Is Jeanty a generational RB ?

[Kingofholland]

I wouldn't trade up to get him, but if he's there at 12 it makes for an interesting decision. We could be at a critical point where teams start prioritizing RBs more and I think realistically the Jaguars, Raiders, Panthers, and Saints could all be possible landing spots.

If Jeanty is a generational talent, it would be hard to pass him up if he were there at 12. But it also depends on who else is there. Other than Jeanty, I think the only true value at 12 would be oline or dline based on player projections.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Same. Generational is Barry Sanders. I don't see it with Jeanty.

Maybe he's a Derrick Henry though. Just a rare specimen. Who knows.

If he has 75% of the career Henry has you take him.

 

[TheDank]

He's a worse prospect than Saquon. About on par with Zeke.

Generational production, not measurables though. If he had low 4.3 speed that showed on film he'd be a generational prospect. He's probably a mid to high 4.4's guy so good enough to get it done but not elite breakaway.

 

[quickccc]

Frankly I do not think so. I really do not see his skills as unique. He is CLEARLY the best rb in this draft. I believe he will be at the least a fine back in the NFL.

Ditto here.

I'm not seeing Chris Johnson killer world class speed. And Barkley..even zeke were breaking it big in homerun hits vs the big boys...ala Big Ten & SEC ....whereas I'm seeing Jeanty vs the likes San Jose state, UNLV, Fresno state, San Diego state, etc.

I'm more hearing Jeanty comparisons to Ray Rice, Alvin Kamara....and they are
not " Generational" imo.

I think Jeanty could be a pro bowl caliber back,..just like Kamara and Ray Rice were, and they were not even 1st round draftees.

 

[pansophy]

Eh, you know even if he is I wouldn't draft him for the simple fact that we shouldn't be paying RB top tier money. So yeah you get 5 years of a cheap running back but then you either pay him like we did Zeke or you have to wonder why you spent a 1st round pick on a guy who was only with the team 5 years instead of 10.

 

[beware_d-ware]

I'd say the two best RB prospects of the past 10 years were Zeke and Saquon. Gurley and Leonard Fournette were right there in terms of raw ability, but they both had major injury flags on their profile. For whatever it's worth, Fournette's sophomore season is probably the best RB tape I've seen.

Jeanty to me looks exactly like a Mountain West Bijan. If he added another 10 lbs of weight while losing absolutely no movement, he'd be on that blue chip level. But size and speed matter at RB, and he doesn't have a freakish, blue chip type of gear that those "generational" talents all had. They were all a weight class up from Jeanty, and if anything they were even faster. Saquon, Gurley, and Lombardi Lenny all housed kick returns in college while weighing 230+.

 

[Offsides]

Is he is good as Zeke or Saquon coming into the league? Who was considered the last generational RB?

I don't know he is better than Gibbs or Bijon from a couple drafts ago but who wouldn't want them at RB. It would be tough to reproduce Zeke or Barkley's rookie years. I think he worth the 1st round pick though.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Ditto here.

I'm not seeing Chris Johnson killer world class speed. And Barkley..even zeke were breaking it big in homerun hits vs the big boys...ala Big Ten & SEC ....whereas I'm seeing Jeanty vs the likes San Jose state, UNLV, Fresno state, San Diego state, etc.

I'm more hearing Jeanty comparisons to Ray Rice, Alvin Kamara....and they are
not " Generational" imo.

I think Jeanty could be a pro bowl caliber back,..just like Kamara and Ray Rice were, and they were not even 1st round draftees.

Zeke was not generational.

 

[baltcowboy]

A team like the Raiders if they fail to draft a QB would be ideal landing spot as they lost Walker, Carolina is in need of a top receiver, Patriots also make sense. If he got to the Cowboys, cannot see them passing on him.

A top 10 prospect is falling to 12. CeeDee, Micah, Hamilton, are a few off of the top of my head that have fallen recently. I am hearing the measurements for Mason Graham are not that impressive. Keep in eye out for him to be available at 8. That means anything could happen.

 

[NDGAEDE]

If he has 75% of the career Henry has you take him.

Oh definitely. Henry is an extreme rare type of player though. Bruising, fast, and still fresh after all these years. It's hard to imagine another runner lasting as long as he has.

 

[quickccc]

Zeke was not generational.

Agreed

But i.wouldn't ieven nclude jeanty on zekes level coming out of college and into the NFL draft.

Bijan Robinson of Texas Longhorns was also hyped as Jeanty is currently now, ..but he also wasn't Generational either

 

[tm1119]

Choosing to not test at the combine is an interesting move on his part. Not that it will change a ton, but could have cemented that he belongs in the top 10 instead of leaving questions open

 

[gtb1943]

Eh, you know even if he is I wouldn't draft him for the simple fact that we shouldn't be paying RB top tier money. So yeah you get 5 years of a cheap running back but then you either pay him like we did Zeke or you have to wonder why you spent a 1st round pick on a guy who was only with the team 5 years instead of 10.

IF he is a significant factor in getting a ring or two in those five years then he was well worth it. For RBs, I really would not look for second contracts.

 

[gtb1943]

Choosing to not test at the combine is an interesting move on his part. Not that it will change a ton, but could have cemented that he belongs in the top 10 instead of leaving questions open

I think that is a mistake. Probably his agent convinced him. Pro day is more favorable to the player but the teams know that.

 

[quickccc]

Oh definitely. Henry is an extreme rare type of player though. Bruising, fast, and still fresh after all these years. It's hard to imagine another runner lasting as long as he has.

Despite his pre draft workout numbers and being a physical specimen blend of combination size/speed, Henry dropped into second round because he was seen
as straight line-lish, and there was a skeptical fear of past Alabama RBs (ala Trent Richardson)

Henry in turn proved critics wrong as ge was a much more instinctive and flexible playmaker than the likes of past Bama backs

BTW, speaking of Bama backs, ..has Steelers and former 1st rd draftees Damien Harris done his part to help disperse skeptics of Bama RBs ..?

 

[quickccc]

I think that is a mistake. Probably his agent convinced him. Pro day is more favorable to the player but the teams know that.

I think some of these workout guys trust their preferred location and setting for workouts.
Trusting pro day results more... vs nfl combine testing .
It's not unusual.

 

[Cowboyny]

A top 10 prospect is falling to 12. CeeDee, Micah, Hamilton, are a few off of the top of my head that have fallen recently. I am hearing the measurements for Mason Graham are not that impressive. Keep in eye out for him to be available at 8. That means anything could happen.

Graham has short arms, but his tape is terrific. He still remains my top player for the Cowboys.

 

[GuitarBytes]

That can only be deduced until he plays and grows in the NFL, that he has a huge talent and is expected to be a high impact playmaker. Yes, Dallas needs Ashton, Dallas needs someone who can carry the team when Dak-ancer fails (almost always). And the only other position that can carry the team apart from the QB is the RB. There is no more. They need the best RB, not just an RB.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Agreed

But i.wouldn't ieven nclude jeanty on zekes level coming out of college and into the NFL draft.

Bijan Robinson of Texas Longhorns was also hyped as Jeanty is currently now, ..but he also wasn't Generational either

Zeke was definitely proven against presumably better competition. I think he was overdrafted as a prospect at #4 overall though given that he really was just a power back.

I will say that I think Bijan was a better prospect than Jeanty when he came out.

 

[NDGAEDE]

Despite his pre draft workout numbers and being a physical specimen blend of combination size/speed, Henry dropped into second round because he was seen
as straight line-lish, and there was a skeptical fear of past Alabama RBs (ala Trent Richardson)

Henry in turn proved critics wrong as ge was a much more instinctive and flexible playmaker than the likes of past Bama backs

BTW, speaking of Bama backs, ..has Steelers and former 1st rd draftees Damien Harris done his part to help disperse skeptics of Bama RBs ..?

He's a rare type of player, absolutely.