Is it foolish to even consider RB in round 1?

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Gurley will be long gone. Gordon is the one we have a chance at. He's a special runner. I'd take him and then a guy like Trey Flowers DE in the second.
 

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I really couldn't disagree more with that last line. We are rebuilding the defense now. The OL is set. People talk like once Romo and JWit are gone we are going back to those 5-11 seasons again. I don't think that is the Cowboys plans for the future.

The #1 reason I'm against going RB at 27 is that player won't likely get a 2nd contract. Draft a building block player we can keep for 10-12 years.

No one knows if any player will get a 2nd contract, but this is a win now team and im going with the player that can make the greatest impact from day 1. If a top RB is there and theyre the best impact player you take them. By the time our 2nd round pick rolls around the available options will be limited
 

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Technically, you could get seven years out of a first-round RB without offering a second contract.

Last year the 27th pick got 7.8m

This year should be about 8m, add a 5th year option for 5m and that would be 5yr/13m, not too bad

If they transition tag that would be another 9m, to do it again would be 120% of that or 10.8m

Grand total of 7/33m

It might be a little better to offer an extension after 3 years for 3/21m, if the player is performing

That would be 7/29m
 

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I think its foolish. We've sat here all year long and talked about how we don't need Demarco because our offensive line is good. Okay, so why use that 1st rounder on a running back? It makes no sense. There's this infatuation for Gordon or Gurley but if you were willing to let Demarco go in free agency because he was a product of this offensive line than you should be willing to invest in a running back in later rounds like the 3rd or 4th round.
 

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Gurley will be long gone. Gordon is the one we have a chance at. He's a special runner. I'd take him and then a guy like Trey Flowers DE in the second.

Not sure he will be long gone with some questions around the injury, but early 20s is realistically possible. Ingram would also be a strong choice for the Cowboys if he was the best available player.
 

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I think its foolish. We've sat here all year long and talked about how we don't need Demarco because our offensive line is good. Okay, so why use that 1st rounder on a running back? It makes no sense. There's this infatuation for Gordon or Gurley but if you were willing to let Demarco go in free agency because he was a product of this offensive line than you should be willing to invest in a running back in later rounds like the 3rd or 4th round.

Jerry said the biggest reason they could commit to Murray with a big contract was because of the probability of injury.
 

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Jerry said the biggest reason they could commit to Murray with a big contract was because of the probability of injury.

I don't believe that. Because they gave him the most touches in the league this year and he didn't get hurt. Why is Jason Garrett having meetings with Demarco this offseason about coming back? I just don't buy it.

I'm not even against what they did. If its because they value their offensive line over their running back? I'd understand that and I agree with it.

I honestly feel they do believe they can plug anyone back there and have them succeed to be honest and that is why I don't expect a running back out of that 1st round. I can see it in the 3rd or 4th round.
 

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Can you find a good RB in later rounds? Yes. Can you find a good RB that can also protect Romo from getting broken in half in year 1? Maybe not.
 

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Can you find a good RB in later rounds? Yes. Can you find a good RB that can also protect Romo from getting broken in half in year 1? Maybe not.

McFadden is even better in Pass Protection than Murray. They have time to develop a rookie RB.
 

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I don't believe that. Because they gave him the most touches in the league this year and he didn't get hurt. Why is Jason Garrett having meetings with Demarco this offseason about coming back? I just don't buy it.

I'm not even against what they did. If its because they value their offensive line over their running back? I'd understand that and I agree with it.

I honestly feel they do believe they can plug anyone back there and have them succeed to be honest and that is why I don't expect a running back out of that 1st round. I can see it in the 3rd or 4th round.

The big number of touches just added to the probability that he would decline. The vast majority of RBs with such a heavy workload have declined in following seasons. Combine that with the fact that 2014 was the only season where he played all of the games and the probability of injury/decline is high.
 

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I think you take a rb in the 2nd.. behind our o-line just about any back will be productive plus every draft doesn't have a Lynch or Peterson. Our defense is getting better with Hardy but too be a contender we need to spend our first rounder on defensive BPA.
 

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If you can get a top notch back with that first, then yeah. Our offense is predicated on the run. You want a guy that can really take advantage of that O line. You would you really trust a Randle on that critical 3rd down or in an endzone, game-winning situation? Randle was great in those limited opportunities he got, but he will look completely different if he was getting the kind of workload Murray was getting.
 

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Dupree
Brown
Gurley
Peat
Flowers
Collins
Johnson
Gordan

Off the cuff 1st round short board. If Waynes somehow makes it there you pounce him and don't look back.
 

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The big number of touches just added to the probability that he would decline. The vast majority of RBs with such a heavy workload have declined in following seasons. Combine that with the fact that 2014 was the only season where he played all of the games and the probability of injury/decline is high.

IMO, there are other reasons why those other running backs felt. IMO, none of those guys played on a offense as prolific as this one. And none of them played with a offensive line like this one.

But even if that's true. If they thought his injury chances would increase with more carriers than why give him so many carries?
 

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IMO, there are other reasons why those other running backs felt. IMO, none of those guys played on a offense as prolific as this one. And none of them played with a offensive line like this one.

But even if that's true. If they thought his injury chances would increase with more carriers than why give him so many carries?

It seem to be the Garrett method to let veteran team leaders play as much as possible. Witten plays 100% of the snaps in most games even when they are up significantly on the scoreboard. All of them played deep into the final game of the season which was a meaningless blowout win.

Playing time is a Garrett decision, whereas, re-signing players is Stephen Jones and Will McClay.
 
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You only draft an RB in the first if he's very special,,, and that's late first. RBBC is tbe strategy these days and if your team has as many holes as the Cowboys then there's even less chance they pick RB in the first. The Patriots can toy with the idea but not the Cowboys, we need defensive help immediately.
 

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With Randle, Williams and McFadden on the roster there isn't an urgent need for a first round RB this year unless you believe the first round RB is a special, once in a decade talent...
otherwise your line of thinking is spot on...

If we pick a RB in the first round then we are back in the Jerry making picks again (remember Mo). I made a prediction base on last years round one pick that showed the scouts where making the cal and I believe they do again this year.
1st Rd: DT
2nd Rd: DL
3 th Rd: RB or LB or CB
4th Rd: S or RT or DL
 

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My personal choice in order of preferences:

1. CB...only if one of the top 3 is available.
2. LB...only if one of the top 2 real LBs are there....not a pass rushing 3-4 OLB.
3. DT...only if one of the top 2, not a run stuffer who can't pressure the QB
4. RB...RB only if Gurley (healthy) or Gordon
5. FS...only a ball hawk

It all depends on who's available.
 
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