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[DallasEast]

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[CowboyStar88]

With Robinson taking that hard step to the sideline I am curious if that was an option route depending on how the DB reacted would dictate what route he would run. That would be an explanation as to why he didn't run the "slant" route they way he should have.

 

[DallasEast]

With Robinson taking that hard step to the sideline I am curious if that was an option route depending on how the DB reacted would dictate what route he would run. That would be an explanation as to why he didn't run the "slant" route they way he should have.

...so Romo was going to throw inside and short when the play was going away and outside? Not likely.

 

[DallasEast]

Another visual key is to consider down and distance--in this case, 3rd and 2.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Well done DallasEast. An unbiased point of view. I agree with you. Tony will be fine, the Cowboys are making strides this year, just have to put it all together.

 

[CowboyStar88]

...so Romo was going to throw inside and short when the play was going away and outside? Not likely.

That's not what I mean. For instance if the Corner did not bite so hard on the outside cut would Robinson have run a slant or would he have run a go route? The way Romo setup to throw that ball it looked like he wanted to take a shot down field. So since the CB did bite so hard to that outside step Robinson/romo thought hey easy completion and didn't anticipate the corner recovering so fast

 

[DallasEast]

That's not what I mean. For instance if the Corner did not bite so hard on the outside cut would Robinson have run a slant or would he have run a go route? The way Romo setup to throw that ball it looked like he wanted to take a shot down field. So since the CB did bite so hard to that outside step Robinson/romo thought hey easy completion and didn't anticipate the corner recovering so fast

Romo takes a three-step drop only. Short drops are usually indicative of short passes.

Consider down and distance. Consider how long you want to hold the ball in that situation against the defensive pass rush. Consider that he is staring Robinson down from practically jump (even though he does give a split second glance at his safety blanket, Witten, to see if the inside/top coverage has been drawn off with him). And consider that option passes sometimes involve playaction to get the safety to bite. Where's the shoulder pump? Why isn't he looking off the DB covering Robinson?

Alright. I'm calling it a night (finally).

 

[CCBoy]

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[CowboyStar88]

Romo takes a three-step drop only. Short drops are usually indicative of short passes.

Consider down and distance. Consider how long you want to hold the ball in that situation against the defensive pass rush. Consider that he is staring Robinson down from practically jump (even though he does give a split second glance at his safety blanket, Witten, to see if the inside/top coverage has been drawn off with him). And consider that option passes sometimes involve playaction to get the safety to bite. Where's the shoulder pump? Why isn't he looking off the DB covering Robinson?

Alright. I'm calling it a night (finally).

We have seen Romo throw go routes on 3 step drops and no shoulder fake. Seeing that he is staring down Robinson is why I am asking the question. teams take shots on 3rd and 2 all the time. I just can't see a player running good routes all day catching passes all day all of a sudden just decided to not run his route right. So I was trying to maybe find another reason. So that's why I asked about the option route. It's not about trying to blame Romo.

 

[CCBoy]

We have seen Romo throw go routes on 3 step drops and no shoulder fake. Seeing that he is staring down Robinson is why I am asking the question. teams take shots on 3rd and 2 all the time. I just can't see a player running good routes all day catching passes all day all of a sudden just decided to not run his route right. So I was trying to maybe find another reason. So that's why I asked about the option route. It's not about trying to blame Romo.

For humor...no one saw a Supermarket Stockboy win a Super Bowl until Kurt Warner and the Rams.

 

[CowboyStar88]

For humor...no one saw a Supermarket Stockboy win a Super Bowl until Kurt Warner and the Rams.

Ha Ccboy I should re phrase that. He has been running slants for how long? I just don't think its as easy as he just failed to run the slant wrong. Why take that hard step to the sideline I am having a problem with why you would do that if the play was just a "slant". See what I'm saying. Better?

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Ha Ccboy I should re phrase that. He has been running slants for how long? I just don't think its as easy as he just failed to run the slant wrong. Why take that hard step to the sideline I am having a problem with why you would do that if the play was just a "slant". See what I'm saying. Better?

Occum's Razor applies. There is no reason to sell the out except to make the DB bite outside so he'd have an extra step of room to make the catch for the first down. Everything about the play says slant, minus his one mistake.

He ran the route wrong because he might have thought that the DB was making a move to the inside to take away the slant. If you watch the DB's first step, he does play with inside leverage, and takes a step that direction. We'd been running that pattern during the day so Robinson probably pulled a fake to get the separation because he might not have trusted his ability to beat the DB and make the catch.

In any case, it looks like from the shots from the defensive side of the ball that Houston expected the slant, and Robinson tried to sell the outside before running it. Stupid mistake.

This offseason, and last, there was a thread or three about us not throwing the slant enough. Folks said it's almost impossible to defend and propped it up as the greatest route we weren't smart enough to exploit since it's predicated on speed and getting across the face of the DB. I've always been leery of the route simply because you're throwing inside and the potential for a tipped ball back into the middle of the field is pretty high. This is one of the other downsides to the route. If the WR fails to get across the DB, or the DB takes hard inside leverage, you end up losing possession.

 

[CCBoy]

Occum's Razor applies. There is no reason to sell the out except to make the DB bite outside so he'd have an extra step of room to make the catch for the first down. Everything about the play says slant, minus his one mistake.

He ran the route wrong because he might have thought that the DB was making a move to the inside to take away the slant. If you watch the DB's first step, he does play with inside leverage, and takes a step that direction. We'd been running that pattern during the day so Robinson probably pulled a fake to get the separation because he might not have trusted his ability to beat the DB and make the catch.

In any case, it looks like from the shots from the defensive side of the ball that Houston expected the slant, and Robinson tried to sell the outside before running it. Stupid mistake.

This offseason, and last, there was a thread or three about us not throwing the slant enough. Folks said it's almost impossible to defend and propped it up as the greatest route we weren't smart enough to exploit since it's predicated on speed and getting across the face of the DB. I've always been leery of the route simply because you're throwing inside and the potential for a tipped ball back into the middle of the field is pretty high. This is one of the other downsides to the route. If the WR fails to get across the DB, or the DB takes hard inside leverage, you end up losing possession.

A good and defining post, Salty... And Salty, was Herman's nick name foretelling of his exploits at a threatre?

 

[CCBoy]

Ha Ccboy I should re phrase that. He has been running slants for how long? I just don't think its as easy as he just failed to run the slant wrong. Why take that hard step to the sideline I am having a problem with why you would do that if the play was just a "slant". See what I'm saying. Better?

Better stated, and Salty described the elements at variable with the selection and actual manner the route was run. The fake delayed a short timed route and removed some of the ability to judge quickly and deliver with more of a target verification.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

A good and defining post, Salty... And Salty, was Herman's nick name foretelling of his exploits at a threatre?

No telling. Don't know, don't want to dwell on it.

 

[Galian Beast]

Dumb post, it was Romo's fault.

 

[nablives]

Kinda surprised that play is still up for debate, in regards to Robinson coming up a little short. Not surprised we say, "Well... 2 INTs on Romo aren't so bad."

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Kinda surprised that play is still up for debate, in regards to Robinson coming up a little short. Not surprised we say, "Well... 2 INTs on Romo aren't so bad."

Of course they're bad, this wasn't about the other two.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Ha Ccboy I should re phrase that. He has been running slants for how long? I just don't think its as easy as he just failed to run the slant wrong. Why take that hard step to the sideline I am having a problem with why you would do that if the play was just a "slant". See what I'm saying. Better?

Could the DB have made an adjustment to make the WR make the mistake?

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Clearly what Robinson ran was not a true slant route. This was improvised on the spot. If you look at the coverage, it was cover 1.

Robinson should have ran a fade (speculating) with the corner playing bump and run and only a safety in the middle (trying to stop Witten coming down the middle). Robinson after seeing the corner over commit to the sideline (he has no deep help down the sidelines) changed and tried to come back inside for the slant. He should have been wide open for an easy completion and first down.

That problem was this...Robinson hurt his right knee a few plays earlier and when he tried to plant on it, he had no power on that leg.

This interception is hard to blame on Romo. Not surprising DallasEast chose this one out of the three to highlight, lol. That said, Romo is the QB. When the ball leaves his hands, he is responsible for where it ultimately goes.