Is it possible our new position coaches are out of their depth?

wilfred

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Garrett would love for the fan base to blame position coaches. He can use this group of coaches to fire, to buy himself another year, just like the end of last season. So no it’s not the position coaches it’s the Head coach and offensive coordinator.
 

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Garrett would love for the fan base to blame position coaches. He can use this group of coaches to fire, to buy himself another year, just like the end of last season. So no it’s not the position coaches it’s the Head coach and offensive coordinator.

No,I think Garrett has already been give us assurances that he will be around another year. Otherwise, why would all of these position coaches take jobs with the risk of only doing here one year? I think Garrett had to go to them and guarantee them that they would be here at least two years because he had promised the same.
 

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...that our new QB coach (Kellen Moore), our new WR coach (Sanjay Lal) and our new TE coach (Doug Nussmeier) are all out of their depth?

From Dak to Gallup to Swaim, I don’t see anyone stepping up their games.

Could it be the coaching?
The position coaches could be changed out weekly and it would make no difference.....people seem to want to jump on Moore so quickly but were perfectly content with Wade Wilson who stayed out of the limelight for years and produced absolutely nothing.....we have Garrett playing HC that has not improved since the first day he stepped on a football field, then of course we have our beloved HOF GM that bought his position without earning it.

Our FO should be referred to as "dysfunction junction".
 

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when teams win they have GREAT coaching/./........ when they lose, they have crappy coaching????

So did Jimmy Johnson suck his first year, and then gradually start figuring it out?

Have the Pats coaching started going downhill? after all, they have the great Tom Brady and are sitting at 1-2

Did Zimmer forget how to coach this weekend?

Hey, in the NBA, Luke Walton was amazing with the Warriors..... did he hit his head on the way down to LA and forget how to coach???

Last year the Niners were horrible, and Jimmy G showed up and they won 5 in a row.... did Shanahan all of the sudden figure it out?

And the greatest example in the history of showing you how much coaching is NOT the deciding factor.... did the Browns coaches eat some spinach at halftime of their game Thursday night? Because they coached like dog crap in the first half, and coached like Vince Lombardi in the 2nd half.

It is not that complicated.

This is a long post to say we need a new QB. :laugh:
 

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...that our new QB coach (Kellen Moore), our new WR coach (Sanjay Lal) and our new TE coach (Doug Nussmeier) are all out of their depth?

From Dak to Gallup to Swaim, I don’t see anyone stepping up their games.

Could it be the coaching?
:hammer:
A player's performance always goes back on how he was coached. There's no way of getting around that one.
 

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Garrett has no connections like other coaches who have worked under someone.


Leaguewide coaches know this and thats why we get retreads.
 

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what's moore suppose to do when the qb's best talent is running not throwing? maybe that's why the wr and te aren't doing good.. naw it's the coaches. :facepalm:
 

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...that our new QB coach (Kellen Moore), our new WR coach (Sanjay Lal) and our new TE coach (Doug Nussmeier) are all out of their depth?

From Dak to Gallup to Swaim, I don’t see anyone stepping up their games.

Could it be the coaching?


Could be but when they are open the the quarterback won't get them the ball.
 

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what's moore suppose to do when the qb's best talent is running not throwing? maybe that's why the wr and te aren't doing good.. naw it's the coaches. :facepalm:
Who exactly anointed rookie coach Kellen Moore as the “QB Whisperer”, anyway?
:facepalm:
 

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...that our new QB coach (Kellen Moore), our new WR coach (Sanjay Lal) and our new TE coach (Doug Nussmeier) are all out of their depth?

From Dak to Gallup to Swaim, I don’t see anyone stepping up their games.

Could it be the coaching?

What's the excuse for the second half of last season? Those guys weren't around, but Witten and Dez were - 12 points or less in five of the eight games.

Now we have different position coaches, different tight ends, different receivers, and the same results...so let's blame the new guys!
 

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when teams win they have GREAT coaching/./........ when they lose, they have crappy coaching????

So did Jimmy Johnson suck his first year, and then gradually start figuring it out?

Have the Pats coaching started going downhill? after all, they have the great Tom Brady and are sitting at 1-2

Did Zimmer forget how to coach this weekend?

Hey, in the NBA, Luke Walton was amazing with the Warriors..... did he hit his head on the way down to LA and forget how to coach???

Last year the Niners were horrible, and Jimmy G showed up and they won 5 in a row.... did Shanahan all of the sudden figure it out?

And the greatest example in the history of showing you how much coaching is NOT the deciding factor.... did the Browns coaches eat some spinach at halftime of their game Thursday night? Because they coached like dog crap in the first half, and coached like Vince Lombardi in the 2nd half.

It is not that complicated.
Belicheck has managed to win with every backup QB he's had even Matt Cassel. Coach Pop has continued to make the playoffs and win games with players long past their primes and cast offs from other teams. Pederson managed to coach up Foles and beat Beli and Brady to win a Superbowl. The Golden State Warriors were merely contenders under Jackson and not champions before Kerr came along. Goff and Gurley were beginning to be labelled busts before McVay.

Coaching matters. Great coaching will make players better. Garrett has only made the playoffs 2 times, despite having teams talented enough to make the post season. His teams have largely underachieved, even when he was an OC.

A rookie QB beating another rookie QB is not the greatest example of coaching not being a factor especially when the team that won was a 3 point favorite to win to begin with.
 

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Who exactly anointed rookie coach Kellen Moore as the “QB Whisperer”, anyway?
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what's moore suppose to do with a guy who can't throw and panic's with pressure. oh yeah tell him to run faster, because he can't read the defense or throw.. it's the coaches. :facepalm:
 

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There was great reviews of Sanjay coming outta camp. What happened. Is he good? Are the receivers running crisp routes? Or is there something else going on.







 

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Belicheck has managed to win with every backup QB he's had even Matt Cassel. Coach Pop has continued to make the playoffs and win games with players long past their primes and cast offs from other teams. Pederson managed to coach up Foles and beat Beli and Brady to win a Superbowl. The Golden State Warriors were merely contenders under Jackson and not champions before Kerr came along. Goff and Gurley were beginning to be labelled busts before McVay.

Coaching matters. Great coaching will make players better. Garrett has only made the playoffs 2 times, despite having teams talented enough to make the post season. His teams have largely underachieved, even when he was an OC.

A rookie QB beating another rookie QB is not the greatest example of coaching not being a factor especially when the team that won was a 3 point favorite to win to begin with.

Pats did not make the playoffs the year Brady was out.
Pop in San Antonio ain’t jack now. They have zero chance at doing anything now. If the last twenty years the spurs are what they are now, pop would have been fired fifteen years ago. Pop had two of the greatest big men to ever play the game during his run....... that run is now over, and the spurs are nothing, even though they have the amazing pop still running things.
Kerr, like Phil Jackson took over teams that were just coming into their prime. You think the warriors should have won titles i the first two years of Thompson and stephs career?puhlease
Busts in Los Angeles... what had Goff played, 1 year? And yet the bust label was on him? Lol....
Name me 15 qbs that you feel are great, and wow, they will all have a “great coach.”

I can name you multiple coaches that were “great,” until their superstar qb was gone.
George seifert had the best win percentage in history, then must have hit his head upon arriving in Carolina and forgot how to coach.
Switzer was phenomenal, after all, he won the sb in his very first year in the nfl.
 

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...that our new QB coach (Kellen Moore), our new WR coach (Sanjay Lal) and our new TE coach (Doug Nussmeier) are all out of their depth?

From Dak to Gallup to Swaim, I don’t see anyone stepping up their games.

Could it be the coaching?
reasonable question
 
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