Is Dak Clutch

[PAPPYDOG]

Aikman was a product of the team around him. Dak could've won with that team

Aikman was stud a true blue 3 time SB winning QB.
Dak is nothing, not even a stain on Aikman's cleats, and no way we win any SB with the '90s team as Dak would have found numerous ways to lose.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Aikman was stud a true blue 3 time SB winning QB.
Dak is nothing, not even a stain on Aikman's cleats, and no way we win any SB with the '90s team as Dak would have found numerous ways to lose.

Dak fans are not Cowboys fans.

 

[CouchCoach]

He hasn't gotten far enough yet to be known as clutch or not. He needs to get deeper into the playoffs where clutch becomes defined.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak fans are not Cowboys fans.

We're wasting our time with these Dak-bots as they belong to Dak and could care less about the Cowboy's quest for glory.
Anyway, at least there is laughter in their posts, and for this, I thank them sincerely.

 

[khiladi]

Apparently the point seems difficult to grasp.

1. Dak being “clutch” was a mainstream narrative his first 3 years, even when he was blowing chunks in 2017. We were telling you these stats or “50 minutes of video” are fools gold as teams were stacking the box to stop the OL and RG, and still couldn’t get pressure. All he had to do was “manage the game”.

2. The stats themselves when they point to Dak having to “pass the ball”, because the team is in a 2 score, meaning a minimum of 8 pts, to win, his stats are and have always been BELOW LEAGUE AVERAGE.

This trait of his failing has become more evident as the OL and RG is no longer consistently elite. When the coaches told him to “let it rip”, he was a disaster. His game is built on being conservative, unless he is in a situation of soft zones and “street ball”, QB play and he had to let it rip irrespective.

 

[khiladi]

This sounds like once teams got a hold of analytics Dak was exposed.

Not really. Defenses could do nothing against our OL and RG, as Zeke was leading the league in rushing attempts as a work-house wearing out defenses. So defenses were forced to play almost exclusively man and blitz late to try and generate pressure, which they couldn’t.

As the OL and RG deteriorated and Dak got more responsibility with Moore to throw the ball, it became obvious, as Dallas didn’t even want a game in 2019 when down at the half.

But you I believe are right in a way, as I also used to say defenses played way too much man anyways against this team, including 3rd and longs.

 

[khiladi]

The difference was that no one doubted that with that team Aikman could get it done with his arm. Dak has proven that when it’s crunch time he can’t.

Aikman had a better completion percentage than Elway or Marino. He held QB play-off records that lasted a long time until the modern rule changes. This offense back then was a 2 WR based offense, unlike today with basically the college rules in place. Nobody could run the precision-based timing offense that Norv had Aikman run better than Aikman.

These Dak fanboys are hilarious. They would disrespect the great Aikman to prop this mediocrity up.

Dak wouldn’t last 3 plays in 1993, especially considering he would have to drop back under center and run the 7 step drop a lot.

Aikman was better than Romo and it wasn’t close.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak has had clutch moments in the playoffs only to watch the defense cave on the final drive. Dak has brought us back several times late in playoff games. The Packers game comes to mind.

Daks defense caves but romos never did.

 

[khiladi]

I guess @khiladi didn't like the rebuttals he was getting in the thread already created about this Dak niche so he created this thread so he could just ignore them and grandstand.

It is obvious that the intent here is not discovering the truth but instead to proselytize.

Rebuttals? I started a new thread so it would get lost in the mix and to point out Khiladi has been saying for years now the “Dak is clutch” is a myth. We’ve known for years he’s “won in the 4th”.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Aikman had a better completion percentage than Elway or Marino. He held QB play-off records that lasted a long time until the modern rule changes. This offense back then was a 2 WR based offense, unlike today with basically the college rules in place. Nobody could run the precision-based timing offense that Norv had Aikman run better than Aikman.

These Dak fanboys are hilarious. They would disrespect the great Aikman to prop this mediocrity up.

Dak wouldn’t last 3 plays in 1993, especially considering he would have to drop back under center and run the 7 step drop a lot.

Aikman was better than Romo and it wasn’t close.

Aikman was strong and smart....he took an absolute beating.
He wasnt afraid to chew some ax.
Thats a real leader.

 

[khiladi]

Aikman was strong and smart....he took an absolute beating.
He wasnt afraid to chew some ax.
Thats a real leader.

Aikman threw in an era when breaking 300 yards passing was an elite passing performance. The NFL had scrubs like Dak doing it often. If Aikman was in this era, he launched for 400 yards multiple times in a season.

Aikman didn’t care one bit for stats. He left many TDs off his stat card for Emmitt.

 

[America's Cowboy]

But...but...but Dak is not clutch!!!

 

[khiladi]

The difference was that no one doubted that with that team Aikman could get it done with his arm. Dak has proven that when it’s crunch time he can’t.

Please don’t entertain this argument anymore of comparing the great Aikman to this mediocrity we have in Dallas right now in this pass-happy era, like they are even in same galaxy, when Aikman is on one side of the border of the universe and Dak is on the other side. It’s completely disrespectful to Aikman and any real Cowboys fan, especially those that watched that era.

 

[America's Cowboy]

What did Aikman do during '89 - '91 and '97 - '00 ???

And why not???



But...but...but Troy was clutch and could carry a team...

 

[5Stars]

But...but...but Dak is not clutch!!!

Nice...he looked real good against that scrub of a team. A team that should not have even been in the playoffs.

I can't remember what he looked like against the other playoff team? Did he win for his team?

 

[john van brocklin]

As I stated multiple times prior, because folks like to re-package old claims in a new form, Dak as considered clutch his first 3 years. In reality, it was a team built on game management for the QB, while the OL and RG wore down opposing defenses to the point Dak, in the 4th quarter could sit back in the pocket all day and make easy throws.
Ive posted this article from 2020 multiple times as evidence that Dak in reality is not a QB that performs in the clutch the more and more responsibilities were placed on his shoulders as a PASSING QB and this team couldn’t rely on an all-pro blocking and RG to keep the focus of the defense.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/dak-prescott-clutch-4th-quarter-jerry-jones-cowboys-defense

Within 2 years, this claim Dak was “clutch” was starting to get exposed in the press as a myth. Also, his struggles against zone began to show as teams no longer forced into situations of playing so much man coverage as a counter to the RG.

First of all, the article clearly states the baseline that articles were using to define clutch as 4th quarter comeback were basically bogus.



The article then proceeds to refute this claim of clutch be saying:



Dak was not even in LEAGUE AVERAGE category when the team needed to rely on his arm to push the ball downfield. What these stats indicate also, is the fact despite having the best OL in the league, his sack rate went up to higher than the league average meaning he was holding onto the ball too long. The fact his INT was lower then the league average pointed out he doesn’t take risks and goes into a complete shell.

The experimentation process this year of “just letting it rip” let to some of the most bone-headed INTs regularly you’d ever witness. As this article points out,



Now look at this stat:

So let’s stop pretending Romo and Dak were playing in the same situation of the same offense. As a bunch of us “haters” pointed out. Dak can’t throw from a 3-5–7 drop-back. consistently, so they have to limit the playbook. And while the 7 step drop-back has gradually faded out in the modern NFL, Dak’s usage was still way below league level and this not taking into account the 3-5 drop-back. What Dallas does with Dak is they do drop-back is from shotgun, not under Center, which Dak is horrible out. This in itself is problematic because opposing defenses know Dallas is limited when they see Dak under Center.

Dak is a very good, not great qb.
I think that's where most fans fall.
The 2 extremes either way get all the attention here.

 

[khiladi]

Every throw of Aikman here is basically a drop back from under Center and hitting Irvin in the hands in stride and intermediate to deep routes, flying off his hands like a rocket with plenty of 2 WR sets, meaning not a lot of disguise and confusion to try and get guys open. Drop backs like, you will never see Dak throw a single ball like that.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Nice...he looked real good against that scrub of a team. A team that should not have even been in the playoffs.

I can't remember what he looked like against the other playoff team? Did he win for his team?

Zeke won him the Hawks game.
In Packer's loss(2016), he scored only 13 points in the 1st 3 Q of the game.
In the Ram's loss, he managed 15 points in the 1st 3 Q of the game.
Niners well do we really need to get into that subject?
And a win vs the I want to go on vacation Bucs.

A playoff stud........

 

[America's Cowboy]

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Every throw of Aikman here is basically a drop back from under Center and hitting Irvin in the hands in stride and intermediate to deep routes, flying off his hands like a rocket. Drop backs like, you will never see Dak throw a single ball like that.

I miss watching those guys.