Is it out of the question that Escobar turns into a poor man's Gronk?

Nightman

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I agree.

But the think tank wasn't in place then.

Same thing about Bennett and Fascano before him.

So my point is just use the pick and at somepoint it all amounts to something for us.

Witten has been great but only another year or two for him..

same with Romo.

It is just funny that we have thrown 3 #2 at replacing and/or supplementing Witten who just keeps plugging along.
 

burmafrd

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It is just funny that we have thrown 3 #2 at replacing and/or supplementing Witten who just keeps plugging along.

I think Fasano was really more of an effort to go to the 2 TE game; Bennett was more clearly someone they wanted to groom to replace Witten but it became clear we had an iron man and of course Bennett is a few cards short of 52
 

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From 2003 to 2014, Dallas Cowboys vs. any team, in the regular season, play type is pass, play started in red zone, play featured Jason Witten[X]
http://tinyurl.com/qdr7y52
138 plays, 41 TDs, 53 1st Downs, 9 Interceptions, 1 fumble, Avg Yds gained 4.01

Rob Gronkowski
From 2010 to 2014, New England Patriots vs. any team, in the regular season, play type is pass, play started in red zone, play featured Rob Gronkowski[X]
http://tinyurl.com/p8mbk5m
84 plays, 41 TDs, 47 1st Downs, 3 INTs, 1 fumble, Avg Yds gained 6.42

Note 1st downs stat includes TDs

Other Misc stats (not Red Zone)
Targets per game Witten 7.0 Gronkowski 7.1
Receptions per game Witten 4.9 Gronkowski 4.7
Yds per Reception Witten 11.1 Gronkowski 14.3
Avg YAC Witten 4.0 Gronkowski 6.1

Witten has about 3 times as many games played so it's clear that the Cowboys don't go to him in the end zone as much as the Patriots go to Gronkowski. OTOH he hasn't been as effective in the red zone when they did, even though teams concentrate on Gronkowski more. (well, teams other than the Steelers do anyway)

11.5 RZ catches per year huh
 

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I think Fasano was really more of an effort to go to the 2 TE game; Bennett was more clearly someone they wanted to groom to replace Witten but it became clear we had an iron man and of course Bennett is a few cards short of 52

Written had just turned 26 when we drafted Bennett.

I think they were still trying to find a second TE for a two TE offense.
 

JIGGYFLY

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Never said you did just pointing it out. Their size is similar but Gronk is a much more physical player. To judge Escobar fairly we need to see more of him in the passing game he hasn't had enough of an opportunity to really know what his potential might be. I wasn't happy with his selection on draft day but it had nothing to do with him as a player it was the position the Cowboys picked that pissed me off.

We are in agreement.
 

DandyDon52

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I think a lot of what makes gronk good is the coaching and play design, and he is the starter.
Here witten is the starter, and I dont think dallas really knows how to use escobar.
But with witten here hard to expect much from escobar.
NE is more innovative in how they utilize the TE's
 
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