Is Cowboys OL Good Enough To Win The NFCE?

[nalam]

Most of Daks sacks were on him. He has extremely poor pocket awareness.

More than that reluctance to get rid of the ball or throw predetermined precise routes.

He needs OL to give him time to process ( Zone coverage is a weakness for him ) and receivers to show physical separation, that was possible in 2016 OL but not with average OL.

 

[Hardline]

Easy to say from a keyboard....Burrow took many sacks, I guess those were his fault too.

How hard is it to fire the ball into the turf?
I'm not saying every sack is on Dak. But the majority of them were.

 

[Hardline]

Do you have anything to back up this ridiculous assertion?

The fact that he was top 5 in sack percentage last year, I would take this as a compliment then.

Yes . I do have something to back this up. It's called game tape.

 

[Ranching]

How hard is it to fire the ball into the turf?
I'm not saying every sack is on Dak. But the majority of them were.

I never played QB.....did you? If so, then I'll have to agree with yoy.

 

[G2]

 

[Hardline]

How hard is it to fire the ball into the turf?
I'm not saying every sack is on Dak. But the majority of them were.

Actually this would be intentional grounding. LOL

 

[kskboys]

Actually this would be intentional grounding. LOL

Not if a player is right there.

 

[Ken]

Yes . I do have something to back this up. It's called game tape.

Ok, show us what you are seeing because I have game tape and what you are saying is not at all true.

 

[Hardline]

Ok, show us what you are seeing because I have game tape and what you are saying is not at all true.

You absolutely don't have game tape if you are coming to your conclusion. You are just a Dak jock sniffer that has a man crush crush on him.

 

[zrinkill]

Yes . I do have something to back this up. It's called game tape.

No its called youtube replays and your bias against our Dak quarterback.

 

[KJJ]

We won’t know if the OL is going to hold up until the season starts. Philly has added some beef on their DL. Our OL will be tested early because most of the teams that we’ll be facing the first part of the season have strong defensive fronts.

 

[cowboyec]

yes...til proven other wise.

 

[Hardline]

No its called youtube replays and your bias against our Dak quarterback.

I have no bias. And gametape isn't youtube highlights. Game tape is full game tape.

 

[conner01]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

I don’t think we know if they are good enough but I do think they are really the key to the season

 

[xwalker]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

• LG
  • Tyler Smith could play tomorrow and would already be a better LG than Connor Williams & I was not a CW hater.
  • The difference in physical talent is drastic.

• RT
  • When I review game footage of the OL from last season, I always come away thinking that La'el was really over-rated.
    • He has very good physical talent, but he is a very dumb player and has a bit of a lazy streak.
  • Steele is not quite a physically talented, but he has become a better overall player at RT.

• OC
  • The power of Tyler Smith at LG will help Biadasz.
  • Farniok has a legit chance to win the OC job.
    • He looked much better then expected for late round rookie OL.
    • He appeared to be ahead of McGovern on the OC depth chart.

• RG
  • Zack Martin...

• LT
  • The biggest question mark on offense appears to be the backup LT.
  • The good news is that Tyron did not have any back/neck issues last season and he played 100% of snaps in the playoff game.
    • He finally had the back/neck surgery (in 2020) that was recommended by Doctors about 4 or 5 years ago.
  • The bad news is that he is a significant injury risk until proven otherwise.

• Swing Tackle
  • I don't think that they will move Tyler Smith to LT unless all other options fail.
  • Worst case, they move Steele to LT and Martin to RT with Farniok or McGovern at RG.
  • Waldo:
    • Seems doubtful to play as a rookie. He has very good athletic ability but was very raw in college.
    • Having said that, Steele played as a rookie and he didn't really look NFL ready in college.
  • Josh Ball:
    • I'm not going to put any stock into 1 comment by Broaddus that Josh Ball "looks small'.
      • Broaddus is wrong more often than not.
    • Having said that, I'm not certain what to make of Ball practicing primarily at RT (Based on S.Jones comments and OTA reports).
      • Glass Half Full: He always played LT in college and would need more work at RT if he is going to be the Swing Tackle.
      • Glass Half Empty: Somebody else is ahead of him as the backup LT.
  • Aviante Collins:
    • 2021 practice squad player.
    • Started 1 game with the Vikings in 2019.
    • Had the 3rd fastest forty of any OL, ever and had 34 bench reps.
  • Amon Simon: Small college LT (A&M Commerce)
  • James Empey: Listed at OC. Played LT and OC in college.
  • Free Agent or Trade:
    • Teams that drafted an OT early in the draft, often wait to see how that player looks in training camp.
      • If the draft pick wins the job, then the veteran is often too expensive to keep and ends up in the final cuts.
      • The Bears got 15 starts from Jason Peters (now 40 years old) in 2021.
    • Some veteran free agents will decline offers to become a Swing Tackle until training camp because they're looking for an offer to compete for a starting spot.

 

[buybuydandavis]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

Is Cowboys OL *Coordinator* Good Enough To Win The NFCE?

Philbin took the rib eye he was given and made meatloaf out of it.

 

[buybuydandavis]

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• Swing Tackle
  • I don't think that they will move Tyler Smith to LT unless all other options fail.
  • Worst case, they move Steele to LT and Martin to RT with Farniok or McGovern at RG.

How far down on the options do you think Martin at RT is? Unless they have him practicing at it, I'm against it. We moved him out there and he injures his calf for the year. If you're 320lbs, you should train that muscle memory for the kickslide so you can use it efficiently before you use it for real in a game.

You're probably right about them not moving Tyler Smith to LT, but I'm against it. Should have kept Williams cross trained at LT while he was here. All the more should do it with Tyler, who we plan on moving to LT eventually.

 

[buybuydandavis]

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• OC
  • The power of Tyler Smith at LG will help Biadasz.
  • Farniok has a legit chance to win the OC job.
    • He looked much better then expected for late round rookie OL.
    • He appeared to be ahead of McGovern on the OC depth chart.

Just another year in the NFL will help Biadasz. His power should be on the upswing for a couple of years at least.

Despite McGovern having played C in college, seems like they'd put any warm body at C before him.

 

[buybuydandavis]

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• RT
  • When I review game footage of the OL from last season, I always come away thinking that La'el was really over-rated.
    • He has very good physical talent, but he is a very dumb player and has a bit of a lazy streak.
  • Steele is not quite a physically talented, but he has become a better overall player at RT.

Coaching matters. La'el was once generally considered a player on his way to the Pro Bowl. A guy with a mean streak who got after his guy to the whistle. Maybe he's old and got paid, but coaching changes have been bad for La'el before. Mr. Experienced from Cincinnati(?) set La'el back with his technique changes.

Part of the "lazy" you see might just be how Philbin coaches them. Nate says he's holding them back. Having them play more passively and reactively than aggressively. The opposite of what is good for Collins and our other big horses on the oline. But probably worst for Collins.

 

[xwalker]

How far down on the options do you think Martin at RT is? Unless they have him practicing at it, I'm against it. We moved him out there and he injures his calf for the year. If you're 320lbs, you should train that muscle memory for the kickslide so you can use it efficiently before you use it for real in a game.

You're probably right about them not moving Tyler Smith to LT, but I'm against it. Should have kept Williams cross trained at LT while he was here. All the more should do it with Tyler, who we plan on moving to LT eventually.

Yes, Tyler Smith should take some practice reps at LT, but I don't want to see him play there as a rookie.
- If Zack Martin was at LG next to him, then I would be a bit less apprehensive, but with somebody like McGovern at LG, that would not help Tyler at LT.

If somebody does not clearly win the Swing Tackle spot in camp, then I expect them to acquire a veteran (trade or cap cut by some team during camp).
- If Tyron does miss games and if their Swing Tackle fails at LT, then they'll move Steele to LT and try any warm body at RT.
- At least the RT gets help from Zack Martin.
- Only if that fails would they move Martin to RT.