A throw to the sideline that is returned sixty for a TD.
-A fifty-yard hail-mary at the end of a half....that gets batted around and caught by a defender.

The first is really, really bad...The second is 'meh.'

Good quarterback play and winning football mandates a level of risk that sometimes results in an interception. If there is 5 seconds left in the game and you are down 4 points...you damn well better throw a catchable ball into the end zone and risk an interception.

Dak has had four interceptions all season.

Consider the two intercepted passes on Sunday night:

-We all know on the first one where Dez cut awkwardly and fell down. I want to emphasize: that was a very well thrown ball. 0% blame on Prescott there. It's a timing throw...you can't wait for the receiver.

-The second throw has been widely criticized but I don't believe it was all that bad. Yes there was double coverage, but you've got to trust Dez in that situation...that he can make a good play on the ball...and if he can't he will play defender and bat the ball down. And let's not forget it's 3rd and 15...so even if Dez can't catch it...you like to think he can tackle the interceptor and pin the Giants inside the 10 yard line. In other words: it's the equivalent of a good punt.

The reality is that Dez never seemed to see the ball at all. I don't understand why.

Dak's worst 'interceptions' this year--ones where the throw or his decision-making was really bad--have been dropped. There have been a handful of those, but nothing overly problematic. He's been superb in ball protection all season, including Sunday.

I've been saying this all week. Neither pic was on Dak. It was a tough night. Then the Dez fumble when we had a clear chance to get moving. I can't prove it but I think we would have scored on that next to last drive on the strength of Dez finally getting one and getting energized. One could argue Dez had a far worse night than Dak.

 

[DallasCowboys2080]