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You say ugly, I say prettystasheroo said:I think things have the potential to get really ugly in New York this year.
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You say ugly, I say prettystasheroo said:I think things have the potential to get really ugly in New York this year.
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Vintage;1569342 said:You say ugly, I say pretty
stasheroo;1569339 said:Not a Giants hater, but that's how it looks to me too. More than any other team in the NFL I can think of, I think the Giants' 'inmates run the asylum'.
They did last year and now with Coughlin as a lame duck, things will be even worse.
Guys in that locker room have their own agendas and I don't see much in the leadership department.
I think things have the potential to get really ugly in New York this year.
YoMick;1569346 said:Yeah... not really a giants hater either... I think Manning is better than he has shown. I blame Coughlin and the quitters like Plax and even Shockey.
The coach has to have organization within the team which then lends itself to structure for the QB to be successful. That aint happening anytime soon.
The Giants have about 4 or 5 T.O.'s "distracting" the lockerroom(team) and it is hardly reported.. Tiki is going to be put on a pedestal for his comments and insight... unbelievable.
Doomsday101;1569350 said:I'll say this about Manning he does not appear to have much in the leadership department. The guy throws a poor pass or Int and just shrugs his shoulders with a dumb look on his face.
YoMick;1569354 said:I am by no means a Manning supporter... but when the other pieces on offense are working(trying, making an effort) he does pretty good. He had some real impressive drives.
As far as "leadership"... I think he just has an unorthodox way of leading.... BUT... if too many of the playing pieces arent playing... who is he expected to lead?