Is Dak Unsignable?

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Even if Dak isn’t extended he’s going to be our starting QB this season. If you think otherwise you’re kidding yourself.
Reading comprehension? Where did I say I thought Lance would be the starting QB? I have been a Lance doubter from the start. The part you don't like is Dak moving on because the FO is tired of him crapping himself when the lights are bright. They might be saying nice things but if they really wanted him signed he would be.
 

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Reading comprehension? Where did I say I thought Lance would be the starting QB? I have been a Lance doubter from the start. The part you don't like is Dak moving on because the FO is tired of him crapping himself when the lights are bright. They might be saying nice things but if they really wanted him signed he would be.
Very true, and if Dak really wants to stay a Cowboy and if JJ really wants him too, how come Dak has not accepted the offer made? IMO, it is either greed or he just wants away from Dallas like his bro Tad wants him too.
 

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Fisher said the other night on his podcast (I think Tuesday night) that the Jones wanted Lance to win the job. Unfortunately Fisher added that looked looked highly unlikely because Lance hasn't been cutting it. Fisher said Jerry's rationale is simply that he wants to have the ability to walk away from both MM and Dak at the end of the season if he doesn't like how the season goes. Take this FWIW but this will highly likely drag on.

PS: As has been stated before the podcasts can be a painful listen.
Fish is painful to listen to so I’ll skip the podcast. But if what he is reporting is correct, it doesn’t make sense. Why is the decision contingent on Lance playing well if Jerry moves on from Dak and MM? We can easily find someone of Lance’s talents in FA. There will be a Sam Darnold caliber QB that gets cut or released. If Jerry has lost faith in Dak and MM then cut the chord. I don’t see how Lance plays a role in this especially since Lance isn’t signed for next year.
 

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Why is the decision contingent on Lance playing well
It's not contingent on Lance playing well. That was the simply desired outcome. It appears at this point Lance has a problem reading defenses and seeing the field. The point is I personally don't think the QB to lead this team any further than first round playoff exits is currently on the roster and the FO may not either.
 

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Fish is painful to listen to so I’ll skip the podcast. But if what he is reporting is correct, it doesn’t make sense. Why is the decision contingent on Lance playing well if Jerry moves on from Dak and MM? We can easily find someone of Lance’s talents in FA. There will be a Sam Darnold caliber QB that gets cut or released. If Jerry has lost faith in Dak and MM then cut the chord. I don’t see how Lance plays a role in this especially since Lance isn’t signed for next year.
The only role that Lance is here for is to compete for a roster spot, nothing else. Dak is the QB this coming season.

As far as MM, that is not his priority right now, it is what to do with Dak. He can't cut the cord in the middle of a season.
 

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Reading comprehension? Where did I say I thought Lance would be the starting QB? I have been a Lance doubter from the start. The part you don't like is Dak moving on because the FO is tired of him crapping himself when the lights are bright. They might be saying nice things but if they really wanted him signed he would be.
I never said you did, but if you’re thinking that just because Dak hasn’t been extended, that will open the door for Lance to be the starter this season, you’ll be wrong. Jerry said the Cowboys are all in for this season and they will play their best players. If Dak moves on, it won’t be because of what’s happened in the playoffs. It will be because he’s asking for too much money and they can’t afford to pay him along with CeeDee and Parsons. You can bet that Dak has been given a very good offer and it will be up to him whether he wants to accept it or not. If they didn’t want him because of what’s happened in the playoffs they wouldn’t be making offers to him. Stephen made it clear the other day they want to re-sign him, but it’s up to him. Don Meredith got tired of the fan abuse in Dallas and retired because of it. He admitted that in an interview. Dak may be tired of it too, and wants a change of scenery.
 

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Several good points. Yes, Dak will be our starter this year.

The same conversations were here 4 years ago when Jerry waited until the season started to sign Dak to that $160 million contract. So until we are past opening weekend will I believe that we aren't going to sign Dak.

Can we sign all 3 of Dak, Ceedee and Micah. Sure we can, just depends on how the contracts are structured. They will all have void years attached to them.

Is Dak worth $60 million a year? It doesn't matter because it is just the market for QBs. If we don't sign him then as a free agent going into 2025 will get him over $60 million a year average. And those that don't believe he is worth it are going to be crazy when he signs for close to $70 million next year.

Jerry does everything his way which is usually idd.
 

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Dak was just quoted saying he wants to push the envelope on this contract for the QB brotherhood. That's my QB baby :laugh:
 

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No, Dak isn't unsignable. The Cowboys could extend him any time they want to.

Clearly they hesitate to do that and for good reason.
The Cowboys are offering him contracts they know he won't accept...Mid 50's probably, similar to Lawrence/Burrow but they know France wants $60+. I think Cowboys ownership believes the juice isn't worth that squeeze anymore. They are right in this case.
 

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The Cowboys are offering him contracts they know he won't accept...Mid 50's probably, similar to Lawrence/Burrow but they know France wants $60+. I think Cowboys ownership believes the juice isn't worth that squeeze anymore. They are right in this case.
Why in the hell would they offer him 55 million thinking he won’t sign it lol? Pure stupidity. Just don’t sign him why be stupid about it to?
 

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He is unsignable to me, just ride it out and see if he gets it done in the playoffs.

Its a win win for dak if he doesn't sign. lose in the playoff and you get to pick a new destination... win and you will be paid handsomely.
Remember he doesn't even have to be great, look at Love
 

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If I know the Cowboys they’ll sign Dak to whatever he wants and watch as the team suffers with no hope of winning a title.

Its what they do.
If they sign him it will be a large number, but if they were going to sign him to whatever he wants he would already be signed
 

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It's hard to see how the Cowboys can come up with a Contract to sign Dak due to him already having a $40 Million dead Cap hit next year.
They would have to account that money to be spread over the life of the contract in addition to any Bonus his new contract would require.
They would have to sign him to a 6 year contract to make the numbers work. But, if we crap the bed again this year or next, they team will be unable to move on from Dak or the cap hit will dwarf the $40 million.
If we don't progress further in the playoffs this year, then the already frustrated fanbase will be more disenchanted and have more animosity toward Dak.
I think that plays into Jerry's consternation about signing Dak to a long-term deal. He's seen Dak not succeed on his previous big deal and he has to be hesitant to give him $200+ million dollars for mediocrity.
If he gets a contract for 60 million per year, that 40 million means nothing and is included in the new deal; it’s not in addition to the new deal. That’s how extensions work….if done now while he’s under contract.
The Cowboys are paying him around 55 million this year, yet they have money they aren’t even spending at this time. Do you think it would be that hard to come up with another 5 million next year for a 60 million salary? Zach Martin’s anticipated retirement would in itself create a huge windfall, not to mention the big increase expected in next season’s cap.

Just like every pass rusher, QB, and WR signing deals never seen before, the money is there. If a fan wants a new QB, that’s fine, but this has very little to do with Dak’s cap hit now or in the future. His salary will not prohibit us from having a competitive team that can make a SB run. Imagine Dak leaves in free agency, the Joneses are still going to do business as usual. Do you actually think they will suddenly sign big time free agents? They may pony up for a veteran QB, but they will continue to build through the draft and fill in low impact depth in free agency. And when was the last time we lost a star Cowboys player to free agency That they weren’t willing to lose? We keep the stars until we cannot count on them or they are near retirement and we want a compensatory pick. We let the marginal starters or those we already have depth behind walk.
 

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If Dak were willing to do a Mahomes and take like a 10 year deal, it could all work.

The fundamental issue is that Dak wants a short deal. That makes it really hard to move money around while also swallowing that $40m.
 

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Dak’s agent is smart enough not to deal with Jerry Jones. Sans an offer of between $60 and $65 million per year Jerry will not reel in Dak Prescott. The Cowboys starting quarterback in 2025 will be Tannehill or Wentz. Because Jerry Jones is stupid.
 

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Its a win win for dak if he doesn't sign. lose in the playoff and you get to pick a new destination... win and you will be paid handsomely.
Making the playoffs at all will likely be a tall order for this team.
 

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People are WAY too emotionally involved in this issue. At some point you can’t win with a marginal qb eating up a huge portion of your salary cap. It is what it is.

Dak is a me first player. He has done zero as the Cowboys QB. If he sticks around that’s fine. But if he doesn’t I’m ok with that too.

If it takes $60m per year to keep him, ship him out and move on. That’s the smart long term play.
 
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