Interesting radio point regarding Cowboys training and overall health

[JBond]

The cowboys roster is filled with pansies that have now idea what accountability and effort mean, because the jackass owner has created a culture of failure.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I think too often fans underestimate how often in football organizations concede games. Which is why you often hear players say...."if it were the Super Bowl, I would be playing". The Cowboys recognize how terrible this division is. The Cowboys know they are 3-0 against division opponents. I also think the Cowboys believe 8 games will win this division. So I believe they are taking the approach of "how do we get to 8 wins AND be as healthy as possible" So taking aggresive measures to rehab injuries is not in the cards for this season. As frustrated as I am with this season. I also believe 8 games will win this division. And if we make the playoffs....and Miles, Claiborne, Sean Lee, Durant, Ware, Hatcher are back and healthy....we have a good chance to win a playoff game since we will be playing at home. By no means do I think this is a good team...but a healthy team in December will be good enough in THIS division to win it.

 

[Jenky]

Well, explain why AP is undergoing the painful treatment and still playing while Austin is not and is sitting out week after week, year after year. Had he undergone the treatment the first time he suffered a major hamstring injury, his hamstring would have healed more properly and he may not have had the continuing problems. He chose not to and there is really only two reasons why he would do that. One, it's very painful or two, he would rather sit out and get paid than play. Take your pick. You may find it hard to believe that a professional athlete refused a treatment that would get him back to the field quicker but that's exactly what Austin has done.

I can't explain it, cause I don't know exactly what is being done in either situations. We can speculate with hearsay and choose to believe what we want to believe.

If Austin is pulling a Ratliff, then he should have been cut.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

The cowboys roster is filled with pansies that have now idea what accountability and effort mean, because the jackass owner has created a culture of failure.

this is true. But there is only one super bowl winner every year. And I believe Jerry feels that if he can't win on the field....he might as well win off the field. And he is winning off the field more than any other owner. And WE..the fans....are buying something OTHER than winning. So he has very little incentive to change...ie...fire himself.

 

[khiladi]

Dallas.. where player's come to ruin their hamstrings...

 

[CashMan]

I think too often fans underestimate how often in football organizations concede games. Which is why you often hear players say...."if it were the Super Bowl, I would be playing". The Cowboys recognize how terrible this division is. The Cowboys know they are 3-0 against division opponents. I also think the Cowboys believe 8 games will win this division. So I believe they are taking the approach of "how do we get to 8 wins AND be as healthy as possible" So taking aggresive measures to rehab injuries is not in the cards for this season. As frustrated as I am with this season. I also believe 8 games will win this division. And if we make the playoffs....and Miles, Claiborne, Sean Lee, Durant, Ware, Hatcher are back and healthy....we have a good chance to win a playoff game since we will be playing at home. By no means do I think this is a good team...but a healthy team in December will be good enough in THIS division to win it.

You honestly believe that this is happening? The asylum is ran by the inmates in Dallas. This has turned into Oakland, when Al Davis was still alive. Jerry is Al Davis Jr.

 

[JBond]

this is true. But there is only one super bowl winner every year. And I believe Jerry feels that if he can't win on the field....he might as well win off the field. And he is winning off the field more than any other owner. And WE..the fans....are buying something OTHER than winning. So he has very little incentive to change...ie...fire himself.

I was in Dallas earlier this year and picked up a nice Cowboys hat for my son. He is also a die hard fan. I am regretting giving the Jones clan my $. The issues is, even when the stupid SOB is dead and gone his heir apparent appears to be an idiot that mimics his old man.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

I was in Dallas earlier this year and picked up a nice Cowboys hat for my son. He is also a die hard fan. I am regretting giving the Jones clan my $. The issues is, even when the stupid SOB is dead and gone his heir apparent appears to be an idiot that mimics his old man.

I live in DC and ALL my friends are constantly trying to get me to go to Dallas to a game in the new stadium. I REFUSE. And not because we are not winning Super Bowls. When we start operating like a REAL football operation...I will go. If that never happens...I will never go. Just watch and weep from my couch!

 

[Idgit]

This is a good topic, btw, OP.

I'm not sure what the issue with the injuries has been the last two seasons, but something's obviously going on. On the one hand, we obviously have accomplished trainers who know what they're doing. On the other, I find it hard to swallow that we'd spend all that money on trainers, and then just ignore their recommendations. It's fun to poke fun at Jerry and say it's his ego, but the guy didn't get where he is by hiring good people and then doing what he wants to do, anyway.

I suspect this is, at most, a case where one therapist's at-a-distance diagnosis differs from that of the staff, and it creates an opportunity for criticism. That doesn't explain why we've got so many people hurt all the time, though.

 

[JBond]

I live in DC and ALL my friends are constantly trying to get me to go to Dallas to a game in the new stadium. I REFUSE. And not because we are not winning Super Bowls. When we start operating like a REAL football operation...I will go. If that never happens...I will never go. Just watch and weep from my couch!

I hear you brother. Now if we could get everyone on board and hurt JJ in pocket book, then we might have something.

 

[links18]

I think too often fans underestimate how often in football organizations concede games. Which is why you often hear players say...."if it were the Super Bowl, I would be playing". The Cowboys recognize how terrible this division is. The Cowboys know they are 3-0 against division opponents. I also think the Cowboys believe 8 games will win this division. So I believe they are taking the approach of "how do we get to 8 wins AND be as healthy as possible" So taking aggresive measures to rehab injuries is not in the cards for this season. As frustrated as I am with this season. I also believe 8 games will win this division. And if we make the playoffs....and Miles, Claiborne, Sean Lee, Durant, Ware, Hatcher are back and healthy....we have a good chance to win a playoff game since we will be playing at home. By no means do I think this is a good team...but a healthy team in December will be good enough in THIS division to win it.

Jerry?

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

You honestly believe that this is happening? The asylum is ran by the inmates in Dallas. This has turned into Oakland, when Al Davis was still alive. Jerry is Al Davis Jr.

Of course! Havn't you heard guys say "if it was a playoff game I would play"? Again MANY factors go into whether guys desperatley take the field as opposed to not taking the field. Remember...Miles already KNOWS he will be cut this offseason. Some guys MUST play because they are trying to establish themselves. Some guys refuse to report concussions because their roster spot is tenuous. This stuff goes on all the time. Some guys...it is NOT in there DNA to sit. Witness Romo playing with cracked ribs. Witness Witten playing with a busted spleen.

 

[links18]

If therpaists are talking to one another about their patients and naming names; they are violating their oathes. Shame on them.

 

[CashMan]

Of course! Havn't you heard guys say "if it was a playoff game I would play"? Again MANY factors go into whether guys desperatley take the field as opposed to not taking the field. Remember...Miles already KNOWS he will be cut this offseason. Some guys MUST play because they are trying to establish themselves. Some guys refuse to report concussions because their roster spot is tenuous. This stuff goes on all the time. Some guys...it is NOT in there DNA to sit. Witness Romo playing with cracked ribs. Witness Witten playing with a busted spleen.

This stuff goes on all the time...Yea on non-playoff teams, and this is why Dallas will not be a playoff team, AGAIN.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

This is a good topic, btw, OP.

I'm not sure what the issue with the injuries has been the last two seasons, but something's obviously going on. On the one hand, we obviously have accomplished trainers who know what they're doing. On the other, I find it hard to swallow that we'd spend all that money on trainers, and then just ignore their recommendations. It's fun to poke fun at Jerry and say it's his ego, but the guy didn't get where he is by hiring good people and then doing what he wants to do, anyway.

I suspect this is, at most, a case where one therapist's at-a-distance diagnosis differs from that of the staff, and it creates an opportunity for criticism. That doesn't explain why we've got so many people hurt all the time, though.

There is something definitley going on. And when you are Adrian Peterson...and you declare before the season you are going to rush for 2500 yards...you are driven individual and you are going to do EVERYTHING to get back on the field. He also has his sights on Emmits all time record. Can't break records from the sidelines. Dez has not gotten paid yet. He also declared a 2000 yard season for himself. So he is going to take that epidural and get on the field. Hopefually the culture in Dallas will not change him once he gets paid....but this stuff is not rocket science. Jerry is still getting paid. More than other owner. So this is not hard for me to believe. You also must factor in how him questioning Ratliffs desire to get back on the field has impacted this ENTIRE locker room. So please believe....there is something going on.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

Perhaps Miles is self medicating.

He was afterall Hurds best friend.

 

[erod]

I think the new CBA, which dramatically limits the contact teams have with players now, it responsible for the outbreak of injuries.

Then Dallas' policies simply exacerbate that.

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

It all starts with Jerry!

...and ends with him.

 

[jnday]

I don't think anybody will disagree when I say that injuries has been a big problem in Dallas. This thread explains why. If Austin is refusing better methods of treatment and the FO is overruling the trainers, this constant injury situation will continue to be a problem. I would say Austin set a bad example and needs to go, but the FO must have agreed to his treatment. In any case, it is s mess, and it seems that the curse of injuries in Dallas is by their own doing. This organization is such a mess.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Perhaps Miles is self medicating.

He was afterall Hurds best friend.

I know this was meant as sarcasm. But think about it...what ties does Miles really have to this era of Cowboys football. The article talked about how he and Hurd were best friends on the team. Not hard to believe. They played the same position. A couple of long shots. Not hard at all to believe they formed a bond. Now I do NOT believe Miles was getting high every day. But I just don't think Miles wants it as bad as he used to. This is not a good team. He won't be here next year. He has already gotten paid. He needs to be healthy to attract a future employer. He was brought in by Parcells. The entire coaching staff and most of the roster has been turned over since he arrived. Look, I am not saying it is right. But there are a lot a factors for me to believe it is very possible guys are taking there time getting back