Is Romo a hall of famer?

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I find it hard to believe Romo didn’t have a better choice than Escobar on that play. With the game on the line look to Witten that’s what Romo usually did. The pass wasn’t very good and neither was the target.
A) this isn't the point at all
B) he had an OL in his lap so he had to get rid of it
C) Esco was open

In Eli's case...everything still applies, the guy just made a miracle catch.
 

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A) this isn't the point at all
B) he had an OL in his lap so he had to get rid of it
C) Esco was open

In Eli's case...everything still applies, the guy just made a miracle catch.

The bottom line it wasn’t one of Romo’s better decisions and the ball got picked. Eli escaping that sack may have been more of a miracle than Tyree’s helmet catch. Had Eli got sacked it would have been 4th and forever with less than a minute to play and the Giants would have been done. We’ve exhausted this discussion I’m done.
 

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Rivers was Romo type talent but over a much much longer career

Romo has NFL rating leader and 4x pro bowl

Rivers has NFL yards, rating, touchdown, and competition leader along with comeback player of the year and 8x pro bowls

Rivers is EASILY HOF and much longer/better career than Romo

Comeback player of the year means nothing in terms of HOF.

Neither do yards - Eli Manning is top 10 in that category.

Breaking team stats are not a factor in HOF, that’s a ring of honor type thing

And no Rivers is not “easily” HOF, you insane?

No ring
No MVP
No all-pro

And LOL at pro-bowl. Tell me, what great QBs has the AFC had the past 15 years?

You had Manning and Brady and Big Ben who had some pro-bowl seasons, but not consistently.

Rivers didn’t have as much competition in the AFC as Romo

“Longevity” isn’t getting Rivers into the HOF. Media bias or a super bowl win will.
 

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Might be a hall of fame as an announcer at some point. I love the guy, but bottom line is about championships. If he would have one one Super Bowl the answer would be yes. PS. He didn't.
 

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The bottom line it wasn’t one of Romo’s better decisions and the ball got picked. Eli escaping that sack may have been more of a miracle than Tyree’s helmet catch. Had Eli got sacked it would have been 4th and forever with less than a minute to play and the Giants would have been done. We’ve exhausted this discussion I’m done.
Done because it's a pointless exhausting discussion.

You're assigning blame to Romo in the loss to Denver b/c of who he chose to throw the football to under pressure. You're giving Eli credit for, effectively, the same decision lol.
 

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Done because it's a pointless exhausting discussion.

You're assigning blame to Romo in the loss to Denver b/c of who he chose to throw the football to under pressure. You're giving Eli credit for, effectively, the same decision lol.

I’m done because it’s a waste of time arguing with someone who really doesn’t understand the game and makes judgments on players based on their hatred for them. Romo didn’t lose that Denver game the defense did but he contributed with an ill-timed turnover. The decision Eli made to go down the field in the SB after avoiding a sack with the clock ticking down wasn’t a poor decision. He pulled that play off and you continue to complain about it. Would you be saying the same thing had that been Romo? Lol
 

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A) this isn't the point at all
B) he had an OL in his lap so he had to get rid of it
C) Esco was open.

How was Escobar open on this play? He had three defenders around him and Romo forced the ball to him. Watch Romo’s delivery it was clearly an impulse throw where he forced it. It was the type of throw that got him in trouble a lot.

 

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I’m done because it’s a waste of time arguing with someone who really doesn’t understand the game and makes judgments on players based on their hatred for them. Romo didn’t lose that Denver game the defense did but he contributed with an ill-timed turnover. The decision Eli made to go down the field in the SB after avoiding a sack with the clock ticking down wasn’t a poor decision. He pulled that play off and you continue to complain about it. Would you be saying the same thing had that been Romo? Lol
I'm not complaining about it. I'm just saying, everyone points to that and says he should go to the HoF. It's a play that Romo, Roethlisberger have made throughout their career.

Your original point about throwing to Esco was that he sucks and was the wrong player to throw to. Tyree sucked too. Same decision.
How was Escobar open on this play? He had three defenders around him and Romo forced the ball to him. Watch Romo’s delivery it was clearly an impulse throw where he forced it. It was the type of throw that got him in trouble a lot.


He's open if that's delivered on time and with zip, both were impossible b/c he had a guard in his lap. It's a hole in the zone. Pause it at 1:14, that's NFL open.
 

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I'm not complaining about it. I'm just saying, everyone points to that and says he should go to the HoF. It's a play that Romo, Roethlisberger have made throughout their career.

Your original point about throwing to Esco was that he sucks and was the wrong player to throw to. Tyree sucked too. Same decision.

He's open if that's delivered on time and with zip, both were impossible b/c he had a guard in his lap. It's a hole in the zone. Pause it at 1:14, that's NFL open.

Romo never made a play in a do or die game like the one Eli made in the Super Bowl. Stop being ridiculous! The throw to Escobar was a poor decision there were three defenders around Escobar when Romo released the ball. If you want to keep wasting time go ahead.
 

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ill ask this with a question:

Is he better than Brady, Brees or Rodgers? If yes then he is, if not then no....you have to be top 2-3 in your era to have consideration and i dont think he was...simple as that.

Great player, but not HOF

So your argument is Ben roethlisberger has no shot at the half of fame? I disagree strongly.
 

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A) this isn't the point at all
B) he had an OL in his lap so he had to get rid of it
C) Esco was open

In Eli's case...everything still applies, the guy just made a miracle catch.
And again, you pick that one play and ignore the brilliance of the drive that turned into a TD and a win at the very end.
 

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Romo never made a play in a do or die game like the one Eli made in the Super Bowl. Stop being ridiculous! The throw to Escobar was a poor decision there were three defenders around Escobar when Romo released the ball. If you want to keep wasting time go ahead.
There were a few late game bad decisions.
 

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So your argument is Ben roethlisberger has no shot at the half of fame? I disagree strongly.

I even think Rivers has a chance, although clearly less than Roethlisberger because of the difference in playoff appearances and success. Rivers yearly production has been very much like Romo's but he has done it longer, and he has stayed healthier, and he is now 8th all time in career passing yardage and 6th all time in career passing TD's, and he has a chance to finish top 5 all time in both categories.
 

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How was Escobar open on this play? He had three defenders around him and Romo forced the ball to him. Watch Romo’s delivery it was clearly an impulse throw where he forced it. It was the type of throw that got him in trouble a lot.


He was pressing on 2nd down because he took a bad sack on 1st down to create the unfavorable down and distance.
 

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Ok fine, then we'll go by fame. Tebow and Kaepernick are about as famous as it gets. A bunch of OL are in who certainly weren't famous. "fame" means nothing.

Nice try taking my statement out of context. Let's go back to what I originally said:

tyke1doe said:
Yes, you can. His Super Bowl rings, and his play leading up to and in the Super Bowl. It's the Hall of FAME not the Hall of Stats.
If you have contributed stats AND have contributed significant moments to the game, especially at the highest level, the voters will select you.

The Hall of Fame considers a player's impact on the game, both stats and fame as far as contributing significant moments to the game, particularly on the largest stage. Tebow doesn't have the stats. Neither does Kaepernick.

All arguments are 100%. Eli is the one who goes against the trend, because he is the one who was a bad player. Those guys were all, easily, in the top-3 of their era. Eli was never even top 10.

You must not understand what I mean by all arguments are not 100 percent. What I mean is not every situation fits every argument. That's where the concept "the exception to the rule" comes from. A rule establishes a particular pattern. But you can generally find exceptions to the pattern.

Second, Eli is in the top 10 in the history of the game in terms of passing yardage. Maybe you weren't paying attention. And he has two Super Bowl rings, making a significant play to upset the 18-0 New England Patriots.

His stats and his fame and his name will get him in the Hall of Fame.

I know. And I'm saying that sportswriters get it wrong time and time again.

And you get it right? It doesn't matter what you think. The process has anointed the sportswriters to select the Hall of Fame inductees, and what they say goes.
 

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His hall of fame talent was intercepted by Jerry Jones mismanagement. He gave him good coaches such as Parcells, Garrett, Wade etc.Still couldnt pull it off or even be in a NFCCG.

Dim hale fellow:laugh:...
So many excuses for the walkon from E. Illinois:muttley:

Now it is Jerry mismagement.
I know for a fact the Jerry did not throw a fusillade of interceptions every December ("Look Daddy, everytime Romo throws a pick, a defensive angel gets his wings"!) and didn't win, as a QB, 2 CAREER first-round playoff games.
Jerry has 3 Super Bowl rings. Romo has a microphone.:muttley:

Hollah, and brings me a dollah!
 
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