Intelligent QB Discussion

[Juke99]

Henson has the stronger arm and might be more mobile. So what? Its all in the head and how fast you can throw and how accurate you are. Romo is more accurate and seems to be more with it upstairs. And that is a lot more important then arm strength.[/QUOTE]


Based on what?

How many passes have you seen him throw? I'm just curious.

All I want is a young gun behind Bledsoe...I don't care if it's Romo, Henson, or anyone else.

But I'm just surprised that people can make assertions about Romo's ability; an undrafted QB who has yet to throw a pass in an NFL game in 3 years and a guy who initially lost out to a kid who was playing baseball for 3 years.

 

[DLCassidy]

We also know that Bledsoe said something to the effect that if he missed a game, he may never see the field again because Romo would steal the starting job.

I read a reporter offer that opinion but I don't think Bledsoe said that and I doubt he feels that way.

 

[superpunk]

Based on what?

How many passes have you seen him throw? I'm just curious.

Seeing him play is always trumped by
MOXIE!!!!!!!!

've offered my theory. Let's call it the ReShard Lee/Troy Hambrick syndrome. People see a player take over a game they had no business being in (in Romo's case, the late TD drive against ?OAK? in the preseason) and it is immediately extrapolated out to long term success and universal truths.

 

[Juke99]

Seeing him play is always trumped by
MOXIE!!!!!!!!

've offered my theory. Let's call it the ReShard Lee/Troy Hambrick syndrome. People see a player take over a game they had no business being in (in Romo's case, the late TD drive against ?OAK? in the preseason) and it is immediately extrapolated out to long term success and universal truths.

:laugh2:

So let me understand something...a guy goes into a pre-season game against guys who a week or two later are working at desk jobs in an insurance company...scores a late TD...and he is annointed?

OK. Whatever.

 

[superpunk]

So let me understand something...a guy goes into a pre-season game against guys who a week or two later are working at desk jobs in an insurance company...scores a late TD...and he is annointed?

OK. Whatever.

Maybe that's not the only thing - but that's the main thing.

How much love did Shockey get for annihilating a defender in his first preseason (HOF) game? It's a similar notion. Because there's nothing else that we've seen from Romo, although reports are good.

 

[Juke99]

Maybe that's not the only thing - but that's the main thing.

How much love did Shockey get for annihilating a defender in his first preseason (HOF) game? It's a similar notion. Because there's nothing else that we've seen from Romo, although reports are good.

...if that's the case, the title to this thread is very misleading.

 

[jksmith269]

Maybe that's not the only thing - but that's the main thing.

How much love did Shockey get for annihilating a defender in his first preseason (HOF) game? It's a similar notion. Because there's nothing else that we've seen from Romo, although reports are good.

You can NOT compare Shockey to Romo.... Shockey was a stand out at Miami and was a star before he ever stepped played a down in the NFL everyone who saw him play in College knew he would be special... You can't same any thing close to that about Romo....

 

[Juke99]

You can NOT compare Shockey to Romo.... Shockey was a stand out at Miami and was a star before he ever stepped played a down in the NFL everyone who saw him play in College knew he would be special... You can't same any thing close to that about Romo....

Yet another very valid point.

 

[superpunk]

You can NOT compare Shockey to Romo.... Shockey was a stand out at Miami and was a star before he ever stepped played a down in the NFL everyone who saw him play in College knew he would be special... You can't same any thing close to that about Romo....

I wasn't comparing them as players, LOL. Just the situation they found themselves getting hyped for. Hell, DeMarcus Ware against Seattle preseason last year. ReShard Lee against ?Minnesota?. people see those flashes and then hang on to them.

It's much easier to remember a good series from a player you rarely get to see - while singling out all the bad things you see from a player you're exposed to more. And that seems to be the problem with henson/Romo.

 

[jksmith269]

Yet another very valid point.

Until Romo starts a regular season game then he is no better than Henson... Practice and preseason mean as much as me winning the SB on Madden absolutley nothing... So until one of them step up and win a regular season game then IMO they are both backups.....

 

[Fernando Fernandez]

good luck, don quiote.

Quixote, I believe.

 

[Iago33]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that we have two backups that could fill in adequately if it came to that. They both have some experience in this offense (though not as much real experience as I would like for either), and they both have some promise. I hope they both continue to progress and make it hard to keep them both off the field this year.

Romo seems to have the accuracy and leadership--I don't know about his arm or athletic ability. Henson seems to have the arm and the athletic ability--I don't know about his mechanics or intangibles yet.

To Romo! To Henson! (I'm not playing favorites by putting Romo first!)

 

[RCowboyFan]

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that we have two backups that could fill in adequately if it came to that. They both have some experience in this offense (though not as much real experience as I would like for either), and they both have some promise. I hope they both continue to progress and make it hard to keep them both off the field this year.

Romo seems to have the accuracy and leadership--I don't know about his arm or athletic ability. Henson seems to have the arm and the athletic ability--I don't know about his mechanics or intangibles yet.

To Romo! To Henson! (I'm not playing favorites by putting Romo first!)

:laugh2: It has come to that eh? Having to explain even that...

 

[Maxmadden]

Intelligent quarterback discusssion?

Unfortunately, this will be impossible because no one on this board has a clue as to how good are backups are. Most of the posters will avoid it all together because they know its a waste of time. While some will labor to bring the extremist somewhere close to the middle ground. The rest will go on about there agenda refusing to acknowledge that over the last three years that they have seen nothing of either backup to determine anything about anything.

I only hope that Romo or Henson can rise to the occasion when and if Bledsoe goes down.

Good post NYC.

 

[Juke99]

Until Romo starts a regular season game then he is no better than Henson... Practice and preseason mean as much as me winning the SB on Madden absolutley nothing... So until one of them step up and win a regular season game then IMO they are both backups.....

I agree...and there are guys who are practice players and guys who are game players.

The one thing I did like about Henson in NFLE was when things broke down...he was very good.

In fact, I think he was better when things broke down than when the play ran as designed...and my guess is, that's because he thinks too much rather than playing to his instincts.

But yep...all of the talk about either guy, especially Romo is pure speculation because at least we've seen Henson under some game situations...even if NFLE...

 

[ZeroClub]

Despite the attempt to change his delivery, the primary knock against Henson has never involved his measurables. He's a superior athlete who is built to prototypical QB specifications.

The knock against him involves the mental game. Inexperience. Confidence. Decision making. And reading between Parcells' lines, mental toughness: the ability to respond while under fire.

My guess is that Parcells has real doubts about Henson's mental game, that Parcells talks about these doubts (knowing that the comments put Henson under extra pressure), and is waiting to see how Henson responds.

Parcells often just says what he thinks and then sees what happens. Some people call this "mind games."

And going by Parcells' comments, it seems to me that he isn't at all hung up on the "Romo or Henson, who is better?" question. Parcells is evaluating each on their own merits.

Right now, because of Romo's longevity and contract situation, Parcells has to determine what kind of future Romo is likely to have in this league and whether the Cowboys should keep him around.

Henson is on the backburner because the Cowboys don't have to make a decision about him this year. This is probably a good thing for Henson. He gets more time and reps before his test comes.....

 

[jksmith269]

I agree...and there are guys who are practice players and guys who are game players.

The one thing I did like about Henson in NFLE was when things broke down...he was very good.

In fact, I think he was better when things broke down than when the play ran as designed...and my guess is, that's because he thinks too much rather than playing to his instincts.

But yep...all of the talk about either guy, especially Romo is pure speculation because at least we've seen Henson under some game situations...even if NFLE...

Henson was more accurate when on the move than standing in the pocket.. It almost seemed like when in the pocket he was thinking way toooo much and passes where high, low, or to the sides of the WR, yet when he was on the move it was more natural and more accurate.... but thats just my observations from his time in NFLE.... Romo who knows he could be another Brady but unless one of these players get extended playing time in the regular season we will never really know what we have...

 

[Juke99]

Henson was more accurate when on the move than standing in the pocket.. It almost seemed like when in the pocket he was thinking way toooo much and passes where high, low, or to the sides of the WR, yet when he was on the move it was more natural and more accurate.... but thats just my observations from his time in NFLE.... Romo who knows he could be another Brady but unless one of these players get extended playing time in the regular season we will never really know what we have...

Yep...I saw the same thing. In the pocket, it seemed like he was WAY too deliberate....almost TOO aware of his mechanics...or that he was being reviewed/analyzed...

But when things broke down, he'd just wing it and was at his best.

 

[HDC]

I think Romo's a more likeable personality and is more athletic but is not as big or strong. He seems to have plenty of savy on the field and is able to inspire confidence. I think Henson has more upside, though. I believe his confidence was damaged in his one premature start. Instead of giving him false confidence, I believe BP has forced him to work for it himself. In the end I believe he will be a solid starter, maybe even an outstanding one. I see Romo as more like Jake Plummer; Henson, as more like Aikman.

 

[NYCowboy22]

I just watched the drive that Romo led against the Raiders. It was not as impressive as all of you may have remembered. If I have time tommorow, I will upload the videos that I have of both QB's in the previous years preseason. I'm looking forward to seeing how much each has progressed this year.