CFZ In the “Player Safety” era, players aren’t playing as long and rosters churn mightily

blueblood70

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Volume back. Bell-cow back. These notions are dying--and for good reason. It's all about production-per-play, and 95% of teams have learned you want two, even three backs spreading the load and packing the punch.

Oh and this: Zeke is done. Complete JAG at this point. Most everyone sees it.
but pay zeke 2 yrs 12 mil to play or to sit..either way you pay,..if its RBBC then both should be cut, go all young. malik step up draft guy and get younger FA VET for the short yardage and blocking..,done.
lost of options.
75% of teams maybe leaning this way but soem still pay the GB just signed Jones then a year later get him to restructure for 11mil per..
 

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You know who had those stats first? The agents. They teach their players to have that mercenary attitude coming in as they should. The pot of gold is that 2nd contract and those not drafted on day one will push themselves for that. Perhaps too hard.

Fans speak about the lack of loyalty as compared to pre FA days. That wasn't loyalty, it was indentured servitude. You think GB, PIT, DAL, MIN, MIA and OAK were going to keep those teams together if the players had a choice? DAL would not have been able to keep Staubach, Lilly, Jordan and Green on the team.
Why call the mercenaries? They are employees of businesses, like any other average American working a job, except they are getting to do a job they love, unlike many Americans for a much better salary.

When owners want to move teams, because a city doesn’t want to fit the bill, and teams don’t share any profits other than the intangibles “creating jobs” and “boosting the economy” what do we call that?
 

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I think this could also point to the fact guys lasted longer, because they were guaranteed the type of money they are today in a much shorter time. The game was much more physical then, meaning more taxing, so they had to stay on.

Nowadays guys don’t have to kill their bodies nor do they want to. They get the money and bounce.
 

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Jerry used to say attrition cost us 25-30% every year, so your 40% is interesting.
Bill Parcells said these similar numbers when he took over for Dallas. He said 28% to 35%, depending how good the teams were. A very good team would still see up to 25% turnover.

I believe that year bill getting rid of players and bringing in his own guys was 35% to 38%. The following year it was down.
 

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It may seem strange but in the era of increased player safety, the average career of an NFL player is now only 3 seasons which is down an avg of two years since 2000. Byron Jones’ announced retirement at age 30 at the height of his earning power is a reminder that these NFL players are gladiators who are paid well but aren’t lasting as long as their predecessors of the last 30 years. And the roster churn that happens every off-season means more than 40% of the roster we had in Dallas in 2022 won’t be here next year.

Modern NFL players are not playing as long as the past. Look at the evidence by decade:
  • In the 1990s, there were 83 players who appeared in 150 or more games.
  • From 2000-09, that number dropped to 63.
  • From 2010-19, it was down to 37.
And…NFL rosters churn quite a bit every year. NFL rosters are extremely unstable. On average only 56% of players return to the same team from one year to the next and two years out it is just around 35%. That means each year the average NFL team will keep a little more than half of their players on their active roster.

So which Cowboys players will be the more than 40% of the roster we say goodbye to this year?


Here’s a link to an article by I read by over the cap.com from 2020 that has some of the info I shared here.
https://overthecap.com/roster-turnover-in-the-nfl
If a team keep all of it's draft picks, which seem Dallas pretty much does. That 13.2% right there, based on 7 of 53.
Parcells said 28% to 35% as I posted above. We hit nearly 40% a few times.

Yes players are having less time in the NFL now. However With expansion teams, so after 2000, hence that drop, expanded rosters and practice squads, older player retiring earlier, due to salary increases vs. rookie contracts. That could be part of the reason. Also younger players saturate teams now with that less pay, plus the extra players. There are more players coming out of college to replace them that are better. This drop occurred since the salary cap.

A team drafts a player in the 6th or 7th round. Then a year or 2 later, they find a 5th round that is better, but also keep that years draft picks in the 6th and 7th over the previous year or 2 two years, due to saturation they are better players or better potential, and could be based on need at positions.

So yeah, I can see the rise in that nearing 40%.

Dallas has about 30 FA's, actually a little less than normal. That is 56.6% based on 53 man roster. Which they will re-sign 10 to 15 of them.
Say they bring back 15, 15 are gone plus the 7 draft picks, that is 22 so the 41.5%. Though that number is not indicative of the entire situation.
 

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A team drafts a player in the 6th or 7th round. Then a year or 2 later, they find a 5th round that is better, but also keep that years draft picks in the 6th and 7th over the previous year or 2 two years, due to saturation they are better players or better potential, and could be based on need at positions
This is an excellent point.......remember back in the 80s/90s most late round picks never made the teams. I think today they are finding a place for these players on special teams coz cheap labor. Hell, if I remember correctly we had starters playing ST in the 90s.
 

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75% of teams maybe leaning this way but soem still pay the GB just signed Jones then a year later get him to restructure for 11mil per..
Packers tailback run distribution this season
Aaron Jones, 213 carries (12.5 carries per game)
AJ Dillion, 186 (10.9 carries per game)
P Taylor, 10

No "bell cow", no "volume back". The only teams where one RB got more than 20 carries a game? (and even them barely over 20)
-Titans (losing season)
-Raiders (losing season)

Jones contract was tweaked, but not extended.
 

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There are the same number of players in the league every year.

I kind of wonder if what is going on is that college players are coming in bigger, stronger and better prepared. As a result, they are pushing out veterans more frequently than they did in the past.
That's exactly it.

And then in the long run, youth edges out the age. But especially defensive players...getting bigger, stronger, faster...

It also has to do with the overall population being higher.
 

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What's the real cause of shorter careers?
Analytics and self-scouting.

Until the past five years players could often stay in the league well after they deserved to because they had a big-name. Now most teams scrutinize and measure without so much emotional sentiment.

Emmitt Smith's last four years in the league?
3.9 yards per carry
3.8
2.8
3.5

He was toast, but he kept getting a roster spot and carries because of his reputation. Smith played 13 years. If he came into the league now he'd only have lasted 6-8 years.
Man, I say this every time. But I actually don't even like Emmitt. He was so selfish at the end of his career and really held the team back.

Hambrick was far better than him there at the end, which is sad to say.

But Emmitt brought it upon himself...

Emmitt was the epitome of leaving meat on the bone.
 

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Packers tailback run distribution this season
Aaron Jones, 213 carries (12.5 carries per game)
AJ Dillion, 186 (10.9 carries per game)
P Taylor, 10

No "bell cow", no "volume back". The only teams where one RB got more than 20 carries a game? (and even them barely over 20)
-Titans (losing season)
-Raiders (losing season)

Jones contract was tweaked, but not extended.
smart give a part time rb 11 mil awesome. Again, im correct that big $ to 1 rb..if you want t RBBC the best rb needs to beat under 7mil;..reality. so teams chose go like KC and eagles and change rbs a lot or pay a rb and use him as the bell cow with nice change of pace behind him..its called finding your identity and the DC OC had no identity bi- polar play calling.
 

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its more of the way the world functions

People dont have loyalty to jobs and they shouldnt...

make your money and leave the job doesnt have loyalty to you because if you think you come before their budget you crazy
 
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