Irvin Press Conference Live - 3/14/2023

MaineBoy

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Her body language says it all, her head goes back a couple of times which shows she was laughing at something he said and the fact she had her hands behind her back and kicked her foot forward shows me nothing was said to her that was insulting and when she was walking away, her head was towards Michael and saying something to Mike
So the first 3/4 of the tape show her nodding her head affirmatively a lot so I thought it was innocuous enough. But then things change: she steps back a couple of times, uses her hands in a wave motion that does not look affirming. She deliberately takes a wide berth around Mike as she leaves. Then why is Mike looking in her direction a couple of times after she leaves and then slapping himself ? I love me some 88, and this tape is inconclusive, but it didn’t help him.
 

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They were speaking to expecting her to slap him after a comment or something physical. This case was never about something physical but I think Irvin's team knows that plays better to get people "outraged" so they made it about that despite Mike's own words that it was about something he said to the employee.
Oh look.

You wanting something to be true about Irvin that isnt. Further proving you have it out for the guy. But. You're "objective"
 

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So the first 3/4 of the tape show her nodding her head affirmatively a lot so I thought it was innocuous enough. But then things change: she steps back a couple of times, uses her hands in a wave motion that does not look affirming. She deliberately takes a wide berth around Mike as she leaves. Then why is Mike looking in her direction a couple of times after she leaves and then slapping himself ? I love me some 88, and this tape is inconclusive, but it didn’t help him.
This is what I said in my edit. Twice he reached out and she backed up. That looked strange. But there is so much context missing.

I also think it’s weird Mike said he didn’t remember the convo at all but today he was specific. I’m sure that will be brought up.

But overall not a lot has changed to sway me one way or another
 

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Security was with her by that point. And what about those two "no-like" motions she did with her hands? She did back up several times as he moved forward too. What about that body language? That looks defensive to me.

The real point of this video is that it more matches Marriott's account than that of Irvin's lawyers or his witnesses, right down to the point of the 2nd employee taking a picture with Mike and then showing Mike the elevator at the end to which Irvin's lawyer today actually narrated. Does that huge point not deserve a mention? Or the fact that Irvin's lawyer says the woman's manager "grabbed her" at the end when he just told her to come with him. Let's not be selective here. Lol.
I would back away from anyone who seemed drunk that stepped toward me period. That means nothing to me. It looked cordial and she instigated the conversation it seems.
 

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This is what I said in my edit. Twice he reached out and she backed up. That looked strange. But there is so much context missing.

I also think it’s weird Mike said he didn’t remember the convo at all but today he was specific. I’m sure that will be brought up.

But overall not a lot has changed to sway me one way or another
The way Mike described in on the infamous radio comments the next day, I expected to see a 45 second encounter where he stopped briefly and then was on his way. Mike’s credibility took a slight hit for me.
 

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I would imagine in 90% of workplaces, IF this incident happened as claimed, it would be handled by bringing both parties in to HR, issuing a warning about the behavior and documenting things, end of story unless something else occurs.

Instead we have a person kicked out of a hotel and told not to work.
 

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Her body language says it all, her head goes back a couple of times which shows she was laughing at something he said and the fact she had her hands behind her back and kicked her foot forward shows me nothing was said to her that was insulting and when she was walking away, her head was towards Michael and saying something to Mike
Throwing your head back doesn't mean you're laughing. Cmon man
 

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Interesting that we are now (I believe for the first time) hearing about a "boss" who seemed a bit perturbed at her. And yeah, that manager guy did seem quite a bit impatient and he was clearly waiting for her. Was she late for a shift? Or supposed to be elsewhere?

Regardless, I just don't see anything Irvin did wrong here. He treated everyone that same. When he was outside at the start of the tape, he was shaking hands and posing for pictures with his arm gently on the other guy's back. After the woman leaves, he takes another picture with a fan, once again with his arm gently on the fan's back. I saw a celebrity being friendly with the fans, nothing more.
 

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I would imagine in 90% of workplaces, IF this incident happened as claimed, it would be handled by bringing both parties in to HR, issuing a warning about the behavior and documenting things, end of story unless something else occurs.

Instead we have a person kicked out of a hotel and told not to work.
I don’t think so! With an incident like this you have someone staying in the hotel who will have multiple encounters with the person who feels harassed. They cut this out by moving him. Then the NFL Network catches wind of it snd there is no way they can not react or they will get slammed by women’s groups etc for being insensitive. They all did it by a playbook until more information was gathered.
 

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People who had prior opinions have stated different interpretation of the video. So I believe the prior quote was correct.
What's correct about it? Because I see Irvin not doing anything close to sexual assault.
 

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What's correct about it? Because I see Irvin not doing anything close to sexual assault.
Right, but people who had an opinion of him guilty are saying they view it otherwise.

Which is why I agree with him saying people are seeing what they want.
 
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