Is Bill Parcells "OK" all the Recent Media Hype? ...The Saga Continues

Vintage said:
Again, the question must be asked....

PT: What other KEY OL have we lost besides Allen? that other KEY OL have we lost besides Allen?

Actually your persistence is a quality I admire. Alright! I'll stop ignoring you ...

Hopefully, you'll accept an answer that was posted By a COwboys Fan ...

Sportsmemo: Sports from a Vegas Perspective

Posted: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:00 AM
cowboys.jpg

Overview: Bill Parcells and the Dallas Cowboys begin their fourth year together with a new look offensive line and more additions to the Parcells' 3-4 defense. The Cowboys will look to improve on their 24th best run defense in 2005 and shoot for the playoffs after missing them for the second straight year.

"Key" Subtractions:
La’Roi Glover Defensive Tackle
Scott Fujita Linebacker
Keyshawn Johnson Wide Receiver
Larry Allen Offensive Guard
Torrin Tucker Offensive Tackle
Dat Nguyen Linebacker

Let it go...
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
Hopefully, you'll accept an answer that was posted By a COwboys Fan ...

Sportsmemo: Sports from a Vegas Perspective
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Your quoting that rag???

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
Actually your persistence is a quality I admire. Alright! I'll stop ignoring you ...

Hopefully, you'll accept an answer that was posted By a COwboys Fan ...

Sportsmemo: Sports from a Vegas Perspective

Posted: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:00 AM
cowboys.jpg

Overview: Bill Parcells and the Dallas Cowboys begin their fourth year together with a new look offensive line and more additions to the Parcells' 3-4 defense. The Cowboys will look to improve on their 24th best run defense in 2005 and shoot for the playoffs after missing them for the second straight year.

"Key" Subtractions:
La’Roi Glover Defensive Tackle
Scott Fujita Linebacker
Keyshawn Johnson Wide Receiver
Larry Allen Offensive Guard
Torrin Tucker Offensive Tackle
Dat Nguyen Linebacker

Let it go...

Good. Now I got you to admit to calling Torrin Tucker a key loss.

That alone destroys any credibility you might have had.

Care to explain to me how losing someone who damn near gave up double digit sacks in only 10 starts is a key loss?
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
Actually your persistence is a quality I admire. Alright! I'll stop ignoring you ...

Hopefully, you'll accept an answer that was posted By a COwboys Fan ...

Sportsmemo: Sports from a Vegas Perspective

Posted: Friday, July 14, 2006 12:00 AM
cowboys.jpg

Overview: Bill Parcells and the Dallas Cowboys begin their fourth year together with a new look offensive line and more additions to the Parcells' 3-4 defense. The Cowboys will look to improve on their 24th best run defense in 2005 and shoot for the playoffs after missing them for the second straight year.

"Key" Subtractions:
La’Roi Glover Defensive Tackle
Scott Fujita Linebacker
Keyshawn Johnson Wide Receiver
Larry Allen Offensive Guard
Torrin Tucker Offensive Tackle
Dat Nguyen Linebacker

Let it go...


You can't seriously think Torrin Tucker is a key offensive lineman, can you? I mean, I know you don't follow the team as closely as we do, but c'mon.... Torrin freaking Tucker? He was easily the worst offensive lineman in all of the known universe. Torrin Tucker?

Getting rid of TT should be a textbook example of addition by subtraction.
 
big dog cowboy said:
Your quoting that rag???


No! I was merely responding to a posters inquiry, which Identified subtracted players as "Key" players. I don't necessarily agree with the writers perspectives.
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
No! I was merely responding to a posters inquiry, which Identified subtracted players as "Key" players. I don't necessarily agree with the writers perspectives.

Correct me if you're wrong, but you said something along the lines of, "Your offensive line will be worse, because you've lost Larry Allen and another key offensive lineman (as you stated, he was Torrin Tucker), and you won't get a player as good/better than those players.

Is Kosier better than Larry Allen? I don't know, the only video I've seen of Kosier is him getting owned by LaVar Arrington. Then again, you can't judge a person based on one play. So who knows if Kosier is better. The thing that makes me feel good about it is that our scouts have proven that they can find good players (Witten, Newman, Henry, Ware, Canty, Spears, etc.). Larry Allen had one positive, a good first hit, but he is slow, and that's a problem for the new type of offensive line we want (We want a fast, swinging type of offensive line.) IMO, Kosier fits this better. So I'd say that Kosier is better or equal to Allen.

Is Fabini better than Tucker? Duh.
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
As the Cowboys HC, I'm certain that you guys know Bill Parcells far better than I do. However, I respect Bill Parcells as a future HOF coach. That's why I believe that Bill Parcells is not comfortable (to say the Least) with all of the individual attention ...I Mean, can you spell EXPLOIT-A-TO-N (SIC)?

In past years, Bill Parcells has displayed utter sarcasm, use of strong language, and total frustration resulting in walking out on media questions ...and I say Bill was right most of the times. That said, I've drawn the impression that Bill doesn't relish in too much media coverage about the team; especially if it presents a distraction for the team.

I just wonder how Bill feels about TOs decision to have a "book signing" just prior to training camp opening. I mean you can tell me that it's alrigght because the operant word is "berfore" training camp ...not duriNg. But is that being fair to Bill Parcells. Shouldn't that energy be focused on having a great training camp ...a team effort. We've seen it before, TO Is after one thing ...the benefit of self. A poster on another thread had some real nice pictures of TO ...nothing relevant to the Cowboys.

One more note before I'm thrashed ...I haven't read the good book of TO, but does anyone know whether he thanks the Cowboys, or gives credit to Dallas in any way for believing in him. I have to take my hat off to the Cowboys owner for taking such a huge chance ...but do you really think TO truly appreciates that chance ...and are these series of book signings timely
events?

Just curious to find out how you feel about all this attention ...shouldn't this time be used to establish team ...chemistry?
You should go the Cowboys official website and download the video of TO's QandA at his recent book signing.
TO explains about Parcells and about the book signing and about whether or not Parcells has talked to TO about the book.
That should answer all your questions.
 
Vintage said:
Good. Now I got you to admit to calling Torrin Tucker a key loss.

That alone destroys any credibility you might have had.

Care to explain to me how losing someone who damn near gave up double digit sacks in only 10 starts is a key loss?

He didn't damn near give up double digit sacks, he did in fact give up double digit sacks. 12.5 sacks in 10 games

One of the bigger reasons for our collapse last season
 
PT, BP actually relishes the media, he uses it to deflect alot of attention off his players and onto himself, he does more PCs than most coaches
 
1fisher said:
so what do you think about Jason Witten cooking at Bennihanas (sp).... do you think his timing is bad too? Or are you just obsessed with what TO does?:cool:

Jason Witten is an awesome talent.
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
As the Cowboys HC, I'm certain that you guys know Bill Parcells far better than I do. However, I respect Bill Parcells as a future HOF coach. That's why I believe that Bill Parcells is not comfortable (to say the Least) with all of the individual attention ...I Mean, can you spell EXPLOIT-A-TO-N (SIC)?

In past years, Bill Parcells has displayed utter sarcasm, use of strong language, and total frustration resulting in walking out on media questions ...and I say Bill was right most of the times. That said, I've drawn the impression that Bill doesn't relish in too much media coverage about the team; especially if it presents a distraction for the team.

I just wonder how Bill feels about TOs decision to have a "book signing" just prior to training camp opening. I mean you can tell me that it's alrigght because the operant word is "berfore" training camp ...not duriNg. But is that being fair to Bill Parcells. Shouldn't that energy be focused on having a great training camp ...a team effort. We've seen it before, TO Is after one thing ...the benefit of self. A poster on another thread had some real nice pictures of TO ...nothing relevant to the Cowboys.

One more note before I'm thrashed ...I haven't read the good book of TO, but does anyone know whether he thanks the Cowboys, or gives credit to Dallas in any way for believing in him. I have to take my hat off to the Cowboys owner for taking such a huge chance ...but do you really think TO truly appreciates that chance ...and are these series of book signings timely
events?

Just curious to find out how you feel about all this attention ...shouldn't this time be used to establish team ...chemistry?

Here is my response to ALL TO related topics:
Not one of us know how TO will effect the Dallas Cowboys good or bad.
Ask yourself was TO, Pinkston, Westbrook, Lewis a better cast weapons than
TO, Glenn, Witten, Jones? HELL NO!
So if you are playing against us, deep inside you hope and pray he explodes, because if all is well that spells doom for all Cowboys opponets in 2006!
The flip side is we could be torn apart if he continues his soap opera type games.
So keep beating the drum of doom, becaause it may come in the form of Dallas team Harmony and high explosive offense.

It has been a pleasure enlightining those of you with little faith.
I will be here all week.
Good day!
 
Vintage said:
Good. Now I got you to admit to calling Torrin Tucker a key loss.

That alone destroys any credibility you might have had.

Care to explain to me how losing someone who damn near gave up double digit sacks in only 10 starts is a key loss?

Damn near?

I thought he gave up 12. Those were 12 "key" sacks though.

Torrin Tucker was the "key" to our second half collapse. Hell, without Torrin Tucker, maybe we make the Conference Championship.

And, in PT's defense, he didn't say what sort of a "key" loss Tucker was. He could have meant anything, right?:rolleyes:
 
BigDFan5 said:
He didn't damn near give up double digit sacks, he did in fact give up double digit sacks. 12.5 sacks in 10 games

One of the bigger reasons for our collapse last season

apparently, I was late to the party. :p:
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
As the Cowboys HC, I'm certain that you guys know Bill Parcells far better than I do. However, I respect Bill Parcells as a future HOF coach. That's why I believe that Bill Parcells is not comfortable (to say the Least) with all of the individual attention ...I Mean, can you spell EXPLOIT-A-TO-N (SIC)?

I just wonder how Bill feels about TOs decision to have a "book signing" just prior to training camp opening. I mean you can tell me that it's alrigght because the operant word is "berfore" training camp ...not duriNg. But is that being fair to Bill Parcells. Shouldn't that energy be focused on having a great training camp ...a team effort. We've seen it before, TO Is after one thing ...the benefit of self. A poster on another thread had some real nice pictures of TO ...nothing relevant to the Cowboys.

One more note before I'm thrashed ...I haven't read the good book of TO, but does anyone know whether he thanks the Cowboys, or gives credit to Dallas in any way for believing in him. I have to take my hat off to the Cowboys owner for taking such a huge chance ...but do you really think TO truly appreciates that chance ...and are these series of book signings timely
events?

Just curious to find out how you feel about all this attention ...shouldn't this time be used to establish team ...chemistry?

Parcells reportedly told T.O. to take care of his personal business before training camp, that he knew about the book and all that, but just take care of it before training camp, so that his focus can to totally football when it had to be.

T.O. is going to be a lot different player this time around, because he had learned from his experience in Philadelphia. Suspending him for the remainder of the season really was the smart thing to do, for both parties. It got the Eagles out from under him, and also got T.O.s attention that he will never have the last word.

The Cowboys will end up thanking the Eagles for a lot more than just releasing T.O. for them to sign him.
 
1fisher said:
you didn't answer my question, PT!!!!!!!:mad:

Wait a minute 1F. Are you seriously mad by my not anwswering the questions the way you wanted me to? Look I'm Not trying to be illusive, I just hadn't heard anything about Jason witten's culinary skills.

Tell me a little more information and I'll do some research and get back to you.:(
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
As the Cowboys HC, I'm certain that you guys know Bill Parcells far better than I do. However, I respect Bill Parcells as a future HOF coach. That's why I believe that Bill Parcells is not comfortable (to say the Least) with all of the individual attention ...I Mean, can you spell EXPLOIT-A-TO-N (SIC)?

In past years, Bill Parcells has displayed utter sarcasm, use of strong language, and total frustration resulting in walking out on media questions ...and I say Bill was right most of the times. That said, I've drawn the impression that Bill doesn't relish in too much media coverage about the team; especially if it presents a distraction for the team.

I just wonder how Bill feels about TOs decision to have a "book signing" just prior to training camp opening. I mean you can tell me that it's alrigght because the operant word is "berfore" training camp ...not duriNg. But is that being fair to Bill Parcells. Shouldn't that energy be focused on having a great training camp ...a team effort. We've seen it before, TO Is after one thing ...the benefit of self. A poster on another thread had some real nice pictures of TO ...nothing relevant to the Cowboys.

One more note before I'm thrashed ...I haven't read the good book of TO, but does anyone know whether he thanks the Cowboys, or gives credit to Dallas in any way for believing in him. I have to take my hat off to the Cowboys owner for taking such a huge chance ...but do you really think TO truly appreciates that chance ...and are these series of book signings timely
events?

Just curious to find out how you feel about all this attention ...shouldn't this time be used to establish team ...chemistry?
WRZ aka Loneterrier is that you.............this post reminds me of the good 'ol DMN forum:)
 
Phoenix-Talon said:
Wait a minute 1F. Are you seriously mad by my not anwswering the questions the way you wanted me to? Look I'm Not trying to be illusive, I just hadn't heard anything about Jason witten's culinary skills.

Tell me a little more information and I'll do some research and get back to you.:(


I just want to know if you think the timing for Witten's cooking competition is as bad as the timing of TO's book signing??? you do know he could accidentally let the knife slip or something..... he's only a couple of weeks away from training camp you know!!!!!!............ and don't take the smiley personally.... I don't get mad at folks over petty things!:eek: :cool:
 
1fisher said:
I just want to know if you think the timing for Witten's cooking competition is as bad as the timing of TO's book signing??? you do know he could accidentally let the knife slip or something..... he's only a couple of weeks away from training camp you know!!!!!!............ and don't take the smiley personally.... I don't get mad at folks over petty things!:eek: :cool:

Ok, now I get it. You're giving a contrast of pre-training camp events as it applies to the T.O. book signing; and the timeliness of it all.

Acually these are two entirely different events. My having No idea of Jason Wittens' cooking event is indicative of the media coverage provided to TO versus Wittens.

Coupled with the fact that TO has a trail of history that could be considered baggage. Witten, on the other hand, has a good reputation.

Besides, the content of Wittens event has a positive connotation versus the TO event having a precarious content filled with drama.

Bottom line is that in one event you have a player representing the good name of the team by doing something positive in the community. The other event is questionable and drws attention to a self profiteer.

Two totally different activities.

I Hope I've shown an attempt to respond to your question in this response.

BTW, I knew you weren't mad.:rolleyes:
 

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