Is MB3 Overrated?

[SA_Gunslinger]

if he was the primary and only back, i think we would see a drastic decline in how good we think he is.

that said, clearly he fits his current role magnificently.

 

[theogt]

This is probably what they're referring to: LINK

Though his percentage is the lowest among those rated in the link, his total number of conversions on 3rd and short ranked him 3rd in the league.

I would also add that on 3rd and 0-2 he had a 3.4 YPC. If you take out his longest carry (25 yards), he still had a 2.33 YPC. I'm not a math expert by any means, but averaging 2.33 yards when you only need 2 yards seems sufficient.

Here are his numbers for TDs in side the 3 yard line: LINK

In that regard, he's middle of the pack in terms of average, but once again his total number puts him 3rd in the league.

 

[Alexander]

This is probably what they're referring to: LINK

Reading that could lead a very unintelligent person to believe that Brian Westbrook is a better short yardage runner than Barber. Where is Phoenix-Talon?

 

[skinsscalper]

He will score less TDs I predict. And then you will hear some complain he simply was overrated. Which will lead some to question how good he was int that role last year. And that would be incorrect, but that rarely stops people.

I agree Alexander. I also believe that one the reasons his TD numbers go down will be due to the fact that JJ has a few more TD's than last year. It wouldn't surpise me to see JJ put up 10+ TDs this season. Maybe I'm being a homer but, I really think JJ is going to bust out and leave Jones with a difficult decision to make at the end of the year, especially if Cleveland really tanks.

SS

 

[RomoIsBack]

what i dont get jones only play good against seattle or carolina he did good against n.o after that long run did after that he barely got the ball

 

[Yakuza Rich]

He had the benefit of one of the greatest lines in football history. I don't blame him for having at least some faith in that.

Sorry, I didn't see that in Dallas last year. Much less running a pitch play to Barber, who isn't a strong perimeter runner. That was an utterly horrible set of downs and we never quite recovered from that.

My problem was our unwillingness to use a simple play action and then pass it to the TE....something just about every team does quite a bit near the goalline. And considering we have 2 TE's for that role it was quite confusing.



YAKUZA

 

[theogt]

Another interesting stat -- inside our opponent's 10 yard line, he had a 1.9 YPC. Sounds bad right? Well on 31 rushing attempts and 2 catches he scored 15 touches.

Meaning,nearly half of the times he touched the ball inside the opponent's 10 yard line he scored. Compare that with Larry Johnson, who only had 36% of his touches inside the 10 yard line result in touchdowns.

I guess he's kinda like Chris Carter -- all he does is score TDs.

 

[Alexander]

I agree Alexander. I also believe that one the reasons his TD numbers go down will be due to the fact that JJ has a few more TD's than last year. It wouldn't surpise me to see JJ put up 10+ TDs this season. Maybe I'm being a homer but, I really think JJ is going to bust out and leave Jones with a difficult decision to make at the end of the year, especially if Cleveland really tanks.

SS

It shouldn't be a tough decision. I believe Jones will do what he has always done and that is show an alarming tendency for inconsistency.

 

[Alexander]

My problem was our unwillingness to use a simple play action and then pass it to the TE....something just about every team does quite a bit near the goalline. And considering we have 2 TE's for that role it was quite confusing.



YAKUZA

Even John Madden was amazed.

As much as I have seen some complain that Sparano got a bit of the short end of the stick when Garrett was inserted, that last set of downs showed that he lacked creativity.

 

[RomoIsBack]

i hope you right^

 

[percyhoward]

Or Carolina. Tore them a new one as well.

JJ was not used much in the two weeks before that game, or before the Seattle game either. Notice the limited duty in back-to-back games leading up to those two...

2005
12/11 KC 12 for 41
12/18 @WAS 12 for 79
12/24 @CAR 34 for 194

2006
12/25 PHI 10 for 38
12/31 DET 10 for 37
01/06 @SEA 22 for 112


In the second half of his season (past the 8-game mark), JJ has yet to reach 80 yards in a game without that lightened workoad for at least the two previous games.

The best way to use Julius is to keep him at 15 carries or under, so that he might explode in any game.

 

[Alexander]

The best way to use Julius is to keep him at 15 carries or under, so that he might explode in any game.

No, that is wrong.

Go look at his statistics when he carries the ball on carries 25-30. He is a workhorse who really just never gets a chance.

Really, he is.

 

[skinsscalper]

It shouldn't be a tough decision. I believe Jones will do what he has always done and that is show an alarming tendency for inconsistency.

You might be right, we certainly have body of evidence to back up your prediction, but for some reason, I see JJ busting out BIG TIME. I hope I am right (and I almost hope I am wrong), but if recent history is any indicator, Jones will end up a FA and McFadden will be a Cowboy either through a blockbuster deal or straight up, due to phenomenal draft position.

SS

 

[Sarge]

Maybe...just maybe...MBIII and Julius are overrated. I'm not jumping for joy over either.

Having said that, they're both employable.

Get me a difference maker.

 

[dogunwo]

That was the worst set of playcalls I have seen in Dallas since Coslet didn't have a fourth down play.

Wasnt he shut down in short yardage too against Seattle?

 

[percyhoward]

stuffs per carry (min. 100 carries)

1 Ron Dayne Hou .040 ( 6/151 )
2 Marion Barber III Dal .044 ( 6/135 )
3 Ahman Green GB .056 ( 15/266)
4 Steven Jackson StL .061 ( 21/346 )
5 Tatum Bell Den .064 ( 15/233 )
6 Brian Westbrook Phi .067 ( 16/240 )
7 Reuben Drougns Cle .068 ( 15/220 )
8 Warrick Dunn Atl .070 ( 20/286 )
9 Maurice Jones-D Jac .072 ( 12/166 )
10 Michael Vick Atl .073 ( 9/123 )
11 Jamal Lewis Bal .073 ( 23/314 )
12 LaDainian Tomln SD .075 ( 26/348 )
13 Cedric Benson Chi .076 ( 12/157 )
14 Fred Taylor Jac .078 ( 18/231 )
15 Joseph Addai Ind .080 ( 18/226 )


% touchdowns, running inside 10 (min. 20 carries)

1 LaDainian Tomlinson SD 52.4 ( 22/42 )
2 Corey Dillon NE 50.0 ( 11/22 )
3 Marion Barber III Dal 41.9 ( 13/31 )
4 Willie Parker Pit 38.7 ( 12/31 )
5 Rudi Johnson Cin 38.5 ( 10/26 )
6 Mike Bell Den 38.1 ( 8/21 )
7 Larry Johnson KC 35.7 ( 15/42 )
8 Deuce McAllister NO 32.0 ( 8/25 )
9 Travis Henry Ten 30.0 ( 6/20 )

 

[DallasDomination]

MB3 Overrated?

Who ever said that needs to be mammoth slaped like a ugly step child.

 

[JBell]

When you have Kyle Kosier and Marco Rivera as your starting guards, it's no surprise to see the low conversion rate on 3rd and short...

 

[Bleu Star]

Saw this in a mag and couldn't believe it.. said that with one yard to go to either score or convert a first down, MB3 was among the worst in the league. they threw out a stat of him only converting 14 of 26. any stat wizards out there know if this is correct? if so, i am surprised.

I'm drafting MB3 in my fantasy leagues this year. I have a strong feeling he is going to be the Jerome Bettis of the squad. He might not rack up the big yards but he will be punching a load of TDs in.

"It's MB to the right side off of Bigg's *$$. TOUCHDOWNNNNNNNN" - Get familiar.

 

[HopeCowboyFan]

He has much better vision and can make something out of nothing. He also has a knack for sticking it into the endzone.

Julius Jones is useless unleass he has a monster wide open hole to hit. Other than that he runs into blockers, tacklers and is easily neutralized.