Is Passing on DGB Like Passing on Randy Moss Again?

[Leadbelly]

Our visiting with Dorial Green-Beckham surprised me. Admittedly, they might be talking to him for far, far down the road. However, we also brought in Devin Smith, so maybe our interest is legit for a WR that creates match up nightmares. Currently, CBS has him as the 32nd rated player so he's a prospect for 27.

Is the team thinking back to the Randy Moss/Greg Ellis decision and choosing the safe player instead of the unique difference maker?

With a more stable vet team that's all football, maybe they feel we're in a better position to take on a DGB. If DGB gets his stuff together, he’s a once-a-generation player.

Assume Gurley, Gordon, Mal Brown, Kevin Johnson, and Byron Jones are gone. It’s between Odighizuwa, Marcus Peters, Ron Darby, Eli Harold, Eric Kendricks, Ereck Flowers, Tevin Coleman, and Eddie Goldman.

If DGB became Randy Moss and you passed for an above average defensive player, would you rue?

 

[XxTDxX]

We have our Randy Moss already on the team... And taking an off brand version of him doesn't make much sense to me. With that being said.. If the board is wiped out and he is the highest rated player and your plan is to extend Dez and have two big bodied freak of nature WR I am good with that plan. As long as DGB is not replacement for Dez because I don't think he or any WR in this draft will ever be close to Dez's level

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

We have our Randy Moss already on the team... And taking an off brand version of him doesn't make much sense to me. With that being said.. If the board is wiped out and he is the highest rated player and your plan is to extend Dez and have two big bodied freak of nature WR I am good with that plan. As long as DGB is not replacement for Dez because I don't think he or any WR in this draft will ever be close to Dez's level

I agree, we have our Moss. And we should not reach for anyone, BUT say it with me: "we have 3 good years left with Romo, we need players who can help NOW at CB, DL, and RB to make a run."

 

[darthseinfeld]

Assume Gurley, Gordon, Mal Brown, Kevin Johnson, and Byron Jones

Id take him over Brown and Jones

. It’s between Odighizuwa, Marcus Peters, Ron Darby, Eli Harold, Eric Kendricks, Ereck Flowers, Tevin Coleman, and Eddie Goldman.

Id take him over all these guys by a wide margin

 

[darthseinfeld]

Think of it this. If we apply the same logic ( we need X position, not WR) for passing on a DGB to the 2010 draft, we draft Roger Saffold in the first and not Dez Bryant

 

[big dog cowboy]

We recently signed a player with more off the field issues than DGB. So anything is possible.

 

[reddyuta]

We recently signed a player with more off the field issues than DGB. So anything is possible.

totally different cases imo ,DBG has an extensive history of all kinds of trouble.

 

[Leadbelly]

We have our Randy Moss already on the team... And taking an off brand version of him doesn't make much sense to me. With that being said.. If the board is wiped out and he is the highest rated player and your plan is to extend Dez and have two big bodied freak of nature WR I am good with that plan. As long as DGB is not replacement for Dez because I don't think he or any WR in this draft will ever be close to Dez's level

Yeah, not a replacement. Never know what Dez's contract situation will be, but I assume he's getting locked up.

But I would say DGB on a 5 year contract comes up for resigning when Dez is 32 and nearing the end of whatever he signs this year. And with the physical style Dez plays, I don't think he's playing far into his 30s.

 

[darthseinfeld]

DGB is more a vertical WR then Bryant. Bryant more of a dirty yards receiver then DGB

The two fit very well

 

[DFWJC]

Moss was by far the best WR in his class and ended up being a HOF level player.

There's a chance, DGB is not even the 4th or 5th best WR in just this class. That's not to say he isnt very talented,but this class is loaded.

 

[tyke1doe]

If he's the best player available, take him. But his background does concern me.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Moss was by far the best WR in his class and ended up being a HOF level player.

There's a chance, DGB is not even the 4th or 5th best WR in just this class. That's not to say he isnt very talented,but this class is loaded.

He would be neck and neck with Cooper if it wasnt for the character issues. Far better then White IMO

 

[XxTDxX]

Yeah, not a replacement. Never know what Dez's contract situation will be, but I assume he's getting locked up.

But I would say DGB on a 5 year contract comes up for resigning when Dez is 32 and nearing the end of whatever he signs this year. And with the physical style Dez plays, I don't think he's playing far into his 30s.

That is something I could deal with.. Lock up Dez and when Dez is nearing the end of his rope in his early/mid 30's you hope DGB can step into that #1 role

 

[Leadbelly]

I agree, we have our Moss. And we should not reach for anyone, BUT say it with me: "we have 3 good years left with Romo, we need players who can help NOW at CB, DL, and RB to make a run."

That's the question that I've been tossing around if we took DGB. That 2nd round pick basically crystalizes our draft class.

We force ourselves to fill the need at RB and we probably haven't improved our defense enough to challenge for a Super Bowl. We might find a 1tech DT who can maybe start or contribute heavily, but other positions will be more of a long shot.

We pick a defensive player in round 2 and there might not be a RB developed enough late in round 3 or 4 to fill Murray's role. We might be reaching for Mike Davis, Matt Jones or Cameron Artis-Payne -- solid rotation backs but probably not feature guys. Or maybe we need to package rd 3 and 4 to move up earlier for Yeldon or David Johnson.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Another thing to note. DGB would go along way to ensuring whoever our next QB is has an elite OL AND an elite WR.

There is no guarentee Dez will be around for our next QB

 

[darthseinfeld]

That's the question that I've been tossing around if we took DGB. That 2nd round pick basically crystalizes our draft class.

We force ourselves to fill the need at RB and we probably haven't improved our defense enough to challenge for a Super Bowl. We might find a 1tech DT who can maybe start or contribute heavily, but other positions will be more of a long shot.

We pick a defensive player in round 2 and there might not be a RB developed enough late in round 3 or 4 to fill Murray's role. We might be reaching for Mike Davis, Matt Jones or Cameron Artis-Payne -- solid rotation backs but probably not feature guys. Or maybe we need to package rd 3 and 4 to move up earlier for Yeldon or David Johnson.

Frank Clark IMO is as good as any LDE in this draft. And he is potentially a 4th rounder.

You take DGB 1, Yeldon 2, Shaw 3, and Clark 4 you pretty won the internet

 

[Leadbelly]

A couple of example mocks from Fanspeak using the CBS Sports ratings, one that takes a RB in round 2 and one that had more of a defensive focus. You can check the links for what other players were available.

MOCK 1 (CBS Ratings)
http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=tiejet

1/027 - WR-Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
2/060 - RB-Tevin Coleman, Indiana
3/091 - CB-Josh Shaw, USC
4/127 - DE-Lynden Trail, Norfolk St
5/163 - CB-JaCorey Shepherd, Kansas
6/203 - No Pick
7/236 - DT-Darius Philon, Arkansas
7/243 - G-Adam Shead, Oklahoma
7/244 - No Pick



MOCK 2 (CBS Ratings)
http://fanspeak.com/ontheclock/draft.php?d=ghhnib

1/027 - WR-Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
2/060 - CB-Ronald Darby, Florida St
3/091 - DT-Xavier Cooper, Washington St
4/127 - RB-Mike Davis, So Carolina
5/163 - CB-JaCorey Shepherd, Kansas
6/203 - No Pick
7/236 - DT-Darius Philon, Arkansas
7/243 - G-Adam Shead, Oklahoma
7/244 - No Pick

 

[DFWJC]

He would be neck and neck with Cooper if it wasnt for the character issues. Far better then White IMO

Not in the same galaxy as Cooper ...IMO.
I'd put White and Parker ahead of him too...as of today.

Just not remotely as skilled or polished in almost all areas as Cooper. Cooper is a preposterous route runner with great feet who can defeat press or zone.
DGB gets man handled by physical corner (oddly) and is a very sloppy route runner.
He IS an incredible physical specimen though. I guess with that alone, you have to assume upside. Mainly, he's big and fast. But, I mean, I'm a 6' white dude and I have bigger hands and had a higher vertical. Randy Moss he's not.

It's just my take,no big deal

 

[Leadbelly]

Frank Clark IMO is as good as any LDE in this draft. And he is potentially a 4th rounder.

You take DGB 1, Yeldon 2, Shaw 3, and Clark 4 you pretty won the internet

Yes, Clark could be an option. Seems to really be rocketing up the boards. Though adding three guys with domestic raps in one offseason...I don't know if they'd do that. I think picking a DGB in round 1 probably results in picking uber RKGs in rounds 2-5.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Not in the same galaxy as Cooper ...IMO.
I'd put White and Parker ahead of him too...as of today.

Just not remotely as skilled or polished in almost all areas as Cooper. Cooper is a preposterous route runner with great feet who can defeat press or zone.
DGB gets man handled by physical corner (oddly) and is a very sloppy route runner.
He IS anincredible physical specimen though. I guess with that alone, you have to assume upside.

It's just take,no big deal

Im just not a fan of White. He is good, but I think Top 10 is stretching it. I really don't see him going over Cooper.

Cooper is much better right now, but honestly who I would pick ( if DGB didnt have his character issues) would depend on my needs at WR . If I needed a bell cow for a west coast still game, I take Cooper. If i ran a more vertical offense, or had the time to develop a WR and not need 80 catches his rookie year, I take DGB