Irvin: Cowboys RB could 'end world hunger' with meat he's left on the bone

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Let's clear the air. Murray wanted to stay. He thought a record setting season was worth more than the Cowboys offered. Yet he didn't clean out his locker until after sitting around here for several months, going to sporting events with the QB and Head Coach.

This was a team that did not respect the running game. Or more specifically this running back. The same mindset - by Stephen Jones this time - that brought you "any one of 500 coaches can coach this team."

Murray wanted to stay, but it was evident there were those that preferred he did not because they knew better. Just like some posters on this board.

As much as the line made Murray successful, his contribution made the line successful.

There are contributing factors. And the group advocating "Get out of Town Murray" point to his success in Philly and feel justified for running off a playmaker. However, the truth is, these are the same people who think Chip Kelly is a moron. And they would be half right since Kelly hasn't the first clue how to use Murray.

I had been very adamant all off season that Murray will be missed. I also said Randall is a spare that can get a couple of runs in and then disappear. The mindset is that Randall is a home run hitter and Murray doesn't have the speed to do that.

Yet there are still 60 minutes in the game. And this game, more than anything else, is about winning on third down. Not long touchdown runs that are seldom, even with the best runners ever.

The very same type of thinking that makes a batter who hits at a high average better than a guy who does not but cranks out 40 home runs a year. There is more to winning than the occasional long TD run.

It falls under the category of clock management. That is what Murray brings with the five, six, and seven yarders that move the sticks.

This team misses Murray, and every week it becomes more evident. Surely Dez and Romo factor in, but when you see the dirty yards dry up - the ones where he pushed a pile of defenders an extra couple of yards to gain the first or leave third and short, it becomes crystal clear this team misses Murray.

The front office made a huge mistake, and no argument about cap space is valid since they seem to be able to add players and take on salary. This off season could have been exactly the same and still retained Murray if these guys had gotten off their collective arses and made this work.

They did not. And the results detract from the great off season this team enjoyed because they allowed the running game to walk away.

This is not about Murray leaving, because he wanted to stay.

This is about a front office that outsmarted themselves in believing this team could plug in a low character guy, or a guy too small, or a guy that hasn't done crap in this league and supplant 1800 yards from scrimmage. Because just any old spare can run behind this line.

This is about hubris. In the management of this team and among the fans who were ungrateful for the talent of a guy that loved being the featured back in Dallas and delivered game in and game out. A leader who was reaching his potential and delivering on the field. Not standing on the sidelines making remarks about meat on a bone, or sitting in a luxury box talking about any back can run behind this line, or a fan posting nonsense about what other guys did after a great season.

There is a simple equation to this. Cowboys minus Murray equals poor running game.

Addendum: Then the Madden GMs also thought CJ was done when he ran behind a crappy line with the Jets.

How amazingly wrong can some people be? Evidently very wrong.
 

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Let's clear the air. Murray wanted to stay. He thought a record setting season was worth more than the Cowboys offered. Yet he didn't clean out his locker until after sitting around here for several months, going to sporting events with the QB and Head Coach.

This was a team that did not respect the running game. Or more specifically this running back. The same mindset - by Stephen Jones this time - that brought you "any one of 500 coaches can coach this team."

Murray wanted to stay, but it was evident there were those that preferred he did not because they knew better. Just like some posters on this board.

As much as the line made Murray successful, his contribution made the line successful.

There are contributing factors. And the group advocating "Get out of Town Murray" point to his success in Philly and feel justified for running off a playmaker. However, the truth is, these are the same people who think Chip Kelly is a moron. And they would be half right since Kelly hasn't the first clue how to use Murray.

I had been very adamant all off season that Murray will be missed. I also said Randall is a spare that can get a couple of runs in and then disappear. The mindset is that Randall is a home run hitter and Murray doesn't have the speed to do that.

Yet there are still 60 minutes in the game. And this game, more than anything else, is about winning on third down. Not long touchdown runs that are seldom, even with the best runners ever.

The very same type of thinking that makes a batter who hits at a high average better than a guy who does not but cranks out 40 home runs a year. There is more to winning than the occasional long TD run.

It falls under the category of clock management. That is what Murray brings with the five, six, and seven yarders that move the sticks.

This team misses Murray, and every week it becomes more evident. Surely Dez and Romo factor in, but when you see the dirty yards dry up - the ones where he pushed a pile of defenders an extra couple of yards to gain the first or leave third and short, it becomes crystal clear this team misses Murray.

The front office made a huge mistake, and no argument about cap space is valid since they seem to be able to add players and take on salary. This off season could have been exactly the same and still retained Murray if these guys had gotten off their collective arses and made this work.

They did not. And the results detract from the great off season this team enjoyed because they allowed the running game to walk away.

This is not about Murray leaving, because he wanted to stay.

This is about a front office that outsmarted themselves in believing this team could plug in a low character guy, or a guy too small, or a guy that hasn't done crap in this league and supplant 1800 yards from scrimmage. Because just any old spare can run behind this line.

This is about hubris. In the management of this team and among the fans who were ungrateful for the talent of a guy that loved being the featured back in Dallas and delivered game in and game out. A leader who was reaching his potential and delivering on the field. Not standing on the sidelines making remarks about meat on a bone, or sitting in a luxury box talking about any back can run behind this line, or a fan posting nonsense about what other guys did after a great season.

There is a simple equation to this. Cowboys minus Murray equals poor running game.

Addendum: Then the Madden GMs also thought CJ was done when he ran behind a crappy line with the Jets.

How amazingly wrong can some people be? Evidently very wrong.

My dude! On point today! Thank you! I think Chip is a moron BTW. But for other reasons.
 

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Oh is his boy floundering?? He's like 5 yards less then Randle in the season? He's made up for that the last 2 games. He will by far have more rushing yards on the season then Mr. Tofu eater Randle. We need a real RB and it ain't Randle

Yes Randle sucks what's your point? So does Murray and he's the one with the fat contract.
 

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The idea you run Murray wide, and not use him as a one cut back makes me wonder if Kelly is the results of inbreeding.

Yes! That and his quick pace offense not allowing his defense to get a break. I don't think his design is long for a league where the roster size is 53. I don't think he is mentally capable of adapting. If you listen to the players he's run out of town they do not have glowing things to say about him.

He sits there very smug and he thinks he is smarter then everyone else. But if you can admit fault you're not that smart. I've never heard a coach blame the team to protect his system. Hopefully another collapse this season will send him back to where he belongs on the USC sideline
 

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Yes Randle sucks what's your point? So does Murray and he's the one with the fat contract.

I still don't get the Murray sucks stuff? He ran good behind a terrible offensive line here for the first what 3 years? He will break a 1000 up there if he continues to play like he did the last 2 weeks. You don't suck running for almost 1900 yards. He had just as much to do with that success as the oline last year, he is very good at setting blocks and finding a crease there is not comparison between Randle and Murray.
 

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I still don't get the Murray sucks stuff? He ran good behind a terrible offensive line here for the first what 3 years? He will break a 1000 up there if he continues to play like he did the last 2 weeks. You don't suck running for almost 1900 yards. He had just as much to do with that success as the oline last year, he is very good at setting blocks and finding a crease there is not comparison between Randle and Murray.

These are the same people that never liked Demarco when he was here man. Don't waste your breath.
 

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The Cowboys got rid of Murray.

Their offer was an insult. It's sad because Murray would have taken less money than market value but their offer absolutely drove Murray out of Dallas.

Murray was the catalyst. Now, he's becoming acclimated to the Eagle's system, he is far from done.

I refer to Randle as the Vegetarian, apparently he doesn't eat meat.

Murray was a UFA, so he left on his own accord. No one got rid of him.
Murray had 1 good season in Dallas. Let's not act as if Emmitt Smith in his prime left the team.
I will give Murray credit for that 1 good season, but you'd be a moron to think the O-Line had nothing to do with it & they were just as much of a "catalyst" & he was.
Murray finally had a non-embarrassing game for the Eagles. Let's hold off on his parade.
Randle hasn't done much for us this season but had both Romo & Dez stayed healthy, you think perhaps the meat may have been a lil easier to obtain, even for a vegetarian?
 

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I still don't get the Murray sucks stuff? He ran good behind a terrible offensive line here for the first what 3 years? He will break a 1000 up there if he continues to play like he did the last 2 weeks. You don't suck running for almost 1900 yards. He had just as much to do with that success as the oline last year, he is very good at setting blocks and finding a crease there is not comparison between Randle and Murray.

Yeah when someone says DeMarco Murray sucks they lose any credibility to talk football. It's obvious they haven't watched the guy in his career because prior to last year he never played with an elite offensive line. They were decent in 2013, but far from elite and they were just awful the years prior. In Philadelphia they've been using him wrong, but have started to use him differently in recent weeks and you see the results.
 

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Yeah when someone says DeMarco Murray sucks they lose any credibility to talk football. It's obvious they haven't watched the guy in his career because prior to last year he never played with an elite offensive line. They were decent in 2013, but far from elite and they were just awful the years prior. In Philadelphia they've been using him wrong, but have started to use him differently in recent weeks and you see the results.

People still deliver the basic "but how is Demarco doing in Philly" question with a straight face to boot. It baffles me and makes my inner soul chuckle uncontrollably.
 

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Well, at least for one week, there wasn't much meat left on the bone.
The Cowboys run game was fantastic vs the Giants.
Maybe they can get this cranked up
 

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Well, at least for one week, there wasn't much meat left on the bone.
The Cowboys run game was fantastic vs the Giants.
Maybe they can get this cranked up

Giants also gave up Murray's first 100+yd game of the season (112yds). (Hyde had 93yds the week before). McFadden had 152yds.

I can't help but think that if Randle hadn't gotten hurt, he could have done 152 or better (2 carries, 24yds)
 

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I love the Playmaker. That end world hunger line was classic.

LOL it was truly funny. He does have a point. Knowing that the Cowboys was going with Randle this entire season, I would most certainly made an effort to sign Murray. Our run game is not the same without him.
 

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Let's clear the air. Murray wanted to stay. He thought a record setting season was worth more than the Cowboys offered. Yet he didn't clean out his locker until after sitting around here for several months, going to sporting events with the QB and Head Coach.

This was a team that did not respect the running game. Or more specifically this running back. The same mindset - by Stephen Jones this time - that brought you "any one of 500 coaches can coach this team."

Murray wanted to stay, but it was evident there were those that preferred he did not because they knew better. Just like some posters on this board.

As much as the line made Murray successful, his contribution made the line successful.

There are contributing factors. And the group advocating "Get out of Town Murray" point to his success in Philly and feel justified for running off a playmaker. However, the truth is, these are the same people who think Chip Kelly is a moron. And they would be half right since Kelly hasn't the first clue how to use Murray.

I had been very adamant all off season that Murray will be missed. I also said Randall is a spare that can get a couple of runs in and then disappear. The mindset is that Randall is a home run hitter and Murray doesn't have the speed to do that.

Yet there are still 60 minutes in the game. And this game, more than anything else, is about winning on third down. Not long touchdown runs that are seldom, even with the best runners ever.

The very same type of thinking that makes a batter who hits at a high average better than a guy who does not but cranks out 40 home runs a year. There is more to winning than the occasional long TD run.

It falls under the category of clock management. That is what Murray brings with the five, six, and seven yarders that move the sticks.

This team misses Murray, and every week it becomes more evident. Surely Dez and Romo factor in, but when you see the dirty yards dry up - the ones where he pushed a pile of defenders an extra couple of yards to gain the first or leave third and short, it becomes crystal clear this team misses Murray.

The front office made a huge mistake, and no argument about cap space is valid since they seem to be able to add players and take on salary. This off season could have been exactly the same and still retained Murray if these guys had gotten off their collective arses and made this work.

They did not. And the results detract from the great off season this team enjoyed because they allowed the running game to walk away.

This is not about Murray leaving, because he wanted to stay.

This is about a front office that outsmarted themselves in believing this team could plug in a low character guy, or a guy too small, or a guy that hasn't done crap in this league and supplant 1800 yards from scrimmage. Because just any old spare can run behind this line.

This is about hubris. In the management of this team and among the fans who were ungrateful for the talent of a guy that loved being the featured back in Dallas and delivered game in and game out. A leader who was reaching his potential and delivering on the field. Not standing on the sidelines making remarks about meat on a bone, or sitting in a luxury box talking about any back can run behind this line, or a fan posting nonsense about what other guys did after a great season.

There is a simple equation to this. Cowboys minus Murray equals poor running game.

Addendum: Then the Madden GMs also thought CJ was done when he ran behind a crappy line with the Jets.

How amazingly wrong can some people be? Evidently very wrong.

Great post! Totally agree that the Cowboys dropped the ball. If I knew that they were going with Randle to be our starting back, I would have given Murray what Philly gave him.

We opened our pockets for Ty Crawford with more money that what Murray was asking. Yet we can't sign a playmaker who got us into the playoffs. Big, big mistake by the FO.
 

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Murray was a UFA, so he left on his own accord. No one got rid of him.
Murray had 1 good season in Dallas. Let's not act as if Emmitt Smith in his prime left the team.
I will give Murray credit for that 1 good season, but you'd be a moron to think the O-Line had nothing to do with it & they were just as much of a "catalyst" & he was.
Murray finally had a non-embarrassing game for the Eagles. Let's hold off on his parade.
Randle hasn't done much for us this season but had both Romo & Dez stayed healthy, you think perhaps the meat may have been a lil easier to obtain, even for a vegetarian?

ONE good season? Funny how one earns TWO pro bowls on ONE good season. And if Murray does not get injured his rookie season he easily breaks 1000 yards, Cowboys rookie rushing record and a pro bowl to boot. And this is not starting a game until week 6. The week before he breaks Emmitt's single game rushing record as the 2nd string RB.

One GOOD season? How about one AMAZING season where he not only breaks the Cowboys single season franchise rushing record, breaks NFL record for consecutive 100 yard games, earning 1st team All Pro and Offensive Player of the League. Guess that only qualifies as one GOOD season .... from ungrateful fans with no sense of reality.
 

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All I know is that Dallas finally put together 4 quarters of good running football. The first 100 yard rusher this season and the first one since Murray

What impressed me most about it was the chemistry displayed between the line and DMC he setup his blocks and took advantage of some good blocking.

The line worked for him and he worked for the line he made some tough inside runs that kept his feet moving and pushed the pile for a couple of first downs. The Oline guys love that ****! You have to move forward and continue to use DMC until he can't or he gets hurt because there is chemistry there and it will only open up the passing game now.

It's the first time since Romo went down heck all season that we've seen the run game open up the pass game and its somethings this team can build on like last year.
 

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only thing funnier would be jerry saying that, which i mistakenly thought it had been. but omg irvin :laugh:
 
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