Interesting blurb about David Carr by Andre Johnson

[WoodysGirl]

Even though Carr was criticized in the leadership department, that wasn't the only problem that led to his release last month.

Carr has yet to sign with another team. He interviewed with the Carolina Panthers on Tuesday and is slated to meet with the Seattle Seahawks today. Both teams are looking for a No. 2 quarterback.

Johnson said he is optimistic Carr will succeed wherever he lands. When Johnson looks back at his first few years with Carr under coach Dom Capers' staff, he says it seems Carr was never set up to succeed.

"I think (the problem) was the way he was coached my first couple of years here," Johnson said. "He was pretty much just told where to throw the ball. And a lot of people didn't know that. He was never really taught to go through reads and stuff like that.

"Coach (Gary) Kubiak came in, and that was his big thing — teaching him how to go through reads. So it was like he was taught all over again."

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[joseephuss]

That is interesting. Is that what Chris Palmer taught Romo?

I doubt that is all Carr was taught. They probably just tried to simplify the offense so much that they just wanted him to get rid of the ball as fast as possible. Make your drop and then hit that spot. They had to try anything to overcome their poor O-line.

Have the Panthers bailed on old man Chris Wienke as their #2?

 

[burmafrd]

Its clear the Texans were badly coached and badly managed. Carr was just the scapegoat.

 

[Hostile]

Its clear the Texans were badly coached and badly managed. Carr was just the scapegoat.

I concur. He needs a true mentor. I thought Kubiak would provide that. He has talent. Houston is a joke as a franchise the way they are running things right now. By year's end I expect the Schaub move to be panned as the worst of this off season. Unless they suddenly do something to support him like they never did Carr.

 

[WoodysGirl]

That is interesting. Is that what Chris Palmer taught Romo?

Palmer's influence over Romo was just for one year...and Romo was at a different place in his career when Palmer arrived.

I doubt that is all Carr was taught. They probably just tried to simplify the offense so much that they just wanted him to get rid of the ball as fast as possible. Make your drop and then hit that spot. They had to try anything to overcome their poor O-line.

Sounds as plausible as anything else.

Have the Panthers bailed on old man Chris Wienke as their #2?

He was cut at the end of the season, so they do need a backup for Delhomme.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Wow...that shed some light on the situation.

 

[BARRYRAY]

Houston blows anyway you cut it, as bad as we have been in places they're worse, anybody remember our nickel back for the last couple years, they said he was thru in Houston, another brainless decision..

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Carr is another example of a young QB being thrown into the fray way too soon.

I disagreed with a lot of Parcells philosophies, but on the one about playing young QBs too soon, I agree.

 

[joseephuss]

Houston blows anyway you cut it, as bad as we have been in places they're worse, anybody remember our nickel back for the last couple years, they said he was thru in Houston, another brainless decision..

Houston did not cut Glenn for performance reasons. It was strictly financial. They would have had to pay him a lot of money to keep him based on the contract he had with the Texans. Once released, he signed for a lot less in Dallas.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Sounds like they just simplified the offense for a rookie QB who had no business being on the field, but was thrown out there because he was deemed "the face of the francise".

Kind of remarkable that David Carr knew exactly where he was throwing the ball every snap without making a read, and he still couldn't get rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid being sacked 75 times a season. Something smells more than just a tad bogus about it.

 

[burmafrd]

the worst O line for a continuous period in the NFL; that by itself is a total indictment of the entire franchise. They did not draft high or look for high priced FAs- they did NOTHING to improve it for several years.

 

[joseephuss]

Sounds like they just simplified the offense for a rookie QB who had no business being on the field, but was thrown out there because he was deemed "the face of the francise".

Kind of remarkable that David Carr knew exactly where he was throwing the ball every snap without making a read, and he still couldn't get rid of the ball quickly enough to avoid being sacked 75 times a season. Something smells more than just a tad bogus about it.

Sounds like Andre Johnson may be looking out for his QB by diverting some of the blame toward the coaches.

 

[Hoofbite]

they should just replace the stadium with a large tent down in houston.......be a heck of a lot more fitting.

 

[Aikbach]

David Carr was never worthy of a number one overall pick to begin with, he is not a bum, he's actually a good citizen but he is immature as a leader and quarterback, the two things that were supposed to be his intangible strengths because of his early marriage and college mentor's namesake.

As it stands and remains opening day of the 2002 season is the highlight of the franchise's existence.

The day they surprised a soon to be 5-11 Cowboy team is the feather in their hat that although long since wilted and frayed, is the lone moth eaten fascade of a trophy the team can clutch to even though it is a singed straw.

 

[coogrfan]

Houston did not cut Glenn for performance reasons. It was strictly financial. They would have had to pay him a lot of money to keep him based on the contract he had with the Texans. Once released, he signed for a lot less in Dallas.

One key part of the story is missing-Glenn's contract would have been a lot for a third cb. The Texans, for reasons known only to Charlie Casserly, had recently sent 2nd and 3rd round picks to the Raiders for underacheiver Philip Buchanon. CC was convinced P-Buc was going to be a starting cb for years to come. He lasted exactly two games before losing his starting job to one DeMarcus Faggins.

CC sure does know his football, don't he?

 

[Cajuncowboy]

That is interesting. Is that what Chris Palmer taught Romo?

I doubt that is all Carr was taught. They probably just tried to simplify the offense so much that they just wanted him to get rid of the ball as fast as possible. Make your drop and then hit that spot. They had to try anything to overcome their poor O-line.

Have the Panthers bailed on old man Chris Wienke as their #2?

Yep, they cut their Wienke!

 

[Aikbach]

One key part of the story is missing-Glenn's contract would have been a lot for a third cb. The Texans, for reasons known only to Charlie Casserly, had recently sent 2nd and 3rd round picks to the Raiders for underacheiver Philip Buchanon. CC was convinced P-Buc was going to be a starting cb for years to come. He lasted exactly two games before losing his starting job to one DeMarcus Faggins.

CC sure does know his football, don't he?

Casserly is an amazing man, a terrible general manager who keeps landing jobs, the Bruce Coslet or Rich Kotite of executives.

They keep finding work and we keep wondering why.

Houston would've been better served luring Gil Brandt out of retirement then hiring Casserly, heck they would've been better served hiring Carrot Top!

 

[joseephuss]

Casserly is an amazing man, a terrible general manager who keeps landing jobs, the Bruce Coslet or Rich Kotite of executives.

They keep finding work and we keep wondering why.

Houston would've been better served luring Gil Brandt out of retirement then hiring Casserly, heck they would've been better served hiring Carrot Top!

Just a strange franchise. I remember hearing owner Bob McNair saying he didn't want a domed stadium. The City of Houston forced the dome so it could be used for other events and in particular the rodeo. A dome is needed in Houston. It is hot and humid and if Reliant was not a domed stadium I doubt Houston would have hosted a recent Superbowl. It starts at the top.

 

[Aikbach]

Just a strange franchise. I remember hearing owner Bob McNair saying he didn't want a domed stadium. The City of Houston forced the dome so it could be used for other events and in particular the rodeo. A dome is needed in Houston. It is hot and humid and if Reliant was not a domed stadium I doubt Houston would have hosted a recent Superbowl. It starts at the top.

McNair wasn't even a man the NFL wanted to do business with, he was just the only billionaire that stepped up and took an initiative for Houston.

Houston was a default city in Tagliabue's long quest to expand without reason, naturally his crown jewel that eluded him was to reinstate a team in Los Angeles.

After LA proved apathetic he quickly shifted gears to save some face and entertained heavy lobby from McNair and his business partners.

Houston tax payers are kinda' ridiculous to have fallen for the Texan plan and 5 years earlier denied the Oilers a new stadium, Bud Adams or not.

 

[CF74]

They have a team in Houston?