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mrtxstar said:
That is a widespread belief that is patenly false. It's based on the rights given to the designated NFL Commissioner in article 46 on the current CBA. However, as long as the NFL wants to operate as a business, it is subject to the rules all business bow to under law, one of which is fair treatment. That fundamental right can not be negotiated away by the CBA.
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Not only a business, but a business given a permanent anti-trust exemption.

That came up in Congress after the Ray Rice incident. Don't underestimate that angle as well.
 
Parcells4Life said:
The bottom line is the NFL is allowed to make any decision they want. What they SHOULD have done is let all evidence appear on appeal and comply with every NFLPA request then give the decision they wanted to anyway.

If they had done that Zeke would have had no recourse on procedure and the CBA says Goodell can do whatever he wants.

NFL was relyin on its own investigator Kia Roberts to keep her mouth shut. Even then they could have said her role was just to give the information to her supervisor, bent over backwards to make it appear like there was no conspiracy with all the other issues with the appeal.

It really is more laziness that the NFL thought they didn't have to do anything but roll out of bed and get what they want.
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Agreed. The kangaroo court will remain in place. The NFL will just focus on mitigating their own incompetence.
 
The DA coming out and saying he "believed" her is 100% irrelevant. He is a politician. Of course he said that. He says anything else and he loses federal funds and his job. The fact that he didn't believe there was enough to even file charges let alone convict is all that matters
 
MeTed said:
Agreed. The kangaroo court will remain in place. The NFL will just focus on mitigating their own incompetence.
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The US Appellate Courts have this now, so the focus of the kangaroo court is irrelevant.
 
I saw a little of his show (Boomer and Carlton) a few days ago. He had a legal expert on talking about the case. By the questions he asked, you can tell he had done some research and was not going to go with the mainstream media's' take on the issue. I appreciated his effort to have a balanced conversation on the issue.
 
knightrider94 said:
I saw a little of his show (Boomer and Carlton) a few days ago. He had a legal expert on talking about the case. By the questions he asked, you can tell he had done some research and was not going to go with the mainstream media's' take on the issue. I appreciated his effort to have a balanced conversation on the issue.
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That was my feeling as well. You could tell he was really trying to get a balanced conversation and not label Zeke. I think he did study and read the case.
 
CowboyStar88 said:
did anyone catch it this week?

I just finished watching it and they talked about Zeke and his case. Boomer seemed like he was in Zeke's corner. Heck I thought all the guys were in his corner. Boomer started talking about his innocents and the gal I believe her name was Judy was quick to point out that, Zeke legal team was arguing procedure. She went on to make it a point to say the DA told the public and the NFL that they didn't doubt her story, but not enough evidence to convict. Is that true?

Boomer you could tell didn't buy any of it. I was reading between the lines there.
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It will be on tonight at 11:00 PM CST on NFLN for those, like myself that missed it. I will DVR it most likely.
Also, the 1 hour long version of Dallas manhandling NY will be on today at 2:00 PM CST
 
mrtxstar said:
The Texas judge will either reaffirm or rescind his granting of the TRO and temporary injunction. If the judge reverses his decision then Zeke will be suspended the next 6 games. If the judge reaffirms his ruling then the 5th Circuit of Appeals take the case as soon as they find time which will take 6 to 8 months.
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Maybe you can answer this but doesn't the term "credible evidence" in article 46 come into question here that the NFL suspended without credible evidence and was fundamentally unfair therefore the NFLPA can state that the league is not acting in good faith in regards to the agreed upon CBA?
 
jordan4vols said:
Maybe you can answer this but doesn't the term "credible evidence" in article 46 come into question here that the NFL suspended without credible evidence and was fundamentally unfair therefore the NFLPA can state that the league is not acting in good faith in regards to the agreed upon CBA?
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I wish I had the legal expertise to answer that. As a non-attorney speaker, I would say yes. :cool:
 
Parcells4Life said:
The bottom line is the NFL is allowed to make any decision they want. What they SHOULD have done is let all evidence appear on appeal and comply with every NFLPA request then give the decision they wanted to anyway.

If they had done that Zeke would have had no recourse on procedure and the CBA says Goodell can do whatever he wants.

NFL was relyin on its own investigator Kia Roberts to keep her mouth shut. Even then they could have said her role was just to give the information to her supervisor, bent over backwards to make it appear like there was no conspiracy with all the other issues with the appeal.

It really is more laziness that the NFL thought they didn't have to do anything but roll out of bed and get what they want.
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Thankfully Kia Roberts is an honest person on this. Finally someone has the for lack of a better term, has more balls than the dictator to do the right thing.
 
Teague31 said:
The DA coming out and saying he "believed" her is 100% irrelevant. He is a politician. Of course he said that. He says anything else and he loses federal funds and his job. The fact that he didn't believe there was enough to even file charges let alone convict is all that matters
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Exactly. Some people like to get conveniently stupid when it benefits their views. You hear people on these shows with the the DA believed something like they'd say something different. I mean how often does that happen? That's when you can't take people serious on stuff like that. If it was so confident something happened they should've at least charged him or something. All this other stuff is grandstanding and trying to appeal to the lost people who believe the woman side all the time on this
 
mrtxstar said:
I absolutely abhor the relevance of the court of public opinion, what has happen to the right to privacy? The leaks of information in this case were prevalent from the beginning. Thanks to the abuse of technology and social media, the concept of privacy has vanished. I do however believe in the concept that the truth shall set you free which applies only if the truth is on your side. I think this works for Zeke and so when it is all said and done and the case rest with judges to decide this case, the NFL's disregard for fairness and Zeke's accuser's character will prove in favor of Zeke. The NFL's position has been for Zeke to prove his innocents but that is not the legal standard... It should go without saying but the legal standard is innocent until proven guilty.

The league needs to get out of the appeals business because it's just not good at it. I don't know if it's possible for that to happen before the current CBA expires but it ought to be a point of emphasis in the next negotiations. At a minimum Lisa Friel, Harold Henderson and Roger Goodell need to be offered the right to resign or have the owners outright fire them. The owners have work to do in replacing those controversial people. My suggestion to solve that problem is to hire the honorable Condoleezza Rice as the League commissioner and allow her to hire her own staff to include replacing Henderson and Friel.
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About 2 weeks ago I mentioned Condoleeza Rice as commissioner on this very forum and was slammed for it.

I think she would be excellent.
 
RXP said:
About 2 weeks ago I mentioned Condoleeza Rice as commissioner on this very forum and was slammed for it.

I think she would be excellent.
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I'm sorry that happened. Maybe it will happen to me too... if so I hope you join me in defending that opinion. :)
 
Idgit said:
NFL is trying to win the perception battle. Given they have a network behind them, they might be successful.
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The NFL Network provides the league with massive cover. Some of the best-known NFL reporters work for the network and thus for the league. Their journalistic integrity is compromised. They might be offended at that characterization, but it is absolutely true. Beyond that, the network has become something of a safety net for established reporters, and given the shaky position of traditional media, such a safety net surely is valued. Thus reporters who don't work for the league can be compromised to the extent they see the network as a possible career option.

It is interesting to me that the league receives generally strong support from the best-known, most established journalists who cover the NFL. Generally journalists are much more skeptical of an entity as powerful as the NFL. My conclusion is that reporters generally want to stay on the league's good side because they do not wish to burn career bridges.

The NFL not only owns a propaganda arm, it also owns a vehicle through which the people who write or talk about the league can have a viable career opportunity.
 
jazzcat22 said:
Roger Staubach
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As much as I think this is a good choice, I don't think they can choose somebody who is so closely associated with one team. They need somebody who appears more neutral.

Peyton Manning wouldn't work for the same reason.
 
RXP said:
As much as I think this is a good choice, I don't think they can choose somebody who is so closely associated with one team. They need somebody who appears more neutral.

Peyton Manning wouldn't work for the same reason.
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Goodell and Friel are associated with NY. Taglibue I believe was a big Commander fan. Pete Rozelle, that urged to take the commissioner job by Tex Schramm, was the GM or some high FO person of the LA Rams.
 
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