Is Cowboys OL Good Enough To Win The NFCE?

[Ranched]

He played pretty good considering the injury he came back from. Not sure why he doesn't get a lil slack for that. Oh well. Let's see what happens this year, I will be a cheerleader.

Do you have anything to back up this ridiculous assertion?

The fact that he was top 5 in sack percentage last year, I would take this as a compliment then.

Haters don't allow themselves to see the positives in our young quarterback, only the negatives. After all, they could a lot better at center!

How hard is it to fire the ball into the turf?
I'm not saying every sack is on Dak. But the majority of them were.

That's all they need, another penalty....Intentionall Grounding!

 

[plasticman]

If Tyron can play at a high level for 13 to 15 games then I would say yes. However, if he is missing for more than half a season the Cowboys are in trouble unless they make a good veteran free agent move or trade.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Yes, Tyler Smith should take some practice reps at LT, but I don't want to see him play there as a rookie.
- If Zack Martin was at LG next to him, then I would be a bit less apprehensive, but with somebody like McGovern at LG, that would not help Tyler at LT.

If somebody does not clearly win the Swing Tackle spot in camp, then I expect them to acquire a veteran (trade or cap cut by some team during camp).
- If Tyron does miss games and if their Swing Tackle fails at LT, then they'll move Steele to LT and try any warm body at RT.
- At least the RT gets help from Zack Martin.
- Only if that fails would they move Martin to RT.

Too many options at T to spend real money for a backup T.

I'd definitely rather plan on moving Tyler to LT than spending real money for a backup T. Today, he probably is our best LT after Tyron, and playing him pays dividends into the future.

 

[CowboyRoy]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

This is the big question. Will the Oline be good enough. Sadly, I think it all hinges on the health of Tyron Smith, which is scary.

 

[JayFord]

yes

they won it last year by commiting penalty after penalty and subpar run blocking and good enough pass blocking

theyve gotten better

 

[quickccc]

What do the NFC East foes offer that would give us a challenge ?

- Commandoes: Wentz ?... A returning defense that struggled vs Cowboys in 2nd game ? Wentz is gun shy and brittle both physically and mentally
Pop him, rattle him and he will revert to his

- Eagles added AJ Brown a pro bowler - but what about the QB tossing it to them ?
Methinks Eagles awaiting next year's pics for a legit QB prospect.

- Giants didn't offer Daniel Jones 5th option, not committed to him, don't believe in him, no other options
coach issues after issues; what about the Defense ? Is Barkley the same ?

 

[Havic]

The OL will be good enough this year, not so sure after that.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

Who the crap cares about being chumps, i mean champs, of the NFCE? Low hanging fruit...low expectations. Dallas should be aiming to be better as an NFC favorite and and not king of the midgets. Stocking their team to compete against the Rams, 49ers, Packers, etc.

 

[Ranched]

This is the big question. Will the Oline be good enough. Sadly, I think it all hinges on the health of Tyron Smith, which is scary.

They tried to adjust by running the ball more. The running game proved to be even worse. The OL couldn’t open holes & Zeke finished the second half of the season w/a negative EPA & negative success rate (his carries hurt the team more than helped the team).

Every offensive issue stemmed from the OL & injuries & constant voluntary player rotations didn’t help. If the OL isn't going to excel, then neither will our Cowboys.

 

[Truck]

Papsmear got trashed on twitter last night. Hes prolly in hiding

Who’s this person? What’s his Twitter handle? I need to see this

 

[DandyDon52]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

there is no way to know, it is just wait and see how they do.
I think one thing many just ignore is the coaching, schemes, and what the offensive game plan is . Pass or run heavy or balanced>?

One thing I see all the time, and not just with cowboys, is the blocking schemes are ********, and they think if they are running to the right,
they dont have to block the guys on the right ! So invaribly those guys come free and get to rb before he gets past los.

I used to watch collins, and he would not block his guy at all, and would go out to block the lb, and of course his guy would then tackle rb in backfield!
but I think he was doing what he was told to do, thats where coaching has an effect on how the line plays.

Pass blking is also dependent on the the guys are told to block, and who to block etc.
Do you give them help? with te or rb, 2 te's etc, you have to know when to give help.

 

[DandyDon52]

Who’s this person? What’s his Twitter handle? I need to see this

I think they are referring to pappydog, that is his name here, not sure if that is who or what his Twitter handle is.

 

[Motorola]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

The Oline play is not just about how well it play against the division rivals, but all of the opponents on the 2022 schedule.
IMO - the defense will have to carry the team through the first 1/3 to 1/2 of the season until the Oline jells as a competitive unit. Expecting the 34 turnovers from 2021 to be matched might be unrealistic; but forcing 3 & outs- short drives that force the opposing teams to punt inside of their 35 will help the offense early on to score points by putting together relatively short drives to score.

 

[ICP]

Sorry but I honestly don't see how it does. If Dak can pull a Romo and run for his life and make things happen then maybe. What Dallas does have going for them is the fact that the rest of the NFCE while improved, should be lesser teams than the Cowboys.

 

[Them]

Most of Daks sacks were on him. He has extremely poor pocket awareness.

..Sometimes maybe...but most of the time he was hard pressed to find a pocket...the O line played terrible last Season...I repeat terrible, and they couldn't run block well either!

 

[LittleD]

If's & But's... The answer is NO!!! The next two years will be gap years while the FO off loads old players and their overpaid contracts and season up the younguns to take over. McCarthy will be history and
we start over for the next 25 years.

 

[noshame]

As soon as Quinn takes over and the new OL coach arrives, we'll see improvement and salvage the season.

Dak is a 5th round draft pick at best and will sink or swim this year.

 

[baltcowboy]

While many were/still are quick to point the finger at Dak & Zeke last year, those two cannot do what they do best without protection & help from their O-Line. One cannot be successful without the other. The OL isn’t the powerful front it used to be in years past. It feels like ever since Travis Frederick retired, it's become shambles.

If they potentially have to play other teams in the NFC East without Collins, Williams, & Tyron Smith, Dak & his offense will be hard-pressed to find success. There are great Receivers/RB's available. But if the QB doesn’t have enough time to make a throw & the backs can’t even make it out of the backfield, Dallas is going to seriously struggle in a division they swept in 2021.

Deja Vu Tony Romo

The offensive line will be good if Martin and Tyron play most of the season. The line is rebuilding on the fly. Steele and Badcaz need to step up while the rookies learn on the job. This could be a disaster but at the end of the season we could have clarity. San Francisco whipped us on both lines. It was a wake up call.

 

[JBS]

Even with the injury,he could still throw the ball away instead of taking a sack 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

OL last season was bad. This take is bad too.

 

[baltcowboy]

• LG
  • Tyler Smith could play tomorrow and would already be a better LG than Connor Williams & I was not a CW hater.
  • The difference in physical talent is drastic.

• RT
  • When I review game footage of the OL from last season, I always come away thinking that La'el was really over-rated.
    • He has very good physical talent, but he is a very dumb player and has a bit of a lazy streak.
  • Steele is not quite a physically talented, but he has become a better overall player at RT.

• OC
  • The power of Tyler Smith at LG will help Biadasz.
  • Farniok has a legit chance to win the OC job.
    • He looked much better then expected for late round rookie OL.
    • He appeared to be ahead of McGovern on the OC depth chart.

• RG
  • Zack Martin...

• LT
  • The biggest question mark on offense appears to be the backup LT.
  • The good news is that Tyron did not have any back/neck issues last season and he played 100% of snaps in the playoff game.
    • He finally had the back/neck surgery (in 2020) that was recommended by Doctors about 4 or 5 years ago.
  • The bad news is that he is a significant injury risk until proven otherwise.

• Swing Tackle
  • I don't think that they will move Tyler Smith to LT unless all other options fail.
  • Worst case, they move Steele to LT and Martin to RT with Farniok or McGovern at RG.
  • Waldo:
    • Seems doubtful to play as a rookie. He has very good athletic ability but was very raw in college.
    • Having said that, Steele played as a rookie and he didn't really look NFL ready in college.
  • Josh Ball:
    • I'm not going to put any stock into 1 comment by Broaddus that Josh Ball "looks small'.
      • Broaddus is wrong more often than not.
    • Having said that, I'm not certain what to make of Ball practicing primarily at RT (Based on S.Jones comments and OTA reports).
      • Glass Half Full: He always played LT in college and would need more work at RT if he is going to be the Swing Tackle.
      • Glass Half Empty: Somebody else is ahead of him as the backup LT.
  • Aviante Collins:
    • 2021 practice squad player.
    • Started 1 game with the Vikings in 2019.
    • Had the 3rd fastest forty of any OL, ever and had 34 bench reps.
  • Amon Simon: Small college LT (A&M Commerce)
  • James Empey: Listed at OC. Played LT and OC in college.
  • Free Agent or Trade:
    • Teams that drafted an OT early in the draft, often wait to see how that player looks in training camp.
      • If the draft pick wins the job, then the veteran is often too expensive to keep and ends up in the final cuts.
      • The Bears got 15 starts from Jason Peters (now 40 years old) in 2021.
    • Some veteran free agents will decline offers to become a Swing Tackle until training camp because they're looking for an offer to compete for a starting spot.

XWalker, isn’t the offensive line more of a unit then individual talents? The first 7 games the offensive line played well because there seemed to be chemistry between Tyron, Williams, Badacz, Martin, and Steele. It started with the Chargers game. The offensive line was poetry in motion. They had some early hiccups against the Eagles but dominated that game after the first quarter. The line Destroyed the Giants and Carolina. Injuries to Tyron was the down fall. I think the injury to Tyron hurt Williams and Badacz the most. Then moving Steele to tackle after he developed chemistry with Martin crushed us. I think the coaches lost faith in La’el. He just never got back in the swing of things. The whole line was bad against the 49ers but Bosa whipped his azzz before the concussion.