Is Bill Parcells "OK" all the Recent Media Hype? ...The Saga Continues

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I think the biggest worry about Tucker was that he would be re-signed for 2006.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
You're a danGerous Cowboys poster stasheroo. Some Posters here believe that I have ulterior motives when I post here. But you ...

I'm suspicious because you elected to ask me this question as I responded to vinatge. Uncertain why, But I'll go along with your question for now.

Here's your answer. An easy question ...yes! Not Because we don't have depth, but because Art gave us some good years in the past. But he was injured, and he's trying to come back healthy -- Just not as an Eagle. But we have some very strong, young, experienced depth On our OL ...Andrews just got a Nice contract. I'm worried, because I don't have all of the information that I'd Need to not be worried. But the bottom line Is I'm confident that the Eagles OL is healthy and experienced. That'll do for now ...of course training camp will tell the rest of the story.

My reason for asking is that I feel you should answer questions as well as ask them, that's all.

You have asked questions about the Cowboys on various subjects and I think those same questions apply to your team and I'm wondering how you see them being answered. Questions regarding chemistry, offensive line, media attention, etc. I think those circumstances apply to both teams.

I thought Hicks was a fine player - at tackle. I feel he's miscast in the guard role, and I feel Herremans will be as well if they try to play him there. I think Clarke or Jean-Gilles would be a better fit. But as a Cowboys fan, I hope they try to force a tackle into the guard role because it would make my team's job easier.
 

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Vintage said:
Thank you.

I assumed it was apparent to everyone from the posts I had back and forth with you that both of us were being sarcastic in light of the "other key player" statement.

I assumed even PT would be able to pick up on it.

I guess I assumed too much.

My Intent in this thread wasn't to go back and forth being sarcadtic with viantage. You know what? It's so unimportant at this Point. Whatever I say you jump automatically to the some poster attack mode. It's as If you've taken it upon yourself to wagt some type of campaign to attack.

Look, I feel good about your explanation if you do!? Drop it. It's Not good dialogue ...it's not fun with you vintage. Next you'll tell me you knew about the Tucker loss.:rolleyes:
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
You're a danGerous Cowboys poster stasheroo. Some Posters here believe that I have ulterior motives when I post here. But you ...

stasheroo plays your game quite well. I've got to hand it to him.

see also; false flattery.

Here's your answer. An easy question ...yes! Not Because we don't have depth, but because Art gave us some good years in the past. But he was injured, and he's trying to come back healthy -- Just not as an Eagle. But we have some very strong, young, experienced depth On our OL ...Andrews just got a Nice contract. I'm worried, because I don't have all of the information that I'd Need to not be worried. But the bottom line Is I'm confident that the Eagles OL is healthy and experienced. That'll do for now ...of course training camp will tell the rest of the story.

:confused::confused::confused:
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
My Intent in this thread wasn't to go back and forth being sarcadtic with viantage. You know what? It's so unimportant at this Point. Whatever I say you jump automatically to the some poster attack mode. It's as If you've taken it upon yourself to wagt some type of campaign to attack.

Look, I feel good about your explanation if you do!? Drop it. It's Not good dialogue ...it's not fun with you vintage. Next you'll tell me you knew about the Tucker loss.:rolleyes:

No...see....its really this simple.

You said we lost a key OL other than Allen.

I am still awaiting your response to who this key OL player is.
 

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superpunk said:
The art of the set-up is lost on some.

Overly pompous words like "enlighten" in that case are generally used for sarcastic effect. Generally someone only begs for information they already know. In other words,

No sir ..this time it's you that's wrong ...

Here's his first post On this thread ...indeed< the first post on this thread period! ...

OK. Let's save 10 pages worth of discussion.
You think Owens is going to be a cancer in Dallas. Your probably hope so.
We disagree.
End of thread. I hope.

Now, are you going to tell me that I took this Poster serious!? I think you know differently, but I think I understand your position In this. If not .. then I'm through with this!
 

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No sir ..this time it's you that's wrong ...

Here's his first post On this thread ...indeed< the first post on this thread period! ...



Now, are you going to tell me that I took this Poster serious!? I think you know differently, but I think I understand your position In this. If not .. then I'm through with this!

So.... Who is that other (not Allen) key OL player we lost, again...?
 

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stasheroo said:
My reason for asking is that I feel you should answer questions as well as ask them, that's all.

You have asked questions about the Cowboys on various subjects and I think those same questions apply to your team and I'm wondering how you see them being answered. Questions regarding chemistry, offensive line, media attention, etc. I think those circumstances apply to both teams.

I thought Hicks was a fine player - at tackle. I feel he's miscast in the guard role, and I feel Herremans will be as well if they try to play him there. I think Clarke or Jean-Gilles would be a better fit. But as a Cowboys fan, I hope they try to force a tackle into the guard role because it would make my team's job easier.

Fair response. I hear your Point. But I'm sure even as a Cowboys fan you'll understand the Need for the Offensive Line coaching staff to make those decisions. As an Eagles fan, I have full confidence that the same mistakes made in 2005 will not be repeated In 2006.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
I'm not challenging your Cowboys football savvy, But


Have you ever heard of:



77 Torrin Tucker, G
Height/Weight: 6-6/315
Birthdate: 12/25/1979
Birthplace: Meridian, MS, USA

Team: Dallas Cowboys
College: Southern Miss.
NFL Experience: 4





and:







73 Larry Allen, G
Height/Weight: 6-3/325
Birthdate: 11/27/1971
Birthplace: Los Angeles, CA, USA

College: Sonoma State
NFL Experience: 13



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Curious here, what would lead you to believe that Allan or Tucker were considered Key players on our OL?
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Fair response. I hear your Point. But I'm sure even as a Cowboys fan you'll understand the Need for the Offensive Line coaching staff to make those decisions. As an Eagles fan, I have full confidence that the same mistakes made in 2005 will not be repeated In 2006.

Sure do.

In fact, I need to have faith that the Cowboys know what they're doing with regard to Kyle Kosier.

I don't question their decision to release Larry Allen however. He was ill-suited to the new blocking schemes and has been a declining player living on reputation for the past several years. It was time to make a change.

As a fan, I hope their talent department did a good job scouting the available guards and Kosier was the best available.

But I wouldn't consider Allen a "loss" when the Cowboys chose to let him go, rather than somehow "losing him".
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
No sir ..this time it's you that's wrong ...

Here's his first post On this thread ...indeed< the first post on this thread period! ...

Now, are you going to tell me that I took this Poster serious!? I think you know differently, but I think I understand your position In this. If not .. then I'm through with this!

I can't make heads or tails of this.
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Are you kidding me, I've got them exactly where I want them.:rolleyes:

PT, I'm a little bit disappointed in you. You flat ripped off the Jets NY Sack Exchange of the early 80s. Gastineau, Klecko, Salaam and Marty Lyons I think were the real Sack Exchange.

You can do better then that.
 

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PT, I'm a little bit disappointed in you. You flat ripped off the Jets NY Sack Exchange of the early 80s. Gastineau, Klecko, Salaam and Marty Lyons I think were the real Sack Exchange.

You can do better then that.

He can sure come up with a better lineup of players!

I mean 14 1/2 combined sacks?!?!?!

Heck, Gastineau himself did better than that.....

:lmao:
 

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ABQCOWBOY said:
PT, I'm a little bit disappointed in you. You flat ripped off the Jets NY Sack Exchange of the early 80s. Gastineau, Klecko, Salaam and Marty Lyons I think were the real Sack Exchange.You can do better then that.

Oh buck up! Do you really want to use this old antiquated version of the sack exchange ...

R5BWRTSE67WQ.jpg


Come On!
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Oh buck up! Do you really want to use this old antiquated version of the sack exchange ...

R5BWRTSE67WQ.jpg


Come On!

Yeah, because they um................

actually got sacks!!!

I think a defensive line would have to do that to be referred to in that way, don't you?
 

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Yeah, because they um................

actually got sacks!!!

I think a defensive line would have to do that to be referred to in that way, don't you?

You aren't making any sense. You're tryIng to say that Kearse, and Howard and the Others don't make sacks ...that's a foolish thing to say and youb really know I'm right.

Look, out of the 4 players in the original Jets NY Sack Exchange ...Gastineau, Klecko, Salaam and Marty Lyons, how many are in the all-time sack list?

Turney&#8217;s All-Time Sack list

[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]1.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE-DT Reggie White (1985-98)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]192.5 ...Former Eagles[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]2.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Deacon Jones (1961-74)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]173.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]3. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Bruce Smith (1985-99)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]171.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]4.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]OLB-DE Kevin Greene (1985-99)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]160.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]5.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Jack Youngblood (1971-84)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]151.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]6. [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE-OLB Chris Doleman (1985-99)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]151.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]7.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DT Alan Page (1967-81)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]148.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]8.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]OLB Lawrence Taylor (1981-93)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]142.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]9.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Richard Dent (1983-97) [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]137.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]10.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]OLB-DE Rickey Jackson (1981-95) [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]136.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]11.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Carl Eller (1964-79)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]133.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]12.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE-OLB Leslie O[/FONT]&#8217;[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]Neal (1986-99)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]132.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]13.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE-DT Coy Bacon (1968-81) [/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]130.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]14.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Al Baker (1978-90)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]128.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]15.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]DE Jim Marshall (1960-79)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]127.0[/FONT]
[FONT=Helvetica,Arial]16.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]OLB-DE Derrick Thomas (1989-99)[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica,Arial]126.5[/FONT]

None! At least the updated Philadelphia Sack Exchange has a chance to get on that list.



 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Oh buck up! Do you really want to use this old antiquated version of the sack exchange ...

R5BWRTSE67WQ.jpg


Come On!


Well, until you can represent them in a respectable manner, yeah. You trying to represent and aging Kearse, a first and second year guy in Bunkley and Patterson and finally Howard as the Sack Exchange is frankly insulting to the real Sack Exchange IMO.
 
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