Inventory and audit reveals reality

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ROFL.

Not even an Eagles fan could paint as bleak a picture about the Cowboys as is.

Dallas had one of the youngest teams in the league and won 13 games. They lost 4. Four all year including the playoff game.
The playoff game they won across the bulk of the game but lost with a slow start and Aaron Rodgers insane finish. --eerily similar to how NE got hot late against ATL.

Dallas is a play-action based offense so it doesn't exactly require a genius or adjustment to realize if you can shut down the run it will limit the offense and Dak.
Against 70m DLs Dallas may well have some issues. That's what 2-3 teams?

What Dallas shouldn't do is act stupidly pretending the world is burning around them and panic.
They need to continue to draft well, add young free agents with upside and follow the process that got them to 13 wins.
Whether they win 6 games or 13 next year the process in place is the proper one and over the course of a decade it will bear fruit.
This is no longer about Tony Romo or a short window.
Dallas is here to stay as a playoff team for a long time.
Seriously, erod has become a bore since his hero got hurt. He wrote similarly repugnant diatribes from the other side and would surely be explaining how easy an undefeated season was upcoming if Romo was still the starter. He's about as mysterious as a pane of glass.
 

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I have absolutely no clue what to expect next year. History says a down year.


I hate to see Leary go. I personally would cut Witten before I would let Leary walk. Leary likely has several good years left and Witten's are all in the rear view mirror. No telling what Cowboys team we see in September.
 

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I agree that you build the team for the long haul. I really don't think there are going to be many free agents worth picking up this year other than our own. I see us building through the draft. I would not let Leary walk mainly because he is a very good young player with trade value. It preserves the strength of this team, the OL.

Witten isn't the future. Dez' window might start closing pretty quickly. Everyone is kicking dirt on Romo, but doesn't apply the same rationale to Dez and Witten which I think is pretty absurd.

If you want to go young and save cap space to spend on a DL when the opportunity arises, then that's a viable option, but don't be afraid to look for replacements for Witten, Dez and Crawford while you are at it and save the cap room where it will actually do the most good.
 

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Seriously, erod has become a bore since his hero got hurt. He wrote similarly repugnant diatribes from the other side and would surely be explaining how easy an undefeated season was upcoming if Romo was still the starter. He's about as mysterious as a pane of glass.

Quite the opposite. Dak was as much a miracle as Romo was.

But this is an 8-8 league for most teams. A couple bounces make the difference.

A tougher schedule and the same holes, along with some new ones, make this potentially a year similar to 2008 after the last 13-3 season.
 

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A 13-3 splash can play crazy tricks on the mind, especially around these parts. It turns the offseason into a trippy fear and loathing adventure, wrought with alternating bouts of self-aggrandizating and self doubt.

What just happened? Was that real? Way down deep, we all know last year came with some smoke and mirrors. Last year's purpose didn't happen with a bit of happenstance.

We know that because the team Dallas beat in October went up and down the field against Dallas in the playoffs, then got pig-slaughtered in Atlanta. Pittsburgh got equally torched by New England. The Packers and Steelers really weren't that good this year.

We also know because Dallas came dangerously close to being 0-6 in the division. The Giants beat the Cowboys twice, the Commanders semi-gifted Dallas twice, and the Eagles strangely collapsed with a dominant 4th-quarter lead in Dallas.

Injuries were few here compared to most teams. The timing proved perfect against the better opposing quarterbacks. Roethlisberger was coming off of an ankle injury. Rodgers was struggling mightily early on. Dalton and Flacco had terrible years by their standards. In fact, the whole league was down in 2016. Injuries were rampant, and offensive line play was putrid overall.

Make no mistake, hope rightly abounds with such a young cast of talent in key positions, but there's still a laundry list of questions to address.

Still no pass rush, and those don't get built over a single offseason. Lawrence may be done for good with a bad back. Jaylon Smith offers hope, but can Lee stay healthy again? Scandrick looks old, Claiborne is likely gone, and Carr will cost a pretty penny. That leaves one corner, a 6th round pick that came out of nowhere to play surprisingly well. It's either Church or Wilcox, but not both.

The whole defense remains a lump of yuck and what-if. The free agent pool is drying up in pass rush threats, not that the Joneses dabble in high-priced free agents anymore anyway. Draft picks typically take a few years to become effective pass rushers.

This defense is more than 2-3 guys away from being great. Average will likely be the best possible scenario again in 2017.

Offensively, all seems well, perhaps, we hope.

I'm still haunted by those terrible performances from Dak against New York, Minnesota, and Philly. Physical defenses that stopped Zeke really gave Dak fits. He was a rookie, I know, and an offseason is very much in his favor. But defensive coordinators are scouring those tapes, and they always find you. This will be an adjustment season for him for sure.

The offensive line is superb, but if Leary walks, and another gets hurt for an extended period, things could get very average in a hurry. The cocoon of perfection Zeke and Dak have enjoyed could turn ugly, and those big holes and eons of pass protection could evaporate instantly. Offensive lines rarely stay as healthy as Dallas' did, even with Tyron playing through neck issues.

So when, if, suddenly, the team plods to 4-4 by midseason, the environment will be very different for these young'uns. (Especially if Romo is still upright elsewhere, and doing what he does.) The scrutiny around here will divorce this team from last year's honeymoon lickety split.

Atlanta, Kansas City, Green Bay, Seattle, Denver (Romo?), Oakland, and six more games against a division that the Cowboys played ugly football against....this is going to be a more difficult gamut to circumnavigate.

In deference to Saint Parcells, sometimes your record can indeed be misleading. The Cowboys were good last year, but they weren't great. Significant pieces and improvement are sorely needed. There's a razor-thin difference between Tennessee and Dallas in talent. Things can change in a whisper.

I suspect everybody but Jerry knows this in Frisco. While he's celebrating his gold jacket, let's hope a more focused team arrives in Canton in five months with some ultra critical additions.

This franchise and fan base has been known to rest on its laurels for some time now. This ain't the time for that.
A pretty fair analysis .

I'd still place our over/ under going into the season at 10 wins and make us favorites to win the division.

A solid defensive draft and no key injuries on offense could bolster our expectations but I do agree we probably won some games which could have gone the other way easily and agree with your assessment in our divisional games. But some credit must be given for pulling those out.

I agree we weren't a 13-3 team but I also agree the NFC was down so we were a failed 3rd and 20 from OT and a potential Championship appearance . Not bad for a team with their QB going down again. Much to build on going forward unless you believe Dak was a fluke and will be exposed this year?
 

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A 13-3 splash can play crazy tricks on the mind, especially around these parts. It turns the offseason into a trippy fear and loathing adventure, wrought with alternating bouts of self-aggrandizating and self doubt.

What just happened? Was that real? Way down deep, we all know last year came with some smoke and mirrors. Last year's purpose didn't happen with a bit of happenstance.

We know that because the team Dallas beat in October went up and down the field against Dallas in the playoffs, then got pig-slaughtered in Atlanta. Pittsburgh got equally torched by New England. The Packers and Steelers really weren't that good this year.

We also know because Dallas came dangerously close to being 0-6 in the division. The Giants beat the Cowboys twice, the Commanders semi-gifted Dallas twice, and the Eagles strangely collapsed with a dominant 4th-quarter lead in Dallas.

Injuries were few here compared to most teams. The timing proved perfect against the better opposing quarterbacks. Roethlisberger was coming off of an ankle injury. Rodgers was struggling mightily early on. Dalton and Flacco had terrible years by their standards. In fact, the whole league was down in 2016. Injuries were rampant, and offensive line play was putrid overall.

Make no mistake, hope rightly abounds with such a young cast of talent in key positions, but there's still a laundry list of questions to address.

Still no pass rush, and those don't get built over a single offseason. Lawrence may be done for good with a bad back. Jaylon Smith offers hope, but can Lee stay healthy again? Scandrick looks old, Claiborne is likely gone, and Carr will cost a pretty penny. That leaves one corner, a 6th round pick that came out of nowhere to play surprisingly well. It's either Church or Wilcox, but not both.

The whole defense remains a lump of yuck and what-if. The free agent pool is drying up in pass rush threats, not that the Joneses dabble in high-priced free agents anymore anyway. Draft picks typically take a few years to become effective pass rushers.

This defense is more than 2-3 guys away from being great. Average will likely be the best possible scenario again in 2017.

Offensively, all seems well, perhaps, we hope.

I'm still haunted by those terrible performances from Dak against New York, Minnesota, and Philly. Physical defenses that stopped Zeke really gave Dak fits. He was a rookie, I know, and an offseason is very much in his favor. But defensive coordinators are scouring those tapes, and they always find you. This will be an adjustment season for him for sure.

The offensive line is superb, but if Leary walks, and another gets hurt for an extended period, things could get very average in a hurry. The cocoon of perfection Zeke and Dak have enjoyed could turn ugly, and those big holes and eons of pass protection could evaporate instantly. Offensive lines rarely stay as healthy as Dallas' did, even with Tyron playing through neck issues.

So when, if, suddenly, the team plods to 4-4 by midseason, the environment will be very different for these young'uns. (Especially if Romo is still upright elsewhere, and doing what he does.) The scrutiny around here will divorce this team from last year's honeymoon lickety split.

Atlanta, Kansas City, Green Bay, Seattle, Denver (Romo?), Oakland, and six more games against a division that the Cowboys played ugly football against....this is going to be a more difficult gamut to circumnavigate.

In deference to Saint Parcells, sometimes your record can indeed be misleading. The Cowboys were good last year, but they weren't great. Significant pieces and improvement are sorely needed. There's a razor-thin difference between Tennessee and Dallas in talent. Things can change in a whisper.

I suspect everybody but Jerry knows this in Frisco. While he's celebrating his gold jacket, let's hope a more focused team arrives in Canton in five months with some ultra critical additions.

This franchise and fan base has been known to rest on its laurels for some time now. This ain't the time for that.

Audits and inventories are supposed to be comprehensive and not just every negative angle that you can come up with.

The Steelers got beat by the eventual world champions and you conclude from that they were not very good? That is nonsense. The argument is supposed to go they got beat by <bad team X> therefor they are not good. Getting beat by the two SB representatives indicates nothing. L2Logic.

As far as our NFCE games a few things.

1) If you are going to play the game where you count close wins as losses then it should work both ways. We won both Giants games and made the NFCCG! WOOHOO!
2) When teams are consistently winning seeing the opponent melt down at the end then that is by design. It's why we run the ball, it's why we rotate on defense, it's why we are a physical football team. Garrett only preaches FINISH ad nauseum but you act like it's luck when we do.
3) The Giants had our number. Specifically they were able to rattle and confuse Dak. Thing is he was a rookie and Eli looks like he is done. We are two franchises going in completely different directions.

Opponents were looking at Daks tape all last year too. Thing is that is something that works both ways too. Dak is going to be getting better.

We had injuries to starting QB, WR, OG, DE, 2 CB, and S throughout the year with several out the entire year. We did not get lucky. We built a team that had depth throughout the roster. Dak, Butler, Leary, Mayowa, Brown, Jones, and Heath/Wilcox all stepped up as the next man up.

We had all those issues on defense last year yet managed to be above average in terms of yards and points. Let's see what happens in FA and the draft before we give up eh? You have no idea how our FA will pan out but seem intent on predicting worst case scenario.

There is a difference between planning on the worst and only considering the worst.

Scandrick looked hurt. He was recovering from an ACL and had two bad hamstrings. He is 30 sure but he can lose a step with his uncanny athleticism and still contribute.

That good/great reasoning is evidence of someone trying to talk themselves into something. You would hope after everyone parroted that reasoning on Bosa last year and were so very wrong they would try a different tactic but alas.

We had a tough schedule last year by opponent record. Teams are so up and down from year to year that you cannot tell the year before what will be what. Carolina and Denver took a turn for the worst last season. Any of those teams you are fearmongering could easily as well.
 

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Thanks erod; It turns the offseason into a trippy fear and loathing adventure,

Your post helps me understand and be more compassionate toward you guys,
Your taking drugs; instead of reporting on Vegas politics your reporting on the Dallas Cowboys,
with some smoke and mirrors. dont look in the mirrors erod its too freaky

All the lizards and monsters on the field will disappear I swear erod if you just lay off that stuff
 

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I have no idea what next year will bring

Tougher schedule
Sophmore slump
Bad defense with only 2 (Lee and Collins) really good players

This team can go 13-3 or 9-7 and it would not shock me

Most of the happy fans in this thread will be ready to make excuses or vanish if that happens

This FO needs to seriously upgrade the defense (front 7 and safety), find a WR that can run consistent routes and catch the ball (as #2), a good back up QB vet, and a PR/KR who is s real threat
 

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You are what your record says you are.

We were already an up and coming young team in 2014. 15 was derailed by injuries we weren't yet equipped to overcome. Compounded with the loss of a key free agent.

There were many close games that year. We just couldn't get it done. We did get it done last year. Obviously, we came up short and I think our young players and our coaches learned something about the playoffs and about themselves. No question we will be one of the favorites to win the NFC and the Super Bowl.

Of course you're free to believe we aren't that good then be pleasantly surprised when we are if that makes you feel better.
 

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I have no idea what next year will bring

Tougher schedule
Sophmore slump
Bad defense with only 2 (Lee and Collins) really good players

This team can go 13-3 or 9-7 and it would not shock me

Most of the happy fans in this thread will be ready to make excuses or vanish if that happens

This FO needs to seriously upgrade the defense (front 7 and safety), find a WR that can run consistent routes and catch the ball (as #2), a good back up QB vet, and a PR/KR who is s real threat
Excuses, in some cases, are just that. Excuses. In this case the excuses somewhat excuse the poor record. Losing your starting qb,top wide receiver, best db, and I'm sure others I've forgotten is a legitimate excuse to not playing as well and winning as much. The preceding and following year offers evidence that the excuses could be legitimate.

I think most of us FANS or whatever clever term the other side comes up with for us are still on here win or lose.

What's more interesting is to see the negative fans reactions and to see their post counts go way down when we win. Which is odd for fans of a team to do imo.
 

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What's more interesting is to see the negative fans reactions and to see their post counts go way down when we win. Which is odd for fans of a team to do imo.

This is just a crock and you know it
All cowboy fans want the team to win
Some fans wave Pom poms and blindly support every decision by the FO while others actually critique it based on its merits, objectively. When the team has consistently made poor decisions and been mediocre for 20 years......... 20 years, that "negativity" is perfectly legitimate. When the team wins the outlook is completely different. Post counts don't go down. That is just s figment of your imagination. Just compare CZ in 2016 and 2015. Ask the mods if you don't believe me. How many people did they bench in 2015 vs 2016.
 

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My fear is still the defense. If our D isn't markedly better, then I wouldn't be shocked at all if we miss the playoffs. I don't think we can go another season with our offense being our defense. Combine that with a brutal (on paper) schedule, and this could easily be along season.
 

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Jeez, even i was down on last year, but lets not gloss the positives. Who was wrong about the EE pick, raises my hand THIS GUY RIGHT HERE. Was he good? No, was he the pick i wanted, no, what happened. best RB in the league. and that is not easy to come by. PS a lot of posters can hoot and holler over that one. Take a bow.

The offense. does it have the tools? Yea, who was the main problem, Linehan, will it change? Who knows but lets give the guy some credit. Was the Oline perfect? Eh, had its moments, shined real well , and had its games. No biggie. Do we miss Callahan? Yea, is Frank P horrible? No.

a few players need to be scrapped off the roster. but if they are replaced well , that will end well. There is only so much we can do. Coaching will be needed more next year. Even with a limited D and thats what it was "limited" Lets give Rod credit for what he did. Yes he needs to get after the QB and keep getting after the QB. Ok, fine.

There is not 1 team in the league that scares me. And for all you were scared by Atlanta, again, never trust Atlanta. Atlanta has been spewing that message for years. Come on, get a clue.

Packers impressive? No, just goes to show how average the league is, their QB rests half the year, turns it on and still makes the playoffs.

Lets all take a deep breath, ignore the media, and wait to see what happens. As a few smart posters mentioned, lets just wait and see.

We all know what we are waiting for. Last year is over and Dallas did the right thing. Play Dak, whatever happened was icing on the cake. If you got worked up for a SB run, you were fooling yourself. Frankily, football has become more of a science (has have all sports by now) than entertainment.

Overall we had a good draft, so lets see how it progresses and what we bring in this year. If Dallas does anything but a DE or a qb rusher, sorry dont expect much next year. Than we ll see who survives the cuts.

No preaching, yelling, betting, or crying is bringing back next year. If you got wound up for something, its on you. 20 plus years Jerry Jones has told you, "im striving for mediocrity" you can either accept it or ignore it, but it will be on you, not the board.

I dont want to blow your minds people, but a lot of fans have got to get it through their minds, to some teams the SB is not a goal, its just a land mark. A few teams wil be striving for it, and some will be making their wallets fat. When the people bought the teams it wasnt to make teh cities happy. I never heard one owner say "I bought this team and ill go broke making the fans happy"

Im also still wainting for a SB team to lift that lombardi and say "This stat made this happen!!!!"
 

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"Lump of yuck" to describe the defense got a chuckle out of me, but it's true. The FO has been trying to fix it for many years but it's just not worked out for whatever reason. Hardy, Gregory, Tapper and a few others have all been disappointments. The FO just needs to keep plugging away at getting the D right. My faith in the FO remains resolute... striving to get a SB victory. We'll get there.
 

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My fear is still the defense. If our D isn't markedly better, then I wouldn't be shocked at all if we miss the playoffs. I don't think we can go another season with our offense being our defense. Combine that with a brutal (on paper) schedule, and this could easily be along season.
I agree, except that I think the defense last year--though still bad--was better than it's been since 2009.
Not sure what that really means though...as it's still not a defense that you win a SB with, even if the offense is lights out.
Hoping for more improvement.
 
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