Ir's sickening to see the fanbase tonight

[CowboyStar88]

: Hahahhaa...you must be happy with our play tonight. Spare me the old man river adages.

Oh yeah I am soo happy. Spare me the the fan base is a bunch of cowards crap.

 

[tupperware]

Garrett deserves blame. He's the head coach of the team.

Rob's defense sucked in the 4th today but I think it's becoming more apparent week-in and week-out that he has a whole bunch of sub-JAG players to work with.

Parcells wanted to shop for the groceries.

Rob walked into a kitchen with Top Ramen and Spam and was asked to create a meal worthy of fine dining. It's tasted pretty good at times but at this point, I'm getting real sick of Top Ramen and no amount of garnish is going change the fact that it's Top Ramen.

Dallas has 1 pass rusher, Ware.

They have 1 other really good player on defense, Lee.

They have 1 pretty good, but not great, CB in Jenkins but him being in and out all the time really hurts his ability to help.

Other than that, there isn't much. A few guys who "can" make plays but who also fail to do anything just as often.

Newman's play on the ball was great in the 1st quarter but he didn't finish the play. You won't find an easier INT anywhere. Then he comes back a bit later and gets absolutely obliterated by Manningham who fortunately dropped the ball. It's one thing to get outmuscled and outsized by Calvin Johnson, it's another to get beaten by other teams' 3rd WRs.

On one of the TDs, Collinsworth called Church (I think) for blitzing when he likely had responsibility in coverage.

I honestly think we were all pretty teased earlier in the season when the defense was sacking people, generating turnovers and playing pretty well. We should have known the honeymoon would end at some point.

The talent on defense just isn't good. Sucks because that side of the ball has gotten a ton of money invested but it is what it is.

Time to just admit that the players on that side suck, get rid of them and find players who are capable.

You said it, Ware and Lee and when Mike Dumplins isn't hurt he'll make a play from time to time. Everyone else? I couldn't care less about their spots on this team.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Garrett deserves blame. He's the head coach of the team.

Rob's defense sucked in the 4th today but I think it's becoming more apparent week-in and week-out that he has a whole bunch of sub-JAG players to work with.

Parcells wanted to shop for the groceries.

Rob walked into a kitchen with Top Ramen and Spam and was asked to create a meal worthy of fine dining. It's tasted pretty good at times but at this point, I'm getting real sick of Top Ramen and no amount of garnish is going change the fact that it's Top Ramen.

Dallas has 1 pass rusher, Ware.

They have 1 other really good player on defense, Lee.

They have 1 pretty good, but not great, CB in Jenkins but him being in and out all the time really hurts his ability to help.

Other than that, there isn't much. A few guys who "can" make plays but who also fail to do anything just as often.

Newman's play on the ball was great in the 1st quarter but he didn't finish the play. You won't find an easier INT anywhere. Then he comes back a bit later and gets absolutely obliterated by Manningham who fortunately dropped the ball. It's one thing to get outmuscled and outsized by Calvin Johnson, it's another to get beaten by other teams' 3rd WRs.

On one of the TDs, Collinsworth called Church (I think) for blitzing when he likely had responsibility in coverage.

I honestly think we were all pretty teased earlier in the season when the defense was sacking people, generating turnovers and playing pretty well. We should have known the honeymoon would end at some point.

The talent on defense just isn't good. Sucks because that side of the ball has gotten a ton of money invested but it is what it is.

Time to just admit that the players on that side suck, get rid of them and find players who are capable.

Our defense is not the most talented, but with a 12 pioint lead and five minutes left ANY NFL defense should be able to slow the opposing offense enough to win.

 

[tupperware]

Can we, once and for all, put this myth to rest?

Marcus Spears is the king of all JAGs on the DL.

Oh, I know all about the "dirty work" that 3-4 DEs do thereby allowing LBs to make tackles, blah, blah, blah...He's barely a blip on the radar, and he was manhandled tonight.

How does anyone explain that he has the least amount of tackles among the rotation guys at DE? In fact, the other DEs (again, those in the rotation) all have nearly twice the amount of tackles that Spears does.

For a supposed "run stopper" he has 11 tackles all season, or just barely over a half tackle a game.

The Cowboys thought so much of him that they offered Bowen and Hatcher higher qualifying offers.

The rest of the NFL thought so much of him that he didn't receive an offer in FA.

He is a bust for a first round pick and is a spare part, and IMO, he, just like Newman, Spencer, James exemplify what is wrong with this team.

But he brings his lunch pail every day!

 

[Picksix]

I told my wife at some point we will go for two to make up that stupid safety, we just had too. Time kept passing and I stuck to it, this is the TD they go for two. Wow, she looked at me like I had no clue what I was talking about.

You don't chase points. You go for two when you have to, not when you're trying to make up something. Too often, you miss, and then you're just chasing more points.

 

[dboy214]

Believe me, I'm no fan of Jerry. But Jerry didnt play defense tonight.

no, but...

he built this defense with so many holes.

he built this defense with no depth.

he built this defense which relies on overhill the players like newman, james, brooking.

he built this defense that still has a 300lb nosetackle that wears out at the end of games.

he built this defense that has players that admit they quit last year (spencer, jenkins)

he built this defense that just inexplicably extended scandrick and sensy to new contracts.

he is the GM, he is responsible for the personnel on this team.

wade couldn't do **** with these losers on defense, he leaves and has the #1 rated defense in the league in his first season with the Texans....with his best player mario williams out for the year.

jerry jones has destroyed this franchise by putting together a flawed team.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Drunk or not, this is a damned good post.

Somehow I've missed it for a while apparently, but you have a really cute kid. Looks JUST like my nephew :laugh2:

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

How can you blame a guy who throws 4 touchdowns and no picks? Yes I know he overthrew Austin, but Austin could've and should've reached out for it and he would've made the catch. Bottomline without Romo we get dismantled. With him we had a chance to win, but because of an atrocious defense we were unable to do so.

 

[Arch Stanton]

More stats but not the most important stat at the end of the day - a WIN as in 8 victories instead of 7.

I think Ware and Romo are great players. But what you fail to understand is the reason we consider them great. We expect them to do something that delivers the win. So if they're great in giving us six QB pressures or throwing for four touchdowns, we expect them to do even more to deliver a victory.

We don't expect them to jump offsides giving the Giants a 1st and 5 instead of a 2nd and 20. We expect them to complete a pass to an open receiver on a blitz.

To whom much is given, much is required.

So I can't sweat those critical of Romo or Ware.

Honestly, I'm kind of neutral. I didn't think this team was ready for the playoffs this year so I'm not totally disappointed in the bigger scheme of things.

But I think those with your perspective need to understand that there are fans here who want our playmakers to do something to deliver the victory.

What's wrong with that?

When an offense scores 34 points it really should be enough to win a game.

 

[el_chevo]

Oh yeah I am soo happy. Spare me the the fan base is a bunch of cowards crap.

You are correct, sir. My post, written in haste, should have been more succinct. I should have written, in a timely manner, that people who remain adamant about defending our team in the face of reality should be brought to task. We have people who have become complacent. They are everywhere, in my opinion, including our fan base. They are cowards who hide behind complacency, in my opinion.

 

[CowboyStar88]

You don't chase points. You go for two when you have to, not when you're trying to make up something. Too often, you miss, and then you're just chasing more points.

If I am not mistaken there is a chart that coaches follow. It's not about chasing points it's about staying ahead of your opponent. I remember commentators talking about this chart how hours were spent coming up with different scenarios for each situation, calculated risks on when to go for 2.

 

[Dodger]

Somehow I've missed it for a while apparently, but you have a really cute kid. Looks JUST like my nephew :laugh2:

Thanks! I'm very proud of him...as you can probably tell.

How can you blame a guy who throws 4 touchdowns and no picks? Yes I know he overthrew Austin, but Austin could've and should've reached out for it and he would've made the catch. Bottomline without Romo we get dismantled. With him we had a chance to win, but because of an atrocious defense we were unable to do so.

And especially when he has a 148 QB rating in the 4th quarter. Yeah, he may have thrown that ball just a tad too far for Austin, but as 30YardSlant posted, that throw shouldn't have HAD to matter.

Romo did his part. The defense did almost nothing....

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Garrett deserves blame. He's the head coach of the team.

I agree.

When a team habitually squanders double digit fourth quarter leads in historic fashion, blame must fall on the head coach.

We employ the "just unlucky" excuse far too many times on this board. As a great coach once opined, luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity, and the Cowboys aren't seizing their opportunities.

 

[Tabascocat]

You don't chase points. You go for two when you have to, not when you're trying to make up something. Too often, you miss, and then you're just chasing more points.

I did not say that is the rule,I was guessing on my part because I saw the direction this game was heading. Just had that feeling we were gonna need a conversion at some point. But I agree, normally you dont chase points.

 

[Tusan_Homichi]

To start, the only guys we have on defense that are anything more than average are Ware, Lee, and Jenkins. Everyone else? Meh at best.

Having said that, I just don't think we could afford to keep blitzing on those last two drives. We don't have the personnel in the secondary to cover long enough for the blitz to even get there. That goes on Rob Ryan. I'm not asking for prevent, but is not sending the house so often too much to ask?

And blaming this one on Romo? Really? REALLY? He played a flawless game and that missed pass to Austin? That was perfectly thrown. I'm sorry, but it was. If Austin is full speed on that route, which he was not, that's a perfect strike for a TD. Whether he lost it in the lights, he's gimpy and a step slow, or whatever, that's a TD if Laurent or Dez is over there.

 

[Eskimo]

I don't think Ryan called a good game. In fact, I think he was really bad in the 4th quarter.

At the end of the day the guy most responsible is Jerry Jones. The players on defense are not good enough for us to win games. We are pathetically bad at CB right now at #2, #4 and #5. You cannot go up against good QBs and expect to hold them down at the end of the game.

I also think it is time to end the Rat experiment in NT. He just gets too worn down and the middle was open the whole game for the Giants to run against us. We need a proper 330 pound space eater in that spot for Lee to do his job properly. Unfortunately, we just extended him again for no good reason (he had 2 years left on his deal, I believe).

It is hard to say where to go from here. However, I think Ryan is not the answer at DC, Joe D is not the answer at ST and Jerry Jones is not the answer at GM. I don't know if Garrett is the answer at HC but I like his approach and I like his offense. I feel once he corrects the interior of his OL we'll regularly score about 30 ppg. I like his demeanor and attitude but I don't think he has enough players on his roster to go up against the best in the league. There are just too many gaping holes on this roster for us to compete against good DLs or good QBs. Sadly the Giants have both so they beat us. Sadly the Eagles have both (Vick plays well against us) so they'll probably beat us again, too.

I don't think all is lost but we're not going anywhere this year with this defense and this OL. Hopefully we can patch things up a bit more next year and try again.

 

[dboy214]

You are correct, sir. My post, written in haste, should have been more succinct. I should have written, in a timely manner, that people who remain adamant about defending our team in the face of reality should be brought to task. We have people who have become complacent. They are everywhere, in my opinion, including our fan base. They are cowards who hide behind complacency, in my opinion.

it really is sickening how complacent some of our fans have become.

it's like the losing has made them forget the standard, the tradition this franchise was built on.

 

[DOUBLE WING]

To start, the only guys we have on defense that are anything more than average are Ware, Lee, and Jenkins. Everyone else? Meh at best.

Having said that, I just don't think we could afford to keep blitzing on those last two drives. We don't have the personnel in the secondary to cover long enough for the blitz to even get there. That goes on Rob Ryan. I'm not asking for prevent, but is not sending the house so often too much to ask?

And blaming this one on Romo? Really? REALLY? He played a flawless game and that missed pass to Austin? That was perfectly thrown. I'm sorry, but it was. If Austin is full speed on that route, which he was not, that's a perfect strike for a TD. Whether he lost it in the lights, he's gimpy and a step slow, or whatever, that's a TD if Laurent or Dez is over there.

These goofs cant get any kind of pressure on the QB unless Rob sends the house. It's either do that, or let Eli sit back and pick you apart.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

it really is sickening how complacent some of our fans have become.

it's like the losing has made them forget the standard, the tradition this franchise was built on.

Well the last time we won anything significant was over 15 years ago. It's hard to realistically expect to contend for a super bowl with the current roster.*

 

[el_chevo]

it really is sickening how complacent some of our fans have become.

it's like the losing has made them forget the standard, the tradition this franchise was built on.

You are correct, sir!