Is it Me? Or Was the Offensive Line Kinda Backwards Last Season?

its your opinion he was the best guard; I disagree
and no Hoffman was not as good. Nor does he have the physical talent of Beebe

Center needs to be a position like we had with Gurode and TFred; a mauler and brawler who can stone rushers and pound on the ground game.
Hoffman simply is not that
Its my opinion but many shared this line of thought as well. If he was the best guard in college or at least , the top 5 rated, what makes anyone think he can be a top 5 center ? To be clear, I hope he is. Love his tenacity. I think the new staff will settle this in camp and preseason. Let the competition play out.
 
Hoffman is that bad? I haven't heard that . Hmmm. Solari loved the guy. This staff seems to as well. Let's see
actually he wasn't I can tell you this it was an open competition don't even get twisted if you don't wanna blame it on solari or the coaching staff know that they did this they saw BB as a better option for the future at center than they saw Hoffman it may have been only a slight edge Hoffman still gonna be the backup center hoffman's a very good guard he doesn't have to be great he doesn't need to be Martin he just needs to be healthy and know what he's doing.. As far as I can tell that is what happened and some of y'all think just sliding things around is going to fix the offensive line and it's not whoever you replace Tyler Smith with like bass the defense knows this and the defense will test him all game long they just won't go at or around Tyler Smith if they can help it the same way with BB if you think you're sliding him over and hoffman's almost as good what's the difference they're playing right next to each other I saw nothing at AB that says he should have moved and that he should be a guard.... You need your better player at center in my opinion he's snapping the ball and then he's gotta get up and block he's gotta also in many offenses they're the play caller for the line adjustments they're calling out what they see on defense you gotta have your better player in that position and apparently the coaches thought that was BB...

Like I said you want to flip flop Hoffman and BB what good is that going to do literally what good is it going to do they're both still going to be on the line starting and if one of them is a little weaker the defense will smell it they will game plan it and they will come right over the top of that A or B gap whoever they thinks not having a good game...

That's what they were doing with Martin and Steele and they were ripping that side apart and then they would flip flop they saw guyton having a bad game and they would go over him the middle of the line wasn't bad last year and it wasn't until the changes with the injuries and you ended up having Hoffman at guard instead of Martin the line all of a sudden started blocking, at least better especially in a run game.

Yes it's a work in progress to try to get the best 5 on the field but all these scenarios I'm reading is not gonna change the line if they're all still on the line in my opinion is not that broken and hopefully they do get it worked out in preseason you know coming out of camp they'll have what they believe is the best five and they'll be rotating other guys in and out and we'll see with our own eyes what it looks like because the competition is probably gonna be a little less so they should be looking really good...
 
Besides, the Jones boys probably want him to stay at LG until after his extension or new contract is signed.

If I am his agent, I would put automatic payscale adjustments in Smith's contract just in case they move him LT
can we stop spreading false narratives,

Jerry's never been cheap when it comes to his own players..

if they were drafted or brought in here as rookies and they excel, they get paid, they get paid well...

actually they get overpaid in most cases, this whole thing about being cheap is his lack of aggression and free agency and making big trades, that's it that's where this whole money thing comes from..

Jerry is not afraid to spend the money on his own players it's a fact they're all almost making market money we've got a top 5 paid player at corner at right tackle wide receiver quarterback and before that we had one of the top paid running backs one of the top paid left tackles he even overpaid Jalen Smith and shouldn't have you think that he's worried about a couple of $1,000,000 more between the guard and left tackle no if you're that good you're going to get paid as good as a tackle doesn't matter if you're a guard nowadays if you're a top offensive lineman you will get paid like a top offensive lineman Jerry's not sitting there going well we're going to move him after his contract's up it's the most ridiculous there it is I hear you think he sits around thinking about oh I better hold this player down pay him a few million less and then we'll make the switch later..

That's not even close to the truth there is no truth to it at all that's all rumor it's all false narrative it's things that people like to spread around Jerry Jones because they hate everything about Jerry Jones so they just make stuff up as if it's gonna be sold to everyone is the truth and it's not those of us who pay attention to the Cowboys know Jerry will pay all his players well he redid Martin's contract when he knew he shouldn't have he should not have gave him that bonus money and converted it all to guarantee money because he knew it and guess what Martin stole that money and retired he never earned it but Jerry paid him...​
That happened at the end of Emmett Smith's career , Emmett should have never got that third contract he got it because it was a legends contract, or we call a legacy contract, he didn't earn it he shouldn't have got it he should have been cut...​
I mean, do I need to go on because even tank got paid and overpaid at one point, they restructured his contract and still paid him about $11 million a year those last two years here he pays his players that's a fact.​
Tell me a homegrown player that came here as a rookie whether it was undrafted or drafted that was a superstar or one of the top players on the team and didn't get paid because you're not going to find one....​
 
You need to play players where they most benefit the team. If he's also your best T, you put him there because there are a lot more options who can play G than there are T.

Good teams use their strengths to cover up weaknesses.
Preach it bro. A couple of experts here are missing this point. I guess all we can do now is let Riley put the best player in the best position to achieve team success.

Hopefully he's better than Solari.
 
I agree with the original post. I also think Beebe would be a better G than C and Hoffman is a natural center.

To me the best lineup would be LT Tyler Smith, LG T.J. Bass/Rob Jones, C Brock Hoffman, RG Cooper Beebe, and RT Tyler Guyton. Terence Steele can take a pay cut to be the swing tackle or be cut or traded.
 
Makes sense. But now, heck, let's just stick him at rg then. He can play there the next 10 years. Hoffman can be the center or we can draft a guy.
because honestly it is 6 in one hand half dozen in another. On the interior line you can get away with 2 serviceable to good lineman honestly Beebe I think is the smarter player so I would keep him at center to make the line calls. It is very rare for temas to have 2 good gauds and a good center. It is 2 good guards 1 ok center or good guard good center and ok other guard.
 
I don't know. Maybe the Cowboys know something I don't know....

But last year, they had their best LT, who also happens to be the best LG, playing LG. Meanwhile, the player that struggles the most ends up at LT, where his best position happens to be RT.

So what gives? Even when Dak went down, there were no changes in the offensive line where one could argue a player swap may have benefited an offense with a limited Cooper Rush. Or is it that he also likes the best protection from the LG position? Even if so, do these guys know what is best for them and the team?

I get it. They were experimenting out there. But the line could have been better if we had played our players to their strengths relative to doing so having a higher impact on the overall team.

Just my two cents
The O-Line appeared to play better once Prescott was out of the picture..................
 
I agree with the original post. I also think Beebe would be a better G than C and Hoffman is a natural center.

To me the best lineup would be LT Tyler Smith, LG T.J. Bass/Rob Jones, C Brock Hoffman, RG Cooper Beebe, and RT Tyler Guyton. Terence Steele can take a pay cut to be the swing tackle or be cut or traded.
I share your exact opinion on the starting L to R lineup.

But I will let Riley sort it out with hopes that he is better than Solari on both positional assignments and scheme.

Fingers crossed.
 
I share your exact opinion on the starting L to R lineup.

But I will let Riley sort it out with hopes that he is better than Solari on both positional assignments and scheme.

Fingers crossed.
Same. JMO, though.
 
You need to play players where they most benefit the team. If he's also your best T, you put him there because there are a lot more options who can play G than there are T.

Good teams use their strengths to cover up weaknesses.
Then why did Larry Allen and Zack Martin play Guard?

Either could have been great at Tackle for years but they were dominant at guard.
 
I agree with the original post. I also think Beebe would be a better G than C and Hoffman is a natural center.

To me the best lineup would be LT Tyler Smith, LG T.J. Bass/Rob Jones, C Brock Hoffman, RG Cooper Beebe, and RT Tyler Guyton. Terence Steele can take a pay cut to be the swing tackle or be cut or traded.
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I agree with the original post. I also think Beebe would be a better G than C and Hoffman is a natural center.

To me the best lineup would be LT Tyler Smith, LG T.J. Bass/Rob Jones, C Brock Hoffman, RG Cooper Beebe, and RT Tyler Guyton. Terence Steele can take a pay cut to be the swing tackle or be cut or traded.
Common sense isn't so common I guess . I see it the same and in time, I bet the Oline coach will.
 
I don't know. Maybe the Cowboys know something I don't know....

But last year, they had their best LT, who also happens to be the best LG, playing LG. Meanwhile, the player that struggles the most ends up at LT, where his best position happens to be RT.

So what gives? Even when Dak went down, there were no changes in the offensive line where one could argue a player swap may have benefited an offense with a limited Cooper Rush. Or is it that he also likes the best protection from the LG position? Even if so, do these guys know what is best for them and the team?

I get it. They were experimenting out there. But the line could have been better if we had played our players to their strengths relative to doing so having a higher impact on the overall team.

Just my two cents
Easy. The guard is a really good guard but avg tackle. The RT can’t play LT so they planned on Odoga being LT but he was injured
 
Hoffman is that bad? I haven't heard that . Hmmm. Solari loved the guy. This staff seems to as well. Let's see
Typical; I did not say Hoffman was bad just not that good; or as physically talented as Beebe
Solari was not all that
 

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