Interception vs Baltimore (endzone view)

[ufcrules1]

Raise your hand if you've heard this before, YOU NEVER THROW LATE OVER THE MIDDLE.

But I regress, any rookie QB could make the same mistake

lol... yup.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I thought Costa didn't slide to the left (from the camera view) to pick up the middle guy who squeezed through the left side A-gap behind Livings' man who got overextended on his block.

The interior of the pocket was compromised when Costa didn't slide over and left too much of a gap between Livings and himself to allow the defender to get by Livings.

Look at how Costa and Bernadeau are blocking one guy.

The protection got beat at the snap.

That's more on Costa not taking care of his left A-gap.

Costa could not slide to his left. He was engaged with the Tackle who was rushing to his right side, taking Costa with him. Had Costa slide left, he would have had to let his man go. The problem, so far as I can tell, is that Baltimore blitzed right up the A-Gap with three mean. They overloaded and we did not compensate. There is not right or wrong there. Costa has to pick up somebody and there were simply too many targets. Romo has to get rid of the ball sooner IMO. Livings does a horrible job of picking up his man but honestly, the only way to have any chance on that play is if Murray picks up the blitz coming right up the middle and he doesn't do that. He is forced to pick up the OLB who is also running a stunt on the left side of the formation. In that situation, Romo has to get rid of the ball. The design of the Blitz is perfectly executed and you simply have too many men shooting the A-Gap to account for.

 

[aikemirv]

It was not late, it should not have been thrown away. It was a simple miscommunication between WR and QB. If Ogletree sits a 1/4 second earlier Romo adjust, if Romo throws before he has his feet set Ogletree would have never set down where he did. If they are on the same page it is a 20 yard completion to a wide open WR.

No excuses - is what it is - an int -they happen every game.

 

[Rack]

Are we gonna keep looking for excuses on every single Romo mistake? Looks like they both take the blame to me.

It's not obvious to you that Romo thought Otree was gonna keep running?


Otree was open, no way should Romo have "thrown it away".


If anything we need to get a receiver out there that doesn't stop in the middle of his route.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I think the point is, is Romo should not ever try to throw across both hash marks. Especially while under duress. :

 

[craig71]

It looks to me that Romo was dead set on going to Witten from the get go. Ogletree was wide open early on in his route and Romo never looked as he was staring at Witten. When Romo didn't pull the trigger to Witten he shuffles his feet and throws towards Ogletree. That ball should have been out of his hand 2.5 to 3 seconds after the snap resulting in a completion instead of a INT.


Craig

 

[aikemirv]

It looks to me that Romo was dead set on going to Witten from the get go. Ogletree was wide open early on in his route and Romo never looked as he was staring at Witten. When Romo didn't pull the trigger to Witten he shuffles his feet and throws towards Ogletree. That ball should have been out of his hand 2.5 to 3 seconds after the snap resulting in a completion instead of a INT.


Craig

Except for the fact that the blitzer immediately moves Romo out of the pocket. SO line of sight towards Ogletree geting open is not the same, is it?

 

[BrassCowboy]

Romo was very late on the throw - should have hit ogletree right as he crossed the 20, right out of the break when OTs head spun around (ball in the air around the 23yd line). He threw across his body. Never should have made that throw.

That said, Livings whiffed the block. The route and play worked to perfection otherwise (no sarcasm).

yeah, you are right. For me, I can give Romo that one. He should see that on film.

 

[burmafrd]

Costa could not slide to his left. He was engaged with the Tackle who was rushing to his right side, taking Costa with him. Had Costa slide left, he would have had to let his man go. The problem, so far as I can tell, is that Baltimore blitzed right up the A-Gap with three mean. They overloaded and we did not compensate. There is not right or wrong there. Costa has to pick up somebody and there were simply too many targets. Romo has to get rid of the ball sooner IMO. Livings does a horrible job of picking up his man but honestly, the only way to have any chance on that play is if Murray picks up the blitz coming right up the middle and he doesn't do that. He is forced to pick up the OLB who is also running a stunt on the left side of the formation. In that situation, Romo has to get rid of the ball. The design of the Blitz is perfectly executed and you simply have too many men shooting the A-Gap to account for.

the one rule of blitz pickup you should never let go of is ALWAYS if there are two coming at you TAKE THE INSIDE GUY.

 

[Rack]

It looks to me that Romo was dead set on going to Witten from the get go. Ogletree was wide open early on in his route and Romo never looked as he was staring at Witten. When Romo didn't pull the trigger to Witten he shuffles his feet and throws towards Ogletree. That ball should have been out of his hand 2.5 to 3 seconds after the snap resulting in a completion instead of a INT.


Craig

Incorrect.

OTree hasn't even come out of this break yet when Romo was pressured and forced to move to his right.

You'd think there should have been some kind of route adjustment by OTree on that one. Either way. Otree was NOT open before Romo was forced to move to his right. Then when Romo targeted him he stopped his route.

 

[craig71]

Except for the fact that the blitzer immediately moves Romo out of the pocket. SO line of sight towards Ogletree geting open is not the same, is it?

Romo flushes to the right away from the pressure up the middle, that is true. If you look at Ogletree though, he is staring down Romo at around the two second mark with the defender 5 yards off. Romo at the same time is on the 46 yard line with the closest Raven on the 41 yard line. There isn't really any defender between Romo and Ogletree at this time. It seems to me that he never looked downfield after he moves off the spot until after he decided not to go to Witten. Even when Romo initially flushed to the right it doesn't appear that he looked for Ogletree at all, he just flushes right and looks for Witten. Now, could the blocking be better on that play? Absolutely. But at the same time Romo needs to do a better job of seeing the field.


Craig

 

[noshame]

Incorrect.

OTree hasn't even come out of this break yet when Romo was pressured and forced to move to his right.

You'd think there should have been some kind of route adjustment by OTree on that one. Either way. Otree was NOT open before Romo was forced to move to his right. Then when Romo targeted him he stopped his route.

There likely was a adjustment, he sat down between the LBs and S.

 

[craig71]

Incorrect.

OTree hasn't even come out of this break yet when Romo was pressured and forced to move to his right.

You'd think there should have been some kind of route adjustment by OTree on that one. Either way. Otree was NOT open before Romo was forced to move to his right. Then when Romo targeted him he stopped his route.

When Romo moves right and is standing on the 46 Ogletree is staring at Romo while Romo is staring down Witten. So yes, when Romo initially flushed right Ogletree wasn't out of his break. But after Romo moves away from pressure he could have gone to Ogletree as there was not a defender within 5 yards of either Romo or Ogletree at that point in time.


Craig

 

[Rack]

When Romo moves right and is standing on the 46 Ogletree is staring at Romo while Romo is staring down Witten. So yes, when Romo initially flushed right Ogletree wasn't out of his break. But after Romo moves away from pressure he could have gone to Ogletree as there was not a defender within 5 yards of either Romo or Ogletree at that point in time.


Craig

True. But a QB's job isn't to "Throw to the most open reciever". It's to go through his progression (starting with his primary reciever) and work his way through till he finds an open receiver. Likely Witten was his primary and his progression started late due to the immediate pressure.

Bottom line, if Romo isn't forced to his right it wouldn't have been an int.

 

[Zman5]

These are kind of plays Robinson and Romo would make all the time last year. Crayton before that.

For some reason it is not happening wiht OT since the Giants game.

 

[craig71]

True. But a QB's job isn't to "Throw to the most open reciever". It's to go through his progression (starting with his primary reciever) and work his way through till he finds an open receiver. Likely Witten was his primary and his progression started late due to the immediate pressure.

Bottom line, if Romo isn't forced to his right it wouldn't have been an int.

I don't think Witten was the primary target at the snap. I do think that Witten was the primary target as soon as he flushed though. Ofcoarse there is no sure fire way of knowing since none of us know what the play call was. I also think that Romo is not seeing the field all that well at times and is struggling with his mechanics at times also. Anyway, let us hope that these sorts of things work themselves out sooner rather than later.


Craig

 

[TheDude]

True. But a QB's job isn't to "Throw to the most open reciever". It's to go through his progression (starting with his primary reciever) and work his way through till he finds an open receiver. Likely Witten was his primary and his progression started late due to the immediate pressure.

Bottom line, if Romo isn't forced to his right it wouldn't have been an int.

NOt always, ck the 1:12 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVsMArg-bkM

 

[Rack]

I don't think Witten was the primary target at the snap. I do think that Witten was the primary target as soon as he flushed though. Ofcoarse there is no sure fire way of knowing since none of us know what the play call was. I also think that Romo is not seeing the field all that well at times and is struggling with his mechanics at times also. Anyway, let us hope that these sorts of things work themselves out sooner rather than later.


Craig

I think all that will take care of itself when the recievers run the right routes and the OL doesn't get pushed backwards.

NOt always, ck the 1:12 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVsMArg-bkM

That was "Open" back when DB's were allowed to play defense.

 

[Bluestang]

Costa could not slide to his left. He was engaged with the Tackle who was rushing to his right side, taking Costa with him. Had Costa slide left, he would have had to let his man go. The problem, so far as I can tell, is that Baltimore blitzed right up the A-Gap with three mean. They overloaded and we did not compensate. There is not right or wrong there. Costa has to pick up somebody and there were simply too many targets. Romo has to get rid of the ball sooner IMO. Livings does a horrible job of picking up his man but honestly, the only way to have any chance on that play is if Murray picks up the blitz coming right up the middle and he doesn't do that. He is forced to pick up the OLB who is also running a stunt on the left side of the formation. In that situation, Romo has to get rid of the ball. The design of the Blitz is perfectly executed and you simply have too many men shooting the A-Gap to account for.

You always want to get B-O-B blocking (big on big) in blitz pickups.

The Baltimore D lined up two guys beside each other to attack the right side A-gap, but at the snap the one guy crossed Costa's face and went through the left side A-gap as Livings got overextended on his block with his man. Both guys came up free through the left side A-gap one after the other.

The miscommunication is with Costa and Bernadeau because they double one guy while the other goes free right behind Livings' man.

If Costa slides to the left and picks up the guy that crosses his face Bernadeau is left with the other guy in front of him and Livings may or may not overextend his block.

There is alot of movement in that play and Costa's double team took him to far to the right that created a big lane for Livings' man and the other that crosses his face to get immediate pressure.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I agree with Bluestang that Costa should have taken the man to his left. One of the few plays this game that Costa wasn't spot on. Combined with the fact that Livings whiffed as well it wasn't a good snap for the OL to be sure.

Definitely looks like Romo thought Otree was going to keep running, but that cross field throw is a big no no...a LOT of Romo's interceptions come on that type of throw. Probably complete if Ogletree keeps running.

The other thing is Romo had 4 seconds....he could have thrown it away, which would have been the wise move since everyone was running away from the way he rolled to escape pressure.