Is Dak Unsignable?

[zrinkill]

God I hope so

 

[HonoluluCowboy]

Dak’s agent is smart enough not to deal with Jerry Jones. Sans an offer of between $60 and $65 million per year Jerry will not reel in Dak Prescott. The Cowboys starting quarterback in 2025 will be Tannehill or Wentz. Because Jerry Jones is stupid.

Yet the end result be the same, saving 30$m per year .

 

[DandyDon52]

Fisher is dumb if he thought Lace was expected to win the job 2 weeks into training camp.

fish doesnt think anything, he just reports and sometimes gives his opinion.
I dont think he has said the jones boys wanted trey to win the job. Trey was expected to win the #2 job, from rush but so far
has not done that either.
In fact fish says the cowboys are not pleased with what they are seeing with trey, but still hoping maybe he does better in the PS games.

Fish has said that it was never a competition for trey to beat out dak for the starter role. He said no way that would happen.
And If dak gets hurt, right now it would still be rush taking over.

 

[Flamma]

This isn’t exactly correct. It’s a little bit complicated, but it’s only 40m$ if he doesn’t sign. It shows up as 40 on cap sites because he’s not currently signed, so that’s the hypothetical. If he’s signs, it won’t be a 40m$ cap hit.

How it works is he has multiple years of dead cap hits in the future, and if he leaves the roster before they trigger, it will all escalate to the moment he leaves, ergo all 40m$ right when he becomes a free agent. But if he plays through those dead cap years, they stay spread out. So if he signs, his dead cap next year from the previous contract is only 26m$, and the rest is in future years

I think what he meant was, it's an extra 40M that has to be accounted for throughout the life of the next contract.

 

[plymkr]

It's not contingent on Lance playing well. That was the simply desired outcome. It appears at this point Lance has a problem reading defenses and seeing the field. The point is I personally don't think the QB to lead this team any further than first round playoff exits is currently on the roster and the FO may not either.

I agree. If Lance can’t read defenses then his physical ability is useless. I also agree we don’t have a QB on this roster that can get us out of the WC round unless we have a lights out defense. I misunderstood the point. I misunderstood the idea that Lance had to play well for Jerry to move on and I didn’t see how that would matter. It would be a desirable outcome but not the deciding factor.

 

[Flamma]

Several good points. Yes, Dak will be our starter this year.

The same conversations were here 4 years ago when Jerry waited until the season started to sign Dak to that $160 million contract. So until we are past opening weekend will I believe that we aren't going to sign Dak.

Can we sign all 3 of Dak, Ceedee and Micah. Sure we can, just depends on how the contracts are structured. They will all have void years attached to them.

Is Dak worth $60 million a year? It doesn't matter because it is just the market for QBs. If we don't sign him then as a free agent going into 2025 will get him over $60 million a year average. And those that don't believe he is worth it are going to be crazy when he signs for close to $70 million next year.

Jerry does everything his way which is usually idd.

I couldn't remember when Dak signed his last contract, so I tried to look it up. It wasn't official, but it was being reported that they came to an agreement on March 8th of 2021. That's long before the season starts. They could wait until March 8th of next year.

 

[Flamma]

fish doesnt think anything, he just reports and sometimes gives his opinion.
I dont think he has said the jones boys wanted trey to win the job. Trey was expected to win the #2 job, from rush but so far
has not done that either.
In fact fish says the cowboys are not pleased with what they are seeing with trey, but still hoping maybe he does better in the PS games.

Fish has said that it was never a competition for trey to beat out dak for the starter role. He said no way that would happen.
And If dak gets hurt, right now it would still be rush taking over.

This is pretty much what Fish has been saying.

 

[5Stars]

God I hope so

He showed his true motives today...it's not about football.

 

[Rockport]

It's hard to see how the Cowboys can come up with a Contract to sign Dak due to him already having a $40 Million dead Cap hit next year.
They would have to account that money to be spread over the life of the contract in addition to any Bonus his new contract would require.
They would have to sign him to a 6 year contract to make the numbers work. But, if we crap the bed again this year or next, they team will be unable to move on from Dak or the cap hit will dwarf the $40 million.
If we don't progress further in the playoffs this year, then the already frustrated fanbase will be more disenchanted and have more animosity toward Dak.
I think that plays into Jerry's consternation about signing Dak to a long-term deal. He's seen Dak not succeed on his previous big deal and he has to be hesitant to give him $200+ million dollars for mediocrity.

They can sign both Dak and Cee Dee and still be able to sign Micah next year. It’s all in the contract details. There’s some give and take that needs to happen from both sides. They’re currently going through that as we speak.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Save face... be able to say they made him a good offer. Don't you know this FO by now??

I do….which is why I’m confused you think this front office who drags their feet on signing their own guys all of a sudden don’t want Dak lol. You give this front office of idiots too much credit.

 

[stiletto]

I do….which is why I’m confused you think this front office who drags their feet on signing their own guys all of a sudden don’t want Dak lol. You give this front office of idiots too much credit.

You are just in denial. The Cowboys made a good faith (low ball) offer. It's like bidding on something on E-bay. "IF they accept this offer, I'll take it but I know they won't"...What don't you get about that?? You'll take the item for x price even if it will like 99.9% not happen. Seems simple to me...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You are just in denial. The Cowboys made a good faith (low ball) offer. It's like bidding on something on E-bay. "IF they accept this offer, I'll take it but I know they won't"...What don't you get about that?? You'll take the item for x price even if it will like 99.9% not happen. Seems simple to me...

You’re the one in denial…55 million per year if I’m not mistaken would make Dak the highest paid player in the league? Why not offer him 45 or 50 million? Why offer him something he may accept? The logic is dumb.

 

[stiletto]

You’re the one in denial…55 million per year if I’m not mistaken would make Dak the highest paid player in the league? Why not offer him 45 or 50 million? Why offer him something he may accept? The logic is dumb.

Maybe they did, who knows? Point is, they didn't make him any kind of offer that the next bidder wouldn't easily beat. I have no idea of the #. I am just saying it wasn't anything spectacular. Just enough to say they made a realistic offer. No idea on the #. You are getting too far into the minutia...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Maybe they did, who knows? Point is, they didn't make him any kind of offer that the next bidder wouldn't easily beat. I have no idea of the #. I am just saying it wasn't anything spectacular. Just enough to say they made a realistic offer. No idea on the #. You are getting too far into the minutia...

It was reported it was 55 million…..

 

[visionary]

If I know the Cowboys they’ll sign Dak to whatever he wants and watch as the team suffers with no hope of winning a title.

Its what they do.

Yep

 

[KingCorcoran]

Yet the end result be the same, saving 30$m per year .

$50 million plus per year.

 

[Creeper]

It's hard to see how the Cowboys can come up with a Contract to sign Dak due to him already having a $40 Million dead Cap hit next year.
They would have to account that money to be spread over the life of the contract in addition to any Bonus his new contract would require.
They would have to sign him to a 6 year contract to make the numbers work. But, if we crap the bed again this year or next, they team will be unable to move on from Dak or the cap hit will dwarf the $40 million.
If we don't progress further in the playoffs this year, then the already frustrated fanbase will be more disenchanted and have more animosity toward Dak.
I think that plays into Jerry's consternation about signing Dak to a long-term deal. He's seen Dak not succeed on his previous big deal and he has to be hesitant to give him $200+ million dollars for mediocrity.

The Cowboys took a really bad contract they signed with take and managed to make it worse.

Daks first deal was so bad.

-$40 million per year was more than Dak was worth especially for a 4 year deal. Had it been 6 years at $40 million it would have been better for Dallas and they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now.
- 4 years did not allow the Cowboys to spread the money out enough to get CAP relief long enough and forces the Cowboys to have to go through this current new contract negotiation after only 3 years.
- The no trade clause has Dallas behind a barrel now.
- the no franchise tag clause took away the only leverage the Cowboys had to negotiate the next deal
- The 2 voidable year turned out to be just as damaging because pushing $40 million into the first voidable year gives Dak even more leverage on the next deal. `

Nothing about Dak's current contract benefitted the Cowboys and now it appears Dak is going to do it again.