Initial Restructures

[CowboyoWales]

So with less than a week before we have to find $16m in space to get under the threshold at the beginning of the season which players will we cut/restructured immediately....assuming that we'll do just enough to start with and then take longer term measures later on in the off-season.

 

[jujoboys]

So with less than a week before we have to find $16m in space to get under the threshold at the beginning of the season which players will we cut/restructured immediately....assuming that we'll do just enough to start with and then take longer term measures later on in the off-season.

You can add about $3.5 million to that number when we place the 2nd round tender on RFA T Steele so we need to clear almost $20 million..

We can clear about $30 million with Dak and Tyron. Depending on what they do with Zeke (cut or cut salary) we can save $5 million or more. Those 3 moves alone would give us $15 million or more in Cap room.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You can add about $3.5 million to that number when we place the 2nd round tender on RFA T Steele so we need to clear almost $20 million..

We can clear about $30 million with Dak and Tyron. Depending on what they do with Zeke (cut or cut salary) we can save $5 million or more. Those 3 moves alone would give us $15 million or more in Cap room.

Sorry didn't make it clear, I'm aware we can make the restructures/cuts but which we'll do before the (I think) the 15th the first day of season....whether we look to waiting on Zeke/Tyron/Lewis to get the benefit this season of the post June cut, or we wait on the amount of Dak restructure, depending on how much we require to fit in the FA'S we sign.

 

[Carson]

Dak is extended

Zeke takes pay cut

Smith is extended to lower cap

Martin is restructured

Should give us around $50 million. You could even release Lewis for another 4-5 million. Extending Pollard also lowers his cap hit. So you could essentially have $60 million

 

[cnuball21]

Dak is extended

Zeke takes pay cut

Smith is extended to lower cap

Martin is restructured

Should give us around $50 million. You could even release Lewis for another 4-5 million. Extending Pollard also lowers his cap hit. So you could essentially have $60 million

Might take a Lawrence restructure as well but completely feasible.

Go all in for 2 years and if it doesn’t work out eat the dead money and tank for 1 season to go after a new QB.

 

[big dog cowboy]

With the upcoming new tv deal and expected big jump in the salary cap, extend everyone except Zeke.

Designate him as a June 1st cut. The Cowboys can generate a TON of cap space if they want.

 

[jazzcat22]

With the upcoming new tv deal and expected big jump in the salary cap, extend everyone except Zeke.

Designate him as a June 1st cut. The Cowboys can generate a TON of cap space if they want.

2024 when the new TV contracts start, it is expected to be around $256 million.
They can extended everyone including Zeke, push that money further out. And be in good shape.

However, they need to write those contracts as to get out of them with lesser cap hit then what they are now. But will any player agree to such a deal. If presented in a way to still make their guaranteed money, as opposed to being on the street, and possibly get offered less, they might.

 

[jujoboys]

Sorry didn't make it clear, I'm aware we can make the restructures/cuts but which we'll do before the (I think) the 15th the first day of season....whether we look to waiting on Zeke/Tyron/Lewis to get the benefit this season of the post June cut, or we wait on the amount of Dak restructure, depending on how much we require to fit in the FA'S we sign.

Dak and Tyron done prior to the 15th.

Zeke will be done after the 15th. We can slow play this one. Personally, I would go to him and say take a pay cut in 2023 from $10.9 million to $3 million. That would be $7.9 million in savings on the cap. If he refuses then cut him AFTER we have a replacement on the roster.

Lewis will be done after the 15th (if we do it) - We can slow play this one too. Wait to we have a replacement on the team before cutting him.

Hopefully they don't touch DLaw 's contract. DLaw for 2023 and 2024 then move on. 2024 is cheap at $10 million salary and I don't want him for 2025 and beyond due to age.

Hopefully they don't touch Gallup's contract. He needs to prove he is worthy of what he is getting now. We don't need to tie him to us longer if we get the Gallup from 2022.

Maybe look at extending Armstrong after the 15th. Not a priority at the start of free agency.

Maybe look at extending Martin after the 15th. Not a priority at the start of free agency.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You can add about $3.5 million to that number when we place the 2nd round tender on RFA T Steele so we need to clear almost $20 million..

We can clear about $30 million with Dak and Tyron. Depending on what they do with Zeke (cut or cut salary) we can save $5 million or more. Those 3 moves alone would give us $15 million or more in Cap room.

So with less than a week before we have to find $16m in space to get under the threshold at the beginning of the season which players will we cut/restructured immediately....assuming that we'll do just enough to start with and then take longer term measures later on in the off-season.

You dump Tyron and Zeke and that opens up 24 million right there. I would do them both without hesitation. And they wouldnt be restructures they would be cuts.

 

[jujoboys]

You dump Tyron and Zeke and that opens up 24 million right there. I would do them both without hesitation. And they wouldnt be restructures they would be cuts.

Actually dumping Tyron ($9.6 million cap savings) and Zeke ($4.8 million cap savings) only opens up $14.4 million of cap savings. due to prorated bonuses that would accelerate. Yes, it would be $24.5 million in salary that Jerry could invest in keeping his yacht refueled but unfortunately it would not be $24.5 million in cap savings for the Cowboys.

Zeke - I am fine with cutting him immediately. However, the other option is cutting his salary to $3 million. If he accepts the cut then we save $7.9 million on the cap this year. If we just outright cut him then we only save $4.8 million on the cap this year unless we make him a June 1st cut. If we make him a June 1st cut then we save $10.8 million the cap this year. However, we don't have access to that cap space until June 1.

Tyron - A $9.6 million cap savings would be great. However, our OLine has some issues with depth right now and finding good depth at OLine in free agency is tough. If we cut Tyron then that means we enter free agency with no LG and a RT that is still coming back from injury. We also don't have a viable swing tackle or anyone that has proven they can be a back up center or G. We could sign Jason Peters for Swing tackle but he has proven that if he gets more than 15-20 plays per game then he is just an injury waiting to happen at his age. By keeping Tyron we have someone that can play LT or RT. If we have trouble locating a LG to replace McGovern then we can slide Tyler Smith to LG and put Tyron at LT. If we locate the LG but Steele suffers a set back and is not ready for the start of the season then we can plug Tyron in at RT and leave Tyler Smith at LT. I know Tyron's injury history is concerning but we have tons of depth issues at OLine.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Teams do what they want to do.. Read this nugget on Rodgers.." As for the Packers, they would take on $40,313,570 in dead money if they were to trade him. This is the prorated portion of the contract that comes from his $40.8 million bonus received last season and the remaining proration from a $14.26 million bonus from 2019 and a $14.465 million bonus from 2021. These costs do not travel to the new team." Dallas can manipulate the cap just like any other team. They chose not to.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Actually dumping Tyron ($9.6 million cap savings) and Zeke ($4.8 million cap savings) only opens up $14.4 million of cap savings. due to prorated bonuses that would accelerate. Yes, it would be $24.5 million in salary that Jerry could invest in keeping his yacht refueled but unfortunately it would not be $24.5 million in cap savings for the Cowboys.

Zeke - I am fine with cutting him immediately. However, the other option is cutting his salary to $3 million. If he accepts the cut then we save $7.9 million on the cap this year. If we just outright cut him then we only save $4.8 million on the cap this year unless we make him a June 1st cut. If we make him a June 1st cut then we save $10.8 million the cap this year. However, we don't have access to that cap space until June 1.

Tyron - A $9.6 million cap savings would be great. However, our OLine has some issues with depth right now and finding good depth at OLine in free agency is tough. If we cut Tyron then that means we enter free agency with no LG and a RT that is still coming back from injury. We also don't have a viable swing tackle or anyone that has proven they can be a back up center or G. We could sign Jason Peters for Swing tackle but he has proven that if he gets more than 15-20 plays per game then he is just an injury waiting to happen at his age. By keeping Tyron we have someone that can play LT or RT. If we have trouble locating a LG to replace McGovern then we can slide Tyler Smith to LG and put Tyron at LT. If we locate the LG but Steele suffers a set back and is not ready for the start of the season then we can plug Tyron in at RT and leave Tyler Smith at LT. I know Tyron's injury history is concerning but we have tons of depth issues at OLine.

We save 11 million by cutting Zeke and 13 by cutting Tyrone. Thats 24 million.

Then I would draft guard or tackle in the first round.

Steele, Martin, Biadasz, 1st Rounder, Tyler

 

[conner01]

Dak is extended

Zeke takes pay cut

Smith is extended to lower cap

Martin is restructured

Should give us around $50 million. You could even release Lewis for another 4-5 million. Extending Pollard also lowers his cap hit. So you could essentially have $60 million

Most likely all those moves are the very ones they do

 

[Coogiguy03]

Dak is extended

Zeke takes pay cut

Smith is extended to lower cap

Martin is restructured

Should give us around $50 million. You could even release Lewis for another 4-5 million. Extending Pollard also lowers his cap hit. So you could essentially have $60 million

To do absolutely nothing with

 

[jujoboys]

We save 11 million by cutting Zeke and 13 by cutting Tyrone. Thats 24 million.

Then I would draft guard or tackle in the first round.

Steele, Martin, Biadasz, 1st Rounder, Tyler

You only save $24.4 million on the cap this year if you make them post June 1st cuts so you would have to wait until June 1st to spend any of that money plus it would not help you get under the cap by March 15th.

If you make them a cut prior to June 1st and try to use them to get your cap situation right by March 15th then they only save you $14.4 million the cap.

Who is your backup Guard/Center? If the 1st rounder struggles or Biadasz/Martin gets hurt then who comes in?

Who is your swing tackle? Steele is currently coming off major surgery. What if he has a setback? What if Tyler Smith gets hurt? Who plays tackle?

It is very very rare that a team has the same 5 starting OLineman the entire year. I have zero confidence in Matt Farnick, Josh Ball, Matt Waletzko, etc.

 

[John813]

I think it's near a lock Smith stays here. Probably a deal like D-Law where Dallas gets cap relief and Smith gets some more guarantees/extended.

His revised contract becomes 1mil base + 4mil existing prorated bonus + new signing bonus prorated. Could see a smaller signing bonus but guarantees on salary.
So 1 + 4 + 4 = 9mil 2023 base cap hit for 8.6mil saved on the books.

Do the same for Zach Martin and that should get us just under so the FO can fiddle for 3 months trying to extend Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You only save $24.4 million on the cap this year if you make them post June 1st cuts so you would have to wait until June 1st to spend any of that money plus it would not help you get under the cap by March 15th.

If you make them a cut prior to June 1st and try to use them to get your cap situation right by March 15th then they only save you $14.4 million the cap.

Who is your backup Guard/Center? If the 1st rounder struggles or Biadasz/Martin gets hurt then who comes in?

Who is your swing tackle? Steele is currently coming off major surgery. What if he has a setback? What if Tyler Smith gets hurt? Who plays tackle?

It is very very rare that a team has the same 5 starting OLineman the entire year. I have zero confidence in Matt Farnick, Josh Ball, Matt Waletzko, etc.

Right so make it june 1st.

First round pick struggles? Can’t assume that.

We do need better depth. But a 13 million dollar Tyron is not the answer. Think future as well. Not just next year.

 

[jterrell]

You only save $24.4 million on the cap this year if you make them post June 1st cuts so you would have to wait until June 1st to spend any of that money plus it would not help you get under the cap by March 15th.

If you make them a cut prior to June 1st and try to use them to get your cap situation right by March 15th then they only save you $14.4 million the cap.

Who is your backup Guard/Center? If the 1st rounder struggles or Biadasz/Martin gets hurt then who comes in?

Who is your swing tackle? Steele is currently coming off major surgery. What if he has a setback? What if Tyler Smith gets hurt? Who plays tackle?

It is very very rare that a team has the same 5 starting OLineman the entire year. I have zero confidence in Matt Farnick, Josh Ball, Matt Waletzko, etc.

Yes!!! Timing matters!!
Dak and Martin and DLaw will get retructures.
That helps now.
Zeke may also get same treatment to help cap day 1.

June 1st cuts won't help now but can be used to sign the rookie class.

Guys like Gallimore and Lewis can be kept, allowed to compete in camp and cut late for the operating funds. ~8M Dallas likes to have with cap cash.

Dallas isn't looking to have 35M in cap space. They likely do need about 20M and it won't be tough to get it.

 

[jujoboys]

Right so make it june 1st.

First round pick struggles? Can’t assume that.

We do need better depth. But a 13 million dollar Tyron is not the answer. Think future as well. Not just next year.

I agree. I am fine with a June 1st cut of Tyron because it gives us plenty of time to find depth. However, I don't want to jump the gun and start cutting people without going through free agency and the draft to see if we find a legitimate replacement. If we don't find a legitimate replacement then we can just suck it up and keep Tyron for another year. Players that I am onboard with cutting this year.

Ezekiel Elliott - should be easy to replace with all of the RBs in free agency and the depth in the draft - $4.8 million cap savings if cut prior to June 1st or $10.9 million cap saving after June 1st
Jourdan Lewis - $4.7 million saved on CAP
Tyron Smith - Need a replacement first - $9.6 million cap savings if cut prior to June 1st or $13.6 million cap saving after June 1st

Players I may consider cutting

Neville Gallimore - If we are just going to make him inactive every other week then we just as well cut him and save $2.7 million on the cap
Kelvin Joseph - this doesn't save us much cap space but this guy has loser written all over him - don't really like having knuckle heads on the roster, especially when the talent level is low. Only thing that may save him is special teams.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree. I am fine with a June 1st cut of Tyron because it gives us plenty of time to find depth. However, I don't want to jump the gun and start cutting people without going through free agency and the draft to see if we find a legitimate replacement. If we don't find a legitimate replacement then we can just suck it up and keep Tyron for another year. Players that I am onboard with cutting this year.

Ezekiel Elliott - should be easy to replace with all of the RBs in free agency and the depth in the draft - $4.8 million cap savings if cut prior to June 1st or $10.9 million cap saving after June 1st
Jourdan Lewis - $4.7 million saved on CAP
Tyron Smith - Need a replacement first - $9.6 million cap savings if cut prior to June 1st or $13.6 million cap saving after June 1st

Players I may consider cutting

Neville Gallimore - If we are just going to make him inactive every other week then we just as well cut him and save $2.7 million on the cap
Kelvin Joseph - this doesn't save us much cap space but this guy has loser written all over him - don't really like having knuckle heads on the roster, especially when the talent level is low. Only thing that may save him is special teams.

Tyron doesnt play buddy. 6-8 games a year doesnt cut it. And this year hell probably get hurt in the first 8 and not play in the playoffs.

Forget about Tyron Smith. He is done and a waste of money. In the salary cap world that is an easy easy cut and savings.

You guys need to stop thinking about ONLY next year. Many cried getting rid of Collins and it was by far the right move. Draft well and play your young guys.