Twitter: Interesting tidbit about Cowboys players

dagreat1_87

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To me this just means we are skilled at finding good but not great players. Always competitive but not enough to take you over the top
 

lkelly

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I'm confused. Is this some sort of tally of the unacknowleged children that Jerry has fathered?
 

Cowboys22

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I think this is absolutely true, but just playing devil's advocate, I can imagine one way in which it could be a bad thing.
I can imagine a team that makes "safer" picks in the later rounds, guys with high floors but low ceilings, who are more likely to stick in the NFL as backups but less likely to become stars. I don't have any reason to believe the Cowboys tend that way, just noodling.

I do think the Cowboys are an appealing destination for undrafted free agents (a la Romo taking less money to come here over Denver), which is a built-in advantage unrelated to personnel evaluation. But it still means the team is doing something right.
I don't think Dallas makes safer picks in later rounds more than any other team. Just this year alone, I wouldn't call Scott or Brooks safe picks. Those were picks no one had on their radar but the team identified as high upside with traits that were developable. The safe picks in later rounds are the guys still left over from all the internet rankings. No one would blame you for taking those guys and you'd likely get a high draft grade if you did.
 

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I think more evidence is needed to understand what this really means. For instance, my theory for Dallas having a higher draft success rate (as measured by roster retention) than other teams is that it is tied to the Cowboys limited or ineffective use of free agency. If you are bringing in cheap players who fail more often than succeed, then you are more likely to keep a mediocre draft pick over that cheap FA. Instead of cutting a mediocre draft pick, we keep him because we have nothing better.

Of course, to prove that theory, I'd have to do a roster comparison that I'm too busy and too lazy to perform.
This stat is league wide. It is not referring to players still on the Cowboys' roster. There are dozens of players around the league brought in by Dallas.
 

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This is why I'm OK with the Trey Lance trade. If McClay had a hand in it, I trust him and that it was a good move for the team.
But then there’s taco Charlton and Kelvin Joseph as counterpoints so I feel empowered to criticize when I see fit..
 

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I think more evidence is needed to understand what this really means. For instance, my theory for Dallas having a higher draft success rate (as measured by roster retention) than other teams is that it is tied to the Cowboys limited or ineffective use of free agency. If you are bringing in cheap players who fail more often than succeed, then you are more likely to keep a mediocre draft pick over that cheap FA. Instead of cutting a mediocre draft pick, we keep him because we have nothing better.

Of course, to prove that theory, I'd have to do a roster comparison that I'm too busy and too lazy to perform.
Its hard to say; but I agree our dumpster diving tendency in FA might be a contributing factor in keeping more of our own.
 

TNCowboy

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I'd like to see what McClay could do unhampered by the Jones family.
 

Momanpr100

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Both McClay and McCarthy had huge roles in the trade for Trey Lance, even though Jerry didn't consult with either one of them when San Francisco called. It was the past recommendations of McClay an McCarthy that convince Jerry it was a good trade. He didn't need to ask them at the moment the 49ers called, because they had already expressed their opinions about Lance in the 2021 NFL draft. Jerry came right out and said that it was the 2021 draft evaluation of Lance that he relied upon to inform the trade. His only other concern was the health of Lance.

Go back and listen to what Jerry said after the trade. He explicitly states is was Lance's draft grades that caused him to pull the trigger. Who did the draft grading? McClay and McCarthy.
I don't understand why this is so hard for people to grasp. They did the evaluation, and Jerry and Stephen pulled the trigger. Great post
 

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Having the most drafted players and/or undrafted rookies signed by you still in the league means someone, or lots of someones, are doing something right. They deserve the benefit of the doubt on draft day as opposed to meaningless rankings put out by whoever.

Yeah this is an awesome stat to point to on draft day.
 

McKDaddy

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This stat is league wide. It is not referring to players still on the Cowboys' roster. There are dozens of players around the league brought in by Dallas.
exactly. if we acquired them and then let them go & they have been successful elsewhere, it's not really a glowing endorsement. of course some could still be in the league but never done anything and we were right to let them go.

would need to see an actual list to determine how good you believe the team has been with acquisition & retention.
 

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This is great but what has it netted the Cowboys in the 21st century?

Only proof that the talent evaluation has been well above average but the ability to procure pieces to complete the puzzle have been missing.

Sort of a bitter-sweet tidbit.
 

Knotamus

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This is not too surprising.. for a team known for Drafting well, I suppose this stat shouldn’t be a surprise. Interesting nonetheless
 

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This is great but what has it netted the Cowboys in the 21st century?

Only proof that the talent evaluation has been well above average but the ability to procure pieces to complete the puzzle have been missing.

Sort of a bitter-sweet tidbit.
Agreed. What does it matter if we don't win anything? You could even say it makes the playoffs failures worse
 
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