Is the Coady signing a way to save a roster spot?

[blindzebra]

It has me wondering, are we planning on keep just 3 safeties and maybe putting Beriault on the PUP with his knee, so we can have more time to sort out RB/FB/TE?

There are players on the bubble like Thompson, Johnson and Ratliff that likely would not stay on the PS, if they clear waivers at all.

Just a thought.

 

[Fletch]

Doubt Beriault gets put on the PUP. If he can play, he will play. But a good question nonetheless.

 

[Ashwynn]

If you go on PUP arn't you out for the year? Thats what I was thinking, not sure though.

 

[Qwickdraw]

If you go on PUP arn't you out for the year? Thats what I was thinking, not sure though.

6 WEEKS.

 

[blindzebra]

If you go on PUP arn't you out for the year? Thats what I was thinking, not sure though.

That is IR, PUP is 6 weeks I believe.

Parcells brought up Beriaults knee again today in his PC.

 

[starfrombirth]

you can't go on the pup if you have participated in training camp as stated in an earlier post. And no pup is not a year long condition. Remember Woody being on the PUP last year and maybe coming back in the middle of the season?

 

[Cbz40]

Pup 6wks is correct.

 

[jobberone]

PUP—physically unable to perform—status is used by clubs to protect a player who is relatively seriously injured but who may recover soon enough to play again that same season. It is similar to major league baseball's 60-day disabled list. Contrast this with injured reserve status, where the player is ineligible for the remainder of the season.

A player who is put on the PUP list before the preseason's first roster cutdown (from 80 to 65 players) must remain inactive through the sixth week of the regular season. At that point, he has a three-week practice "window" before he must either return to the 53-man roster or end his season on injured reserve.

So I read that as he could go on PUP. But I doubt it as that would mean tying up a roster spot for at least 6 weeks. Berryo will probably make the team and be rested enough for the inflammation to subside or he will have to go to the PS IMO.

 

[Verdict]

It has me wondering, are we planning on keep just 3 safeties and maybe putting Beriault on the PUP with his knee, so we can have more time to sort out RB/FB/TE?

There are players on the bubble like Thompson, Johnson and Ratliff that likely would not stay on the PS, if they clear waivers at all.

Just a thought.

You might not be right, but I give you an A+ for thinking outside the box and using some good reasoning. I really hope we keep the right guys. We have worked long and hard to assemble talent, and depth and I do NOT want to see us lose a potential stud due to a glut of players or "need" at another position.

 

[blindzebra]

Roster spots in a competitive camp are like gold, especially when you are changing things on defense and have guestions about depth on your OL.

If stashing a player who's knee needs rest anyway, means not losing a player with potential at another spot, why not?

 

[jksmith269]

you can't go on the pup if you have participated in training camp as stated in an earlier post. And no pup is not a year long condition. Remember Woody being on the PUP last year and maybe coming back in the middle of the season?

I think your wrong. A player has to be assigned to the PUP by the time the team cuts down to 65 players. It has nothing to do with practicing in TC or not.

 

[Rack]

I think your wrong. A player has to be assigned to the PUP by the time the team cuts down to 65 players. It has nothing to do with practicing in TC or not.

I'm pretty sure he's right. I remember reading something about it. Cuz I think to be on pup you'd have to of been injured before TC began or something like that. Pretty sure Beriault can't be put on PUP.

 

[AbeBeta]

Players can't go on the PUP at this point.

He's practiced. He's not eligible.

Trust me here. If you could put someone who got hurt in TC on a 6 week disabled list don't you think every team in the league would be doing this? Why did we IR Mitchell 2 years ago with an injury that was to keep him out 6-8 weeks if we could have PUP'ed him? Why? Because you can't do it.

I don't think the rule cited below is accurate (or it may be out of context). For example, LA was on the PUP before the cutdown but was eligible to come off. If LA was still on the PUP at cutdown time then he'd be inactive for 6 weeks. The rule is there to keep teams from saving roster spots at cutdown.

A player who is put on the PUP list before the preseason's first roster cutdown (from 80 to 65 players) must remain inactive through the sixth week of the regular season. At that point, he has a three-week practice "window" before he must either return to the 53-man roster or end his season on injured reserve.

 

[jobberone]

Roster spots in a competitive camp are like gold, especially when you are changing things on defense and have guestions about depth on your OL.

If stashing a player who's knee needs rest anyway, means not losing a player with potential at another spot, why not?

Well I think like you do, but Parcells seems to go with more certainty. He would rather have less of a player who he knows can go than one who can't with more upside. Just my evolving opinion on how he thinks.

 

[blindzebra]

Found this from two different sources:



NFL rules allow teams to designate players as physically unable to perform, generally due to an injury that existed before camp or was caused by a non-football activity. Once players are designated as such, they are prohibited from practicing with the team. They can, however, rehabilitate and participate in team meetings. If a player begins training camp on the PUP list, he can be moved to the active roster at any time, even after one practice. A player cannot be placed on the PUP list if they start training camp on the active roster.

So nevermind.

On the PUP anyway, I think they may be leaning toward Beriault on PS though. Let's see if they keep talking about his knee and hold him out of a game.

 

[AtlCB]

The Coady signing probably has more to do with the coaching staff being happy with Davis at FS. Coady will be replacing Davis on special teams and has some experience at FS if Davis gets injured.

 

[AbeBeta]

Can't see PS being an option here. Beriault got a ton of exposure on MNF. He won't make it through waivers. Knee or not, he's going to stick. The knee will matter less and less as the season wears on since he's probably not going to be active every game.

I think they may be leaning toward Beriault on PS though. Let's see if they keep talking about his knee and hold him out of a game.

 

[blindzebra]

Can't see PS being an option here. Beriault got a ton of exposure on MNF. He won't make it through waivers. Knee or not, he's going to stick. The knee will matter less and less as the season wears on since he's probably not going to be active every game.

Not saying I'd like to risk it, but was just putting a few pieces together.

Parcells talked about the PS is for little guys, big guys don't last long before someone else picks them up.

He brought up the knee again today.

He brought up the log jam at RB/FB/TE still needing to work itself out.

p.s. the quote thing is easier to follow if you reply after it.

 

[jobberone]

There is a difference between PUP for football injuries and non-football and I am confused over when you can do it as I am finding different "rules". I can't find it on the CPA site but I'm probably just overlooking it.

I don't see it as a viable option for Parcells concerning Berryo even if he could do it.

Better ask Adam.

 

[smashmouth]

Not saying I'd like to risk it, but was just putting a few pieces together.

Parcells talked about the PS is for little guys, big guys don't last long before someone else picks them up.

He brought up the knee again today.

He brought up the log jam at RB/FB/TE still needing to work itself out.

p.s. the quote thing is easier to follow if you reply after it.

If I'm BP, I don't put Beriault on the PS period. I know he was playing against 3rd stringers, but so was everyone else yet he was the one making all the plays.