Is It All "Wade Phillips' Fault"?

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(Repost) Who did Wade want coaching the offensive line? Mike Solari

Wade didn't give Jason Garrett $ 3 million dollars to run the entire offense and make him "associate head coach", "in waiting". What other coach in the NFL has his replacement on staff, making more money than he does? Your head coach deserves to pick his staff if he is going to take all the heat for the failure of the team.

A defensive coach really depends on a capable offensive coordinator, just like an offensive coach needs a very good defensive coordinator. Wade was depending on Jason Garrett this year to take care of the offense while he coached the defense and special teams up. When Phillips took over the defense, the results speak for themselves. When Phillips took control of the special teams, they were much better. He couldn't help that McBriar was hurt.



It is clear as day. Tony Sporano was more valuable than many of the fans knew. He was a good offensive line coach, and he brought some fire to the team. He knew the players on the offensive line. He knew their strengths and weaknesses, and he probably made some good in-game adjustments as far as the protections go. He coordinated the running game, and having a Parcells disciple on the sidelines probably made Garrett a better coach. I have read where Sporano helped Garrett see the "big picture" on offense. The Garrett I saw last year, wasn't the same Garrett I saw this year.

Garrett must have channeled his inner Tony Sporano before the Packers and second Commanders game, because the game plans were excellent.

Neverthelss, Phillips had a coordinator that couldn't manage critical games on offense, and it cost the team dearly. That is basic, fundamental coaching. You know what, when your defense has the game in hand, like the second Giants game (14-3), don't drop Romo back into the endzone and risk a sack or fumble after the protection has been very leaky. This is just one example of many. Garrett's lack of offensive game management at Pittsburgh was ridiculous. Watching Tony Romo get pounded 17 times, at Arizona, while constantly holding the ball and looking for the big play was ridiculous. Dallas couldn't block four guys. Marion Barber 8 carries; Felix Jones 0. How can anyone defend this stuff? Forget the problems with the philosophy and structure of the offense. He couldn't manage games when they needed to not be lost. The offense was one big turnover machine.

Did Wade Phillips have the power to hold Garrett accountable for the offense's performance? How can anyone truely know? I do know that no defensive head coach, in their right mind, would just stand there and allow Jason Garrett to let Tony Romo throw floating picks on deep fade routes twice while in your own territory, especially when you are in a tough, defensive game and in horrible weather.

If Phillips did have total power over Garrett, and he didn't act, it's on him. However, Jason Garrett was the $ 3 million dollar "Red Headed Genius", and the "next head coach". $ 3 million dollars tells me that Garrett had enormous power and total control of the offense. He was "associate head coach". The organization put way too much faith in him. He still needed some help.

Who did Jerry turn to before he picked Felix? Who was he consulting in the war room? What other offensive coordinator is even in the war room? Again, Wade wants Solari; Garrett gets his guy.

That move alone tells me Phillips had some limitations in his power over Jason Garrett. When Terence Newman challenged Wade Phillips to take control of the football team and to hold players and coaches accountable, I think he was referring to the offensive side of the ball, in particular. His comments came after the Pittsburgh game, another offensive, turnover, mismanaged disaster on that side of the ball. Again, the question should be this. What kind of power did Phillips have over Garrett to begin with? This is a question that critics of Phillips don't want to address.

Either, Jerry needs to give Phillips an extention and let him hire Mike Solari and a guy like Al Saunders, or he needs to let Phillips go. Taking Phillips to the "woodshed" and defending Garrett in public is hypocritical, imo. Your offense failed you, not your defense. If you are going to hold the head coach accountable and give him heat, let him pick his own offensive coordinator. What other franchise did this to their head coach? It's called dysfunction. You reap what you sow.

It's pretty obvious that Phillips doesn't need Pacman on this team. No matter who coaches this team, you better get Terrell Owens the heck out of here, because the damage has been done. Good luck winning anything with that selfish player. His behavior is eratic. He throws daggers and roses, and the daggers are killing this team.

Hat tip to Rain Man for his input in regards to Jerry Jones' role.
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41gy#;2551373 said:
(Repost) Who did Wade want coaching the offensive line? Mike Solari

Wade didn't give Jason Garrett $ 3 million dollars to run the entire offense and make him "associate head coach", "in waiting". What other coach in the NFL has his replacement on staff, making more money than he does? Your head coach deserves to pick his staff if he is going to take all the heat for the failure of the team.
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You realize Dungy took over the Indy job with the knowledge he had to keep the current O staff in place; but do not let facts get in the way of defending a bad coach
 

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It was Wade's call on Camp Cupcake was it not? I know it was Jerry's call on the Hard Knocks deal, but I'm pretty sure it was Wade's call on soft camp, and soft practices.
 

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I'm sure it will not matter, but the Seahawks weren't exactly a great blocking team this year.

BTW...I wanted Mike Solari here over Houck.
 

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Does this mean Wade overcompensates next year and lets Stewart run the D while he helps Garrett with the O?

Oh man..........
 

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I believe a not so wise man once said that the blame starts with him.
 

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everybody wants to put the blame on one thing and one thing only. but that's not the case here. we have a ton of problems from the owner to coaching to the players.
 

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Kangaroo;2551392 said:
You realize Dungy took over the Indy job with the knowledge he had to keep the current O staff in place; but do not let facts get in the way of defending a bad coach


Did Dungy's offensive coordinator make more money than him?

Did Dungy's offensive coordinator have more than 1 year's experience running an offense?

Don't let "the facts" get in the way of your agenda.
 

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RoadRunner;2551393 said:
It was Wade's call on Camp Cupcake was it not? I know it was Jerry's call on the Hard Knocks deal, but I'm pretty sure it was Wade's call on soft camp, and soft practices.


Another soft ball. Pop!

Dallas was 3-0 coming out of camp "cupcake". They started 5-0 last year after "camp cupcake". The Cowboys came out of the gate ready to play. That "theory" doesn't hold water. After the Green Bay game, experts were calling the Cowboys the "best team in the league". Dallas showed they could play smash mouth football when the Packers had all their players on defense.

Then, the Washington game came. Marion Barber 8 carries. Felix Jones 0. That wasn't Marion Barber and Felix Jones running all over the Packers was it? Cory Proctor didn't help. Crickett was out, too. I'll give you that one, but you can't give up on the run. Felix Jones never touches the ball in a 2 point loss. Unexcuseable.

Terrell Owens gets the ball thrown to him 17 or 18 times and complains about not getting "enough opportunities". The defense didn't have a good game, but the offense turned into Tecmo Bowl.
 

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Jon88;2551409 said:
No, it's not all his fault. But a lot of it is.


I'll give you this. Phillips shoudn't have turned the defense over to Brian Stewart. The defense is Phillips life-blood as head coach. It was a bad mistake.
 

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It is mostly Wades fault. He is an enabler. Go back to the playoff loss to the Giants, he sat there in the post game press conf. and said "the best team didn't win." That team went 13-3 last year. They all, including Wade had a sense of entitlement to this season. They thought they deserved to be in the playoffs before they ever stepped on the field.

Wade said something about a superbowl ring before training camp, Brady James after the Commander loss said now they don't have to worry about going undefeated. That comment came from Wade coddling those guys and them listening.

I have come to expect this sort of thing from Jerry. He did his work in the offseason and I thought he did a good job. He gave everyone of us hope for this season. He finished his job and handed things to Wade, and just like the team he coaches. HE CHOKED!!!
 

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Hostile;2551415 said:
I'm sure it will not matter, but the Seahawks weren't exactly a great blocking team this year.

BTW...I wanted Mike Solari here over Houck.


Indeed. I'm dreaming of those Kansas City Chief lines. Dallas needs to draft some quality linemen, and the coaches need to start holding the offensive line accountable for the pre-snap penalties. If you false start, your going to the bench. If you play sloppy, your sitting down. If you forget the snap count, your sitting down. If you play like Cory Proctor, your gone. There must be consequences for this offense. Getting Owens out of the lockerroom will allow Romo to assert his leadership on the field. It will take heat off the offensive coordinator (Garrett), too. Snap counts aside, I think Andre Gurode is a great player. Dallas needs to run that ball. It takes the heat off everyone, including Romo and the offensive line.
 

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big dog cowboy;2551501 said:
Does this mean Wade overcompensates next year and lets Stewart run the D while he helps Garrett with the O?

Oh man..........

No. Phillips wanted Pagano or Cotrell to start with. He made a mistake when he turned things over to Stewart this year. Stewart just doesn't have the experience to do that job, yet. After the Rams game, the defense played much better. Phillips needs his offensive coordinator to come through, or he will end up like Mike Shannahan. The defense killed him. That is why I'm against firing Phillips after 2 years.

The defense was the strength of the team. The offense and special teams killed Dallas this year. DeMarcus Ware had 20 sacks, and in my opinion, Ware is the best player in the NFL. Ware, Newman, Ratliff, Bradie James, Burnett and our front 3 played lights this year, and they played dominant when Newman came back from the surgery. The addition of Scandrick allowed Newman to shadow those guys, and Phillips was smart enough to sick that man coverage on teams, with Terence Newman leading the charge.

Phillips is in a tough spot with Garrett. I see the big picture of the situation. Jason Garrett has to grow up fast. The Cowboys are built to win now. Giving Garrett some help could help Garrett grow. He has to be open to it, though.

Stewart, like Garrett, lacked experience. If Garrett doesn't get a head coach position, I hope he can see his mistakes. Throwing $ 3 million at Garrett and giving him total control put a lot of responsibilty on Garrett's shoulders. He only had one year's experience, and Sparano was there for him to lean on. Losing Sporano definately hurt Garrett, imo.

Ware and Newman are my two favorite players. When Parcells and Jerry Jones put the personnel on this defense together, I've been waiting to see what we saw when Newman came back. From that point on, that defense was bringing major heat and playing man coverage. Newman shadowing receivers. I love it. The Tampa Bay game was great, too.

I just don't want to lose that. I'm a defensive fan. I love great defense, and you have to play it in this division. Jimmy Johnson and Tom Landry were defensive coaches. I'm not saying Phillips is them, but that dude knows this 34 defense, and he has the ultimate player for it, DeMarcus Ware. Phillips knows what he's doing.

Dave Campo deserves a lot of credit, especially with the constantly changing secondary. He was the Cowboys best assistant this year. Jerry won there for sure.
 

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dcfanatic;2551503 said:
I believe a not so wise man once said that the blame starts with him.


DC Fanatic,

We just think differently about certain things for sure. You want Phillips gone. That is your right. I question how much power Phillips really had over Jason Garrett and his offense.
 

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Rampage;2551510 said:
everybody wants to put the blame on one thing and one thing only. but that's not the case here. we have a ton of problems from the owner to coaching to the players.

Yeah, when this roster is 9-7, things need to change for sure. If Tony Romo doesn't get the changes he needs on offense, he is going to be the guy that suffers the most. If he sinks, the franchise sinks with him. The offense must provide structure, discipline, and accountablility. Getting rid of Owens is the first place to start. Romo must be the sole leader of that unit. Owens undercuts his leadership at the knees. The damage has been done. Owens needs to go. The Old Man (Bill Parcells) wasn't stupid. I was wrong. Things go bad, and he points fingers at the quarterback and coordinator on television. Owens has no accountability for his mouth and his eratic behavior. He's a coach killer, imo. Get him the heck away from Tony Romo. Dallas doesn't need him.

Does Larry Fitzgerald or Reggie Wayne do press conferences after every game?
 

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Sadly, there is plenty of blame to go around.

You really can't point to any single person and put all of the blame on him.

There are several layers to the problem ... which makes it all the tougher to fix.
 

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D1G;2552218 said:
It is mostly Wades fault. He is an enabler. Go back to the playoff loss to the Giants, he sat there in the post game press conf. and said "the best team didn't win." That team went 13-3 last year. They all, including Wade had a sense of entitlement to this season. They thought they deserved to be in the playoffs before they ever stepped on the field.

Wade said something about a superbowl ring before training camp, Brady James after the Commander loss said now they don't have to worry about going undefeated. That comment came from Wade coddling those guys and them listening.

I have come to expect this sort of thing from Jerry. He did his work in the offseason and I thought he did a good job. He gave everyone of us hope for this season. He finished his job and handed things to Wade, and just like the team he coaches. HE CHOKED!!!


I agree with you in regards to the over confidence this year. However, the Rams knocked that out of them, and I hope all players and coaches that felt that way, learned their lesson. You wouldn't think they would have needed it after a really bad playoff loss. I think Phillips and Garrett, both, showed some over confidence this year. I think the Cowboys overlooked Washington the first time around for sure. I didn't look like we took them serious to be honest with you. That is a head scratcher for sure.

Phillips, certainly, could have chosen his words better after that playoff loss. I think some of the players were over confident going into that playoff game for sure. Dallas had no business losing that game. They gave it away for sure.
 

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41gy#;2552389 said:
Yeah, when this roster is 9-7, things need to change for sure. If Tony Romo doesn't get the changes he needs on offense, he is going to be the guy that suffers the most. If he sinks, the franchise sinks with him. The offense must provide structure, discipline, and accountablility. Getting rid of Owens is the first place to start. Romo must be the sole leader of that unit. Owens undercuts his leadership at the knees. The damage has been done. Owens needs to go. The Old Man (Bill Parcells) wasn't stupid. I was wrong. Things go bad, and he points fingers at the quarterback and coordinator on television. Owens has no accountability for his mouth and his eratic behavior. He's a coach killer, imo. Get him the heck away from Tony Romo. Dallas doesn't need him.

Does Larry Fitzgerald or Reggie Wayne do press conferences after every game?
I agree but Owens will be back next season. but a better qb coach and playcaller would do wonders for Tony.
 
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