Interesting blurb about David Carr by Andre Johnson

[jimmy40]

Sounds like Andre Johnson may be looking out for his QB by diverting some of the blame toward the coaches.

Sounds kind of familiar doesn't it?

 

[GlitzCowboy]

Im going to say it.. I wouldn't mind it if we picked this guy up as a backup option to Romo. Romo is a good prospect but has done nothing as of yet to back up his "virtual" rookie campaign from last season. We just honestly don't know and Carr could be something interesting to work with, if for nothing else just to work on increasing his worth for a future trade possibility.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Palmer's influence over Romo was just for one year...and Romo was at a different place in his career when Palmer arrived.

plus Romo was working closely w/ a very good QB coach in David Lee in his formative years

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Houston did not cut Glenn for performance reasons. It was strictly financial. They would have had to pay him a lot of money to keep him based on the contract he had with the Texans. Once released, he signed for a lot less in Dallas.

it's funny, the guy they traded for to replace Glenn was Phillip Buchanan, I think he was cut, or got into some trouble, either way, he was bad

 

[big dog cowboy]

"I think (the problem) was the way he was coached my first couple of years here," Johnson said. "He was pretty much just told where to throw the ball. And a lot of people didn't know that. He was never really taught to go through reads and stuff like that.

I'm still surprised Kubiak let him go because of this very reason. After everything the Texans have invested in Carr, why not try to develop him instead of cut him?

 

[jrumann59]

The thing is as long as Carr has been in the NFL he may have developed bad habits that can't be untaught like Jake Plummer and like another decent QB that if he hadn't been shell shocked for so long he may have been pretty good on a good team, Jim Everett, or Chris Everett for the Rome fans.

 

[jay cee]

Anyone ever considered that the guy just wasn't smart enough to make the proper reads?

That's what it sounds like to me.

 

[burmafrd]

Part of making reads is practice; part is learning; and part of that is pure instinct. The Great Ones like Montana had that last one- that is what separated them from the good ones. Carr probably does not have that instinct- but anyone claiming that he could never have been good are just plain dumb. He had all the tools; the work ethic; the toughness. he was just put in a terrible place for any QB to be in. Like Archie Manning all those years in NO. By the time he finally escaped to Minnesota, he was a shell of what he was- but he still made it to the Pro Bowl while he was there.

 

[jay cee]

Part of making reads is practice; part is learning; and part of that is pure instinct. The Great Ones like Montana had that last one- that is what separated them from the good ones. Carr probably does not have that instinct- but anyone claiming that he could never have been good are just plain dumb. He had all the tools; the work ethic; the toughness. he was just put in a terrible place for any QB to be in. Like Archie Manning all those years in NO. By the time he finally escaped to Minnesota, he was a shell of what he was- but he still made it to the Pro Bowl while he was there.

Actually the word here has been that he lacked work ethic. He was not one to spend a lot of time studying and preparing himself.

No one knows how he would have turned out, but IMO, he was as much of a problem as the Texans O-line.

And please, he has not exibited half the talent of Archie Manning.

 

[burmafrd]

You are totally wrong about his work ethic- this is revisionist BS. there were numerous stories about how hard he was working as a rookie and through his second year. The Texans are spreading this stuff now because they are desperately trying to shift blame.

 

[WoodysGirl]

You are totally wrong about his work ethic- this is revisionist BS. there were numerous stories about how hard he was working as a rookie and through his second year. The Texans are spreading this stuff now because they are desperately trying to shift blame.

He's not wrong. I've heard the same thing for years...and not just from media sources. FWIW.

 

[jay cee]

You are totally wrong about his work ethic- this is revisionist BS. there were numerous stories about how hard he was working as a rookie and through his second year. The Texans are spreading this stuff now because they are desperately trying to shift blame.

That could be the case. I have no proof that he was not a hard worker.

But, how do you know they they were telling the truth during his early years.

 

[jay cee]

He's not wrong. I've heard the same thing for years...and not just from media sources. FWIW.

I have heard that about him for the past 3 years at least WG, but only from sportsradio.

 

[WoodysGirl]

I have heard that about him for the past 3 years at least WG, but only from sportsradio.

You know how it is. You know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody. But if I'm hearing in one ear from one source...and then someone totally unrelated speaks on it, and it's consistent...like you said, for the past three years. Then there's gotta be something to it.

 

[burmafrd]

How do you know they are telling the truth NOW? If you think they lied back then, why would you think they are NOT lieing now?

 

[burmafrd]

What I pointed out was that during his first 2 years, there were stories complementing him for working hard, etc. Now MAYBE he slipped as the hits piled up and the fact that the team was doing NOTHING to improve the O line got to him. BUT I do know that it was a different story back in 2002, 2003.

 

[jay cee]

How do you know they are telling the truth NOW? If you think they lied back then, why would you think they are NOT lieing now?

I don't KNOW one way or the other, anymore than you KNOW.

You stated the Texans were lying now to coverup for releasing him. I was trying to point out that they could have been lying about his great work ethic early in his career.

 

[InmanRoshi]

What I pointed out was that during his first 2 years, there were stories complementing him for working hard, etc. Now MAYBE he slipped as the hits piled up and the fact that the team was doing NOTHING to improve the O line got to him. BUT I do know that it was a different story back in 2002, 2003.

So you know definitively because you read a couple of offseason fluff pieces?

 

[burmafrd]

At that time I was a big fan of Carr and made it a point to find things about him.

 

[calico]

Houston blows anyway you cut it, as bad as we have been in places they're worse, anybody remember our nickel back for the last couple years, they said he was thru in Houston, another brainless decision..

exactly.

The Texans entire organization is a mess. They continue to make bad offseason decisions that hurt them. It has been 5 years and they are still no better than they were in their first year...they have holes everywhere.